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Is structure in Cianjur older than pyramids ?


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#1    Saru

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

A man-made structure buried under Mount Padang in Cianjur could be one of the oldest ever found.

The Jakarta Post said:

A recent analysis of carbon-dating by the Miami-based Beta Analytic Lab has apparently validated findings by a government-sanctioned team that a man-made structure, buried under Mount Padang in Cianjur, West Java, is older than the Giza pyramid.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 01:57 PM

Definately an excavation needed

Edited by Welsh Shaun, 06 November 2012 - 01:58 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:14 PM

Hnmm. What are its dimension


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:05 PM

I wonder what technologies they've used to see through the soil.  Perhaps that shotgun attached to a tire that is used to find fossils(?).  This article definetly needs more details.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:09 PM

I just did a search on Beta Analytic's website..two of them to  be exact...no search returns...
That's just suspicious.

If the structure does prove to be real and older than the pyramids, Beta Analytical would have of course posted in predominantly on their website. Instead we get a suspicious newspaper or an online newspaper article only which has been rehashed on numerous fringe sites and blogs.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

What an informative article!  What comprehensive journalism!  It hypes a "structure" beneath a mountain as being important and ancient yet this is all it says about the "structure" itself...

“Found at the site were blocks of stones which are neatly placed three meters beneath the ground."

Fail.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

So then he must think they buried it when this mysterious civilization vanished? This smells like Bosnian Pyramids all over again.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:26 AM

The lack of substance in this article is a mystery.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:03 AM

Add this along side Gobekli Tepe & Dwarka, and the archeologists better get their pens out. They've got lots of 'splainin to do'. This indicates a cataclysm at the end of the ice age pointing to earlier civilizations still. Time to go underground & undersea. 400' might be a good start. :yes:


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:41 PM

This wikipedia explanation seems the best one.   Another site presented a picture of what the temple may have looked like and it resymbols the temple building in Peru.


http://en.wikipedia....Megalithic_Site


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:16 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 06 November 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

So then he must think they buried it when this mysterious civilization vanished? This smells like Bosnian Pyramids all over again.

Actually now that I look at it, this site at least has real ancient ruins associated with it. The Bosnian pyramids only had a Roman/Medieval structure on the top of the hill, which were already well known and understood.


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Carbon-dating test results from the Miami lab show that the structure could date back to 14,000 BC or beyond.

The lab used samples of sand, soil and charcoal found at a depth of between three and 12 meters beneath the mountain’s surface.

Finding charcoal from 12k years ago is not super hard. If the charcoal is co-located with artifacts, that still does not show an ancient structure. It only shows people camped there. Only if man made blocks are found will there be a case for a "Earliest structure". Could very well be that this hill is limestone, or sandstone and what was detected was good, old, honest caves.

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From the absolute age determination based on an analysis of radiometric datingumur Flake sample carbon carbon, sambungnya, under the top layer of the site on to the inner court 3-4meter obtained the maximum age (oldest) 4500 BC, in other words the estimated lifespan of the buildings in the upper layer is around 2800-4500 BC.


In the meantime, the building under the surface of the site allegedly powerful older building because the results of the determination of the age of the sample metricdating radio carbon flakes of carbon contained in the cavity in the sand-drill on the terrace of the 5. I.e. on to the inner court between 8-10 meter shows the age (maximum) of around 10,500 BC.
http://www.rmol.co/r...y-Extraordinary- (Written in ??? translated above by Bing)

So, the samples were simply core samples taken of the hill. Probably if they repeated that procedure on 20 other hills in the region they would get the same numbers, or very close.

Interesting site, but unless they can find those hidden rooms and show they are real, I am not going to believe this hill is a structure. Why would the locals build a hill and THEN terrace it? Wouldn't it be easier to simply build several acres of low raised terrace, like is seen in China?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:36 AM

Dig it up!


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:33 PM

The stones are volcanic

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   http://en.wikipedia....Megalithic_Site
Gunung Padang is a megalithic site located in Karyamukti village, Cianjur regency, West Java Province of Indonesia, 50 km south-west of the city of Cianjur or 6 kilometers from Lampegan station. It is the largest megalithic site in South-Eastern Asia.
The existence of the site is mentioned in Rapporten van de Oudheidkundige Dienst (ROD, "Report of the Department of Antiquities") in 1914. The Dutch historian N. J. Krom also mentioned it in 1949. Employees of National Archeology Research Centre visited the site in 1979 for a study of archaeology, history and geology.
Located at 885 metres above see level, the site covers a hill in a series of terraces bordered by retaining walls of stone that are accessed by successive steps (about 400 andesit steps = 95 metres). It is covered with massive rectangular stones of volcanic origin. Local people consider the place as sacred and believe the site as a result of King Siliwangi attempt to build a palace in one night. The asymmetric Punden Berundak is facing up to northwest, to Mount Gede,[1] meaned constructed for the purpose of worship and built in a position that has been noticed geomantic and astromantic factors. Based on megalith shape the site is built in 1,500 years Before Christ.[2]

The site looks like this one in Peru

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

Sure the stones are volcanic, but what kind of stone is the hill made of? Even if it was volcanic, the hollows might be lava bubbles or lava tubes.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:08 PM

Here is an even better site.  It doesn't matter what the mountain is made of, and this site will help you see the possibility that it is a man made pryamid.  The U tube is in Indonesian, not English but all the information presented, paints a possible connection with other civilizations including Atlantis. because of the possible connections between the pryamids in Egypt and Peru, and the connection of this temple site and the one in Peru, I am believing the possibility of these sites being colonies of a forgotten civilization.  
http://www.abovetops...hread880575/pg1





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