Vacationing a human right, EU chief says

[AROCES]

The European Union has declared travelling a human right, and is launching a scheme to subsidize vacations with taxpayers' dollars for those too poor to afford their own trips.

Antonio Tajani, the European Union commissioner for enterprise and industry, proposed a strategy that could cost European taxpayers hundreds of millions of euros a year, The Times of London reports.

"Travelling for tourism today is a right. The way we spend our holidays is a formidable indicator of our quality of life," Mr. Tajani told a group of ministers at The European Tourism Stakeholders Conference in Madrid on April 15. Mr. Tajani was appointed to his post by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2923469#ixzz0lkbhl8FU

[itsnotoutthere]

The European Union has declared travelling a human right, and is launching a scheme to subsidize vacations with taxpayers' dollars for those too poor to afford their own trips.

Antonio Tajani, the European Union commissioner for enterprise and industry, proposed a strategy that could cost European taxpayers hundreds of millions of euros a year, The Times of London reports.

"Travelling for tourism today is a right. The way we spend our holidays is a formidable indicator of our quality of life," Mr. Tajani told a group of ministers at The European Tourism Stakeholders Conference in Madrid on April 15. Mr. Tajani was appointed to his post by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2923469#ixzz0lkbhl8FU

So how does that square with E.U. climate change policy?

[WoIverine]

More Euro vacations, must be nice. Corporate America is slowly adopting a Japanese work-ethic it seems. Long hours, anything over 40 per week is unpaid due to being on "salary", however, those hours are still expected of the employee.

I'm sure that "vacationing" is one right the elitists and corporate moguls would love to abolish.

Edited April 21, 2010 by SpiderCyde

[Pseudo Intellectual]

I think our European friends don't know what a right is.

And we thought people who believed health care was a right were bad...

[Corp]

Well that's just stupid.

[J.B.]

Yeah. . . If Europe is our model of a proper government, I do hope we steer onto our own path before we get our senators and bureau heads screaming that taxpayers should pay for each other's vacations.

It's not a Human Right to compete with the Joneses. I know Americans will know that cliche, and I'm sure everyone else can understand it even if they haven't heard it before.

This is the same mindset that consumers got when they started adopting the idea of living off of credit, just before the Great Depression. . . and I needn't tell you where that headed for the U.S.

Edited April 21, 2010 by J.B.

[silentsinger]

Well i am sure many poor people could find better ways to use the money, like paying for rent or food. I live in EU(denmark), and i cant currently afford to travel, have bills to pay, and i think this idea is ridiculous. There are so many more important issues in the world to use the money for.

[WoIverine]

Yeah. . . If Europe is our model of a proper government, I do hope we steer onto our own path before we get our senators and bureau heads screaming that taxpayers should pay for each other's vacations.

Corporate Soceity Heads: "We should be able to work people right to death if we feel like it! Why should we offer paid vacation time, even to our most loyal of employees? In fact, why should we have to even pay our workers? If they mutiny, or fail to show up for work, our political associates can have them arrested for no offense at all! There's absolutely no way we can lose! Refuse to work? Here's a nice furnace for you and your family to keep warm. Has R&D figured out a profitable way to use their ashes yet?"

Edited April 21, 2010 by SpiderCyde

[J.B.]

This is what happens when you let merchants run government. Founding Fathers knew the trouble, it's why they said for Government to keep the Mints under their own control. And, let's face it, if the government was in direct control of cash flow, those coprorations could go screw themselves to a wall for all the real power they'd have over us. But. . . unless the conspiracy theorists are wrong about everything, it's corporate folk who control the Fed.

[WoIverine]

This is what happens when you let merchants run government. Founding Fathers knew the trouble, it's why they said for Government to keep the Mints under their own control. And, let's face it, if the government was in direct control of cash flow, those coprorations could go screw themselves to a wall for all the real power they'd have over us. But. . . unless the conspiracy theorists are wrong about everything, it's corporate folk who control the Fed.

Corporate "Special Interest Groups" and their contributions I'm sure have zero influence on anything in the political realm, that's just preposterous!

[Raptor]

I think our European friends don't know what a right is.

Enlighten us.

[acidhead]

Its a trap.

The first sign is when something is offered for free by government™.

Paid vacations is not a right - its a privilege..... a privilege to work, save and treat yourself for your hard work.

When a bureaucrat try's to say that each person is deserved the 'right' for something that usually requires hard work to develop than he's trapping everybody by targeting the poor who will latch onto this proposal, especially while the economy is still in crisis.

-like dangling candy in front of a child...... this is how fat-cat bureaucrats talk to people these days - like we're all still in the 7th grade.

The corporate controlled western governments™ realize that without full cooperation from the taxpayers their political clout and power would diminish because they are operating large structured corporations that cannot possibly survive under the weight of a changing world economy.

'the bigger they are the harder they fall' -is the golden rule behind the free-market system.

This is why communism fails, fascism fails without violent pressure and why socialism is always rejected by the majority of persons.

The world government™ is knocking on each persons back door - they use fear through violence and economic pressure to manipulate you.

They are scared of you.

They are scared you, your friends, or your family just may take away what they built and do not want to give up.

But the future is inevitable and so is the economic future of power and control......

'the bigger they are - the harder they fall'....... without zombie-like cooperation.

Will you cooperate?.... or will you be all that you want to be and be better each day and knock the king down from his ladder?

Wouldn't it be great to be your own king for just one day?

-you can..... each person reading this can be....... but remember, its not forever.

Nothing is forever.

Edited April 21, 2010 by acidhead

[supervike]

I'm sure this fellow doesn't speak for a majority of Europeons...(at least I hope not!)

But, I'll be willing to wager that he has a big interest in his personal finances tied to the 'tourist trade'.

[J.B.]

Enlighten us.

I would try, but the DoI and the Constitution kind of run together, and if you look at them in a certain light, I can kind of see how everything to do with peace, love, and happiness would be a government created right. Definitely not the best interpretation of that set of documents, but I couldn't back up my own view of the limits between rights and privileges with a document.

I'm starting to see where the only way the government's going against our foundation is in policing the world. That alone would cause a revolt if the Founders were here now, but not sure how violent they'd get with it.

My view: Rights: To live, and have the ability to save up enough cash to be comfortable in life, without being run into the ground like serf labor.

Privileges: What we get to do with that money, without harming others.

In my view, yes, this EU government is blurring the line between rights and privileges.

[keithisco]

Firstly... the title is misleading because the person mentioned is not the EU "Chief"

For the rest of you that actually want to read the Madrid proposal - well here it is (if the upload function worked!)

You might want to consider the facts rather than the Press Hype...IMO

document.pdf

[Drj312]

haha!! more taxes for europe!

my family never vacations because of the cost. its fine. i really dont want other people to pay for stuff i do, just as i dont want to pay for other people.

[J.B.]

There are only a few vacations I want to take when I'm older, and that's because there are certain things I've sworn I want to show my family when I and my future wife start one. The Mojave states for sure.

[Wickian]

I don't think a vacation should be considered a human right and funded through tax dollars. At most someone should have the option of taking a few weeks off a year, and it should be up to them to fund whatever they do with it.

You can get just as much of a rest and break from work in your home as you can from traveling.

[J.B.]

I don't think a vacation should be considered a human right and funded through tax dollars. At most someone should have the option of taking a few weeks off a year, and it should be up to them to fund whatever they do with it.

You can get just as much of a rest and break from work in your home as you can from traveling.

Remember, much of Europe's history involved Feudalism and serfdom, so. . . this could be an attempt to get the poor behind the idea of going into a situation a lot more like that again. Probably wouldn't work, but he does mention culture as the primary reason for his motivation.

[Mattshark]

Firstly... the title is misleading because the person mentioned is not the EU "Chief"

For the rest of you that actually want to read the Madrid proposal - well here it is (if the upload function worked!)

You might want to consider the facts rather than the Press Hype...IMO

Don't expect people to bother, being ignorant is just soooo much less hassle mate.

Hence the current number of downloads.

[Pseudo Intellectual]

Enlighten us.

A human right is something no-one can take from you, like the right to life. It's not something people are obligated to give you, like a vacation.

Edited April 22, 2010 by Pseudo Intellectual

[gabe]

Firstly... the title is misleading because the person mentioned is not the EU "Chief"

For the rest of you that actually want to read the Madrid proposal - well here it is (if the upload function worked!)

You might want to consider the facts rather than the Press Hype...IMO

hey thanks, I was searching for source of that statement.

Don't expect people to bother, being ignorant is just soooo much less hassle mate.

Hence the current number of downloads.

Seriously. I'm surprised that people are still complaining against this. It seems that every time someone posts evidence that doesn't conform to their belief it is just ignored. I feel like we're a small group of people trapped in an invisibility bubble and no one outside can hear us. Like if we're ghosts observing an event from the other-side. Can it be that certain people don't bother reading a thread even if it's just a page long?

[Sthenno]

Just read the document... nothing in there seems unreasonable at all. So where di they get 'human right' from?!

[sp840tril]

More Euro vacations, must be nice. Corporate America is slowly adopting a Japanese work-ethic it seems. Long hours, anything over 40 per week is unpaid due to being on "salary", however, those hours are still expected of the employee.

I'm sure that "vacationing" is one right the elitists and corporate moguls would love to abolish.

That's why the japanese have the highest suicide rate in the world. Big company owners are working people to death(literally). Even if this is not a good idea to make vacationing mandatory, something has to be done and I have no idea what it is.

[Doc Socks Junior]

Just read the document... nothing in there seems unreasonable at all. So where di they get 'human right' from?!

They aren't getting it from the document. They're getting it from what the guy quoted in the article said. If you can't see that, then you, and all the people complaining about "ignorance" should learn something.