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#1    The Id3al Experience

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:35 PM

http://www.stuff.co....riage-legalised

Same sex marriage passed in the Beehive lastnight. History is made.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

I think a lot of countries will start passing it.  Should anyway, what does it hurt.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:58 PM

Gay couples should be allowed to marry and have the same rights as Heterosexual couples, a big pat on the back for the NZ parliament and one in the eye for the religious homophobic lobby.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

This is the kind of bills we want passed. :tu:

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:16 PM

This is wonderful, I love hearing news about good things that are happening in the world. This is definitely good news.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:24 PM

Since so many people here in the U.S. seem to be against gays marriage, we should just create a new form of it called "Parriage" that has all of the same legal rights, but churches can refuse to perform for.  Then the whole "Marriage is between a man and a women" garbage will become moot.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

One of our local churches is having a ceremony for a gay couple. It won't be official or legal, but it's going to be a big event.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostThe Id3al Experience, on 17 April 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

http://www.stuff.co....riage-legalised

Same sex marriage passed in the Beehive lastnight. History is made.

Fan-freaking-tastic!!!!!! Go New Zealand!

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:37 PM

My nephew and his husband have been together over 30 years.  I think they have earned the right to be married.  I'm sorry, but I think to call it anything else would be a slap in the face.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:42 PM

View Postmoonshadow60, on 17 April 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

My nephew and his husband have been together over 30 years.  I think they have earned the right to be married.  I'm sorry, but I think to call it anything else would be a slap in the face.

That is awesome. They do deserve to be married and have all the rights and recognition of a married couple.

However, the whole being together for 30 years part makes me want to faint. I couldn't image being with anyone for that long.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

View PostRocketgirl, on 17 April 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

That is awesome. They do deserve to be married and have all the rights and recognition of a married couple.

However, the whole being together for 30 years part makes me want to faint. I couldn't image being with anyone for that long.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:42 PM

If you believe marriage is about love then it makes sense to marry gays too.

But it has to do with childbirth, so it makes no sense whatsoever. It was originally conceived to celebrate bringing life into the world, and the economic benefits as a privilege towards those ends.

They re-defined marriage to be "about love" before gays were even accepted in society - so in a way, gays aren't even getting married, it's just something we call marriage. The reason why conservatives are losing is because they failed to realize the real meaning of marriage and resorted to using the Bible as an argument, just constantly stating "Marriage is between a man and a woman.", not explaining WHY or even bothering to make the logical argument - in a way, they deserved to lose.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:47 PM

Plenty of straight people get married without the intent of having kids though. What if the woman is 50+ years old? Is she only allowed to marry if she can give birth?

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

I think marriage has evolved into love.
Yes, it may have started for childbirth purposes, but now, marriage is so much more than that.
Even if the conservatives brought that up, it's just about as ridiculous as fighting the "between man and woman" card.
For the time being, we still have a choice on who we marry and who we love. And in modern day society, a large majority marry for love and not so much baby making purposes.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:12 AM

View Postlittle_dreamer, on 17 April 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

Plenty of straight people get married without the intent of having kids though.
In the past people didn't get married if they weren't going to have kids.

The thing is gays are right when they say modern people opposing gay marriage are hypocrites because modern people tend to accept the warped narrative anyway. Like I said, they deserved to lose.

I support actual traditional marriage. As it stands now though allowing gays to marry is like desecrating a corpse - it's mocking and unnecessary but hey, she's already dead.

View PostOdd Requiem, on 17 April 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

it's just about as ridiculous as fighting the "between man and woman" card.
No it's not, but then again they'd bring it up in a vacuum devoid of any other traditions, so it would seem arbitrary. They make no effort to enforce traditional marriage anyway, gays or no gays. Modern conservatives are more loyal to money and Jesus than anything, not a real nationalist spirit.

The way I see it though is imagine if in the future people forgot that handicapped parking spaces were only for handicapped people, and then people started to say it was "unequal", forgetting the reason for their existence...so then there was a movement to allow non-handicapped people to use them. Sounds silly at first but it shows how semantic distortion can warp perceptions over time. Granted it would be more obvious but I can't think of a better analogy. Understand though how frustrated I am when someone claims I am "anti-equality" for my views, they don't understand how I see it from my own worldview - but as I said, I concede that modern conservatives have no moral highground and in a way deserve to lose for being such banal idiots.

Edited by Gravitorbox, 18 April 2013 - 12:13 AM.

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