Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


* * * * * 2 votes

Obama called a "war criminal" & "hypocrite"


  • Please log in to reply
63 replies to this topic

#46    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 24 June 2013 - 08:13 PM

View Postdanielost, on 24 June 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

He is supposed to work with congress. Not go around the anytime he wants.  Congress is working like it is supposed to.

No, Congress isn't working---that's the problem.

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#47    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 24 June 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostKowalski, on 24 June 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

You had a fire? Glad your okay!
:)

Sorry to hear about a fire. Had I been there, I would have p#$$%d on it to help extinguish it.

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#48    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 24 June 2013 - 08:18 PM

Last night I wrote Barack another letter
demanding he should start to govern better.
He replied, "Thanks for your thoughts
but they're already caught
since Bush made NSA a go-getter."

Edited by szentgyorgy, 24 June 2013 - 08:19 PM.

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#49    danielost

danielost

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 28,977 posts
  • Joined:26 Nov 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:the only known inhabited planet in the universe

Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:08 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 24 June 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:



No, Congress isn't working---that's the problem.

Nope, congress is working just like it is supposed to.  The founding fathers wainted it to be almost impossible to get a law passed.

Not pass them and let the courts get rid of the bad ones, as one democrat said this year.  This is why all las have to go through the house and senate and then have the president say yes or no.  We are the only country doing it this way.  Everyone else have a prime minaster who aswers to the government.  The house the senate and the president
ll answer to the people.

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
There are other mormons on this site. So if I have misspoken about the beliefs. I welcome their input.
I am not perfect and never will be. I do strive to be true to myself. I do my best to stay true to the mormon faith. Thank for careing and if you don't peace be with you.

#50    acidhead

acidhead

    Were Not Your Slaves!

  • Member
  • 10,359 posts
  • Joined:13 Feb 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Victoria, BC CANADA

Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:25 AM

View Postdanielost, on 24 June 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

Nope, congress is working just like it is supposed to.  The founding fathers wainted it to be almost impossible to get a law passed.

Not pass them and let the courts get rid of the bad ones, as one democrat said this year.  This is why all las have to go through the house and senate and then have the president say yes or no.  We are the only country doing it this way.  Everyone else have a prime minaster who aswers to the government.  The house the senate and the president
ll answer to the people.

yes

"there is no wrong or right - just popular opinion"

#51    questionmark

questionmark

    Cinicus Magnus

  • Member
  • 35,100 posts
  • Joined:26 Jun 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Greece and Des Moines, IA

  • In a flat world there is an explanation to everything.

Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:00 AM

View Postacidhead, on 25 June 2013 - 05:25 AM, said:

yes

No, every 3 instance parliamentary system (lower house, upper house, prezz) works that way (Germany, France, among others come to mind).

The difference is that in other countries they actually work. All this talk about Congress is not supposed to pass laws is just another way of certain circles to hide their incapability and fueled by those who want to break up the union.

Edited by questionmark, 25 June 2013 - 09:02 AM.

A skeptic is a well informed believer and a pessimist a well informed optimist
The most dangerous views of the world are from those who have never seen it. ~ Alexander v. Humboldt
If you want to bulls**t me please do it so that it takes me more than a minute to find out

about me

#52    Papagiorgio

Papagiorgio

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 847 posts
  • Joined:17 Oct 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Philadelphia PA

  • I'm just saying.

Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:28 AM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 24 June 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Woodrow Wilson campaigned in 1916 promising to keep America out of WW I. He was inaugurated for his second term on January 20, 1917, and supported Congress in declaring war on Germany in April 1917.

Is there a politician in history who hasn't lied/changed his or her mind/altered a policy position in the face of changed or extenuating circumstances? Obama is anything but unique.

Hitler.

(Bolding is mine)

Edited by Papagiorgio, 25 June 2013 - 11:29 AM.

I'm just saying.

#53    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:00 PM

View Postdanielost, on 24 June 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

I believe one of criuse ships was torpidoed, with a loss of everyone on board.  And he never ordered attacks on friendly soil. As far as I know.


You know that I was referring to lying, not specific acts. The Lusitania was sunk by an Imperial German U-Boat in 1915, but Wilson continued to campaign on a 'stay out of war' policy. He pushed Congress for a declaration of war 3 months after re-election, and got it. No person of integrity waits 2 years before acting on his moral outrage at the sinking of a passenger liner (it also may have carried munitions, making it a 'legitimate' war target for the Kaiser).

Wilson also rounded-up and incarcerated conscientious objectors, Socialists and Communists in America's first 'red scare' (1917-1921). Thank goodness he had no NSA, CIA, 'Prism' digital program or (so-called) 'Patriot Act.'

What are these "attacks on friendly soil?" That's a generalization citing no facts.

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#54    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:50 PM

View Postdanielost, on 23 June 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Five days after he took office.  He hadn't even unpacked yet.  The nobal people believed his lies.

If you know anything about Europe, you understand that the 'premature' Nobel Prize was much more a comment, and slap in the face, to 8 years of W. than it was a reward for anything Obama had accomplished. It was a typical symbolic gesture on the part of peace-loving Scandinavia to recognize that Obama had (past tense intentional) the potential to bring 8 years of largely futile American aggression and Arab-Afghani attrition to an end.

I am the first to agree that Obama has not lived up to that potential. And Sweden sent troops (mainly security and snipers) to Afghanistan.

Edited by szentgyorgy, 25 June 2013 - 02:51 PM.

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#55    danielost

danielost

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 28,977 posts
  • Joined:26 Nov 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:the only known inhabited planet in the universe

Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:12 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 25 June 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:



No, every 3 instance parliamentary system (lower house, upper house, prezz) works that way (Germany, France, among others come to mind).

The difference is that in other countries they actually work. All this talk about Congress is not supposed to pass laws is just another way of certain circles to hide their incapability and fueled by those who want to break up the union.

No, it doesn't.  It goes through the prime minaster.  Who answers to the congress not the people.  The democrats want us to have a prime minaster, so that new laws won't htave to go through a republican president.

Edited by danielost, 25 June 2013 - 07:15 PM.

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
There are other mormons on this site. So if I have misspoken about the beliefs. I welcome their input.
I am not perfect and never will be. I do strive to be true to myself. I do my best to stay true to the mormon faith. Thank for careing and if you don't peace be with you.

#56    questionmark

questionmark

    Cinicus Magnus

  • Member
  • 35,100 posts
  • Joined:26 Jun 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Greece and Des Moines, IA

  • In a flat world there is an explanation to everything.

Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:22 PM

View Postdanielost, on 25 June 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

No, it doesn't.  It goes through the prime minaster.  Who answers to the congress not the people.

See what you know? The highest authority in any of those states is the president. And if you have not heard of him in the case of Germany (his name happens to be Joachim Gauck and not Angela Merkel, she is just the boss of the government) it is be cause his duties are to ensure that the constitution and laws are adhered to, not to meddle with parliamentary affairs. Before that guy does not sign nothing goes.... and to the contrary of the US there is no way to make him sign or circumvent him ... that is why he does not interfere in daily politics.

A skeptic is a well informed believer and a pessimist a well informed optimist
The most dangerous views of the world are from those who have never seen it. ~ Alexander v. Humboldt
If you want to bulls**t me please do it so that it takes me more than a minute to find out

about me

#57    danielost

danielost

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 28,977 posts
  • Joined:26 Nov 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:the only known inhabited planet in the universe

Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:21 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 25 June 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:




You know that I was referring to lying, not specific acts. The Lusitania was sunk by an Imperial German U-Boat in 1915, but Wilson continued to campaign on a 'stay out of war' policy. He pushed Congress for a declaration of war 3 months after re-election, and got it. No person of integrity waits 2 years before acting on his moral outrage at the sinking of a passenger liner (it also may have carried munitions, making it a 'legitimate' war target for the Kaiser).

Wilson also rounded-up and incarcerated conscientious objectors, Socialists and Communists in America's first 'red scare' (1917-1921). Thank goodness he had no NSA, CIA, 'Prism' digital program or (so-called) 'Patriot Act.'

What are these "attacks on friendly soil?" That's a generalization citing no facts.


Pakiastan issupposed to be an ally.  The only countries we invaded or bombed were in enemy hands.

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
There are other mormons on this site. So if I have misspoken about the beliefs. I welcome their input.
I am not perfect and never will be. I do strive to be true to myself. I do my best to stay true to the mormon faith. Thank for careing and if you don't peace be with you.

#58    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:30 AM

View Postdanielost, on 25 June 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

Pakiastan issupposed to be an ally.  The only countries we invaded or bombed were in enemy hands.

Close, but no cigar. Pakistan is an ally in name only; their intelligence service collaborated in Daniel Pearl's beheading, and they give aid and succor to the Taliban. Iraq was in its own hands, not an enemy's. Reagan and Rumsfeld s&*$#d them off and gave them arms during the 1980's (Iran-Iraq War). Any gas Hussein had was courtesy of Uncle Sam, and could have been (but wasn't) used against my son (PFC, US Army) in 2003. Imagine that! US arms turned against US personnel!!!  An alleged 'moderate' government of Harmid Karzai in Afghanistan is our supposed "friend,' not any enemy. We wreak impotent havoc anyway. What countries have we bombed in the past 10 years that are "in enemy hands?"

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#59    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:23 AM

View Postdanielost, on 25 June 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

Pakiastan issupposed to be an ally.  The only countries we invaded or bombed were in enemy hands.

Which countries, pray tell?

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads

#60    DeWitz

DeWitz

    DeWitz

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,610 posts
  • Joined:11 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Niagara Frontier

  • "If you can't say something nice, be creative."
    Clyde P. Fesmire, PhD

Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:32 AM

View Postdanielost, on 24 June 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

Nope, congress is working just like it is supposed to.  The founding fathers wainted it to be almost impossible to get a law passed.

Not pass them and let the courts get rid of the bad ones, as one de

View Postacidhead, on 25 June 2013 - 05:25 AM, said:

yes
mocrat said this year.  This is why all las have to go through the house and senate and then have the president say yes or no.  We are the only country doing it this way.  Everyone else have a prime minaster who aswers to the government.  The house the senate and the president
ll answer to the people.

Congress is working like a blood clot in a 97-year-old's carotid artery. The tri-partite government wasn't designed to result in freezing mudslides or quickly-cooling lava flows. Congress has been continuously obstructionist for 5 years. Do you read the newspapers or watch any TV news? (Google "do-nothing Congress"). If Congress were bending over for Bush or Stalin, you'd be their greatest supporter. . . and the beat goes on. "Tinfoil to the left of me, ignorance to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you. . ."

Edited by szentgyorgy, 26 June 2013 - 02:33 AM.

[previously incarnate as 'szentgyorgy']

"Things fall apart. . . it's scientific." - Talking Heads




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users