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[psyche101]

AMARUKHAN111666888, on 20 January 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

• I came to the conclusion about the tsunami based on the remains of sea animals  scattered around the high land of  the Andes, fish bones in Atacama desert and Arica, dolphins'  skeletons en Arequipa, sea shell on the peaks of the Andes,  Ancient coral present. muscles found in Tiwanaku soil, sea horses living in lake Titikaka.or
  
• the highland of the Andes was on sea level and it rose up with its ancient cities.

That is Plate Tectonics at work.

[dharma warrior]

Why stop there? Lets throw in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny as well.

[Oniomancer]

psyche101, on 20 January 2013 - 04:40 AM, said:

That is Plate Tectonics at work.

Except for the sea horses. That's something else at work, or over work. namely the imagination.

[TheOtherSide1945]

wait, are you guys doubting that there is fossilized sea creatures high in the mountains?

[Abramelin]

TheOtherSide1945, on 20 January 2013 - 05:50 AM, said:

wait, are you guys doubting that there is fossilized sea creatures high in the mountains?

No one doubts that, but it has nothing to do with the age of Tiwanaku.

[TheOtherSide1945]

Abramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

No one doubts that, but it has nothing to do with the age of Tiwanaku.

ok just checking.

[psyche101]

TheOtherSide1945, on 20 January 2013 - 05:50 AM, said:

wait, are you guys doubting that there is fossilized sea creatures high in the mountains?

No, we are doubting that Tsunamis manage to attain a height of 4 Kilometers. Plate tectonics explains the fossils. Not impossible Tsunami's.

[cormac mac airt]

TheOtherSide1945, on 20 January 2013 - 05:50 AM, said:

wait, are you guys doubting that there is fossilized sea creatures high in the mountains?

Nope, just that the elevaton of the location didn't suddenly occur within human history.

cormac

[the L]

Abe here is something for you:

http://archive.nlm.n...zwini_home.html


Here is something interesting.

Edited by the L, 20 January 2013 - 07:35 AM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Impossible Tsunami wouls be an awesome name for a band actually

[zoser]

Abramelin, on 19 January 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

Zoser,

You will never really respond to what I posted about the Romans, right?

There is nothing curious in Roman or Greek work in the way of precision architecture that would allude to unknown high technology.  The polygonal precision work in Cuzco and Sacsayhuaman is totally unique and enigmatic and unexplainable.  Your examples in Japan and Easter Island are just as ancient and most probably utilised the same unknown technology.  

Nothing of interest in Rome or Greece to compare.  I've seen your pictures of the columns and I've seen seeder's pictures of the aquaducts and Parthenon.   This work is easily explainable.  The Cuzco and Sacsayhuaman work could not be replicated with our technology today.  That would be the position of an AA proponent and nothing has happened since the construction of these incredible artefacts to prove otherwise.  The burden still rests with the skeptics to provide counter evidence; so far no evidence has come forward.

Like you will never really respond to what I posted about the Inca style buildings constructed during colonial times.

You said they used mortar, and I explained to you and I showed you they didn't.

I see mortar.  If what I spotted was not mortar then what is it?  It is exactly where I though it would be; around the smaller blocks.  There are gaps there too not shadows.  This work looks to me like the blocks were cut in ancient times and the Inca recycled them but needed a filler to do a good job.  

There is nothing in the Spanish Chronicles that describes how the precision blocks were cut and assembled.  Only a team of Inca dragging blocks with rope that probably were quarried and cut in an earlier time.

There is no proof that the Inca made Sacsayhuaman, or the Cuzco walls.  None at all.  They were not up to it.  They didn't have the technology to soften blocks, and vitrify them.  All that has been proved now and there is a mountain of pictorial evidence that cannot be argued with.

The pounding, hacking, copper and bronze tool ideas should now be totally discarded in the light of new evidence presented on this thread.  Those crude methods were used by the Inca.  Their trademark was rough boulder and adobe construction.  In a few rare places they tried to emulate ancient precision work but could not match it.

A team of modern stonemasons attempted to replicate the work with much smaller blocks and steel tools and fell short.  

Nothing supports these outdated theories.  I'm sorry Abe but this is the case.  The evidence was there all along but people just ignored it.  There is still much to be discovered but it won't happen if people insist on clinging to false information and anecdotal evidence written 500 years ago.

Edited by zoser, 20 January 2013 - 08:52 AM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

but, equally, there is nothing to support an extra-terrestiral agency.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Wearer of Hats, on 20 January 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

but, equally, there is nothing to support an extra-terrestiral agency.

didn't you know? Absence of proof is proof that it must have been. it's the "what else could it have been?" argument.

[zoser]

Wearer of Hats, on 20 January 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

but, equally, there is nothing to support an extra-terrestiral agency.

Only unknown methods of rock softening and vitrification all pointing to high technology that indiginous indians could not have possessed.

People are free to believe as they chose.

[zoser]

Lord Vetinari, on 20 January 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

didn't you know? Absence of proof is proof that it must have been. it's the "what else could it have been?" argument.

Not really because other indications exist.





I would say that the case is infinitely stronger than just simply pointing to absence of evidence.

The evidence is in fact everywhere.

I stand on that.