Anything To Win

[4dplane]

I think it is very likely that Bush will plant some BS WMD Right before the 2004 election. Maybe like two weeks before, just enough time to bring up his approval rating but to little time for the world to investigate the findings properly.

To bad we can't put money down on this poll - now that would be exciting!

[about]

heh

Unfortunately, there were no WMD. It was just a plot so that America could free the Iraqis, get revenge on Osama Bin laden's country and collect the huge oil reposits.

What a lovely thought

[Stellar]

I think there were WMDs actually. Its possible that the US plants WMDs in Iraq just before the elections, or its possible that those WMDs are real (maybe found a while ago and just delayed the release of the info till october)... but I think that its not necessarily WMDs that might be found but OBL...

[Britannica]

Planting WMD... I suppose wouldn't put it past him.

As for finding real ones (if there were any), well, only if some terrorist leaves one on the doorstep of the white house with a note saying:

Dear George,

This is a weapon of mass destruction

After all, they haven't been found yet, so the chances are pretty slim.

[Stellar]

Planting WMD... I suppose wouldn't put it past him.

As for finding real ones (if there were any), well, only if some terrorist leaves one on the doorstep of the white house with a note saying:

Dear George,

This is a weapon of mass destruction

After all, they haven't been found yet, so the chances are pretty slim.

Sorry well I mean anything proving WMDs like an admission by Saddam, or a huge bust in Syria with WMDs said to have come from Iraq, a few buried barrels of mustard gas or something... I really dont think that WMDs are in Iraq anymore, but theres always the possibility that they missed a few barrels.

[anonymous57]

I doubt that there are any WMD in Iraq, unless someone (my money's on Blair) deliberately puts them there for Bush to find.

Or maybe they'll force Saddam to confess.

[The Gryphon]

I don't think they'll find anything, not that there wasn't some to begin with. I doubt they'll find one before the elections, especially after that weird stuff about keeping Saddam in a hole and orchestrating his discovery, what Crock!

[Stellar]

lol I know. That one was evident from the beginning.

[Dowdy]

Or maybe they'll force Saddam to confess.

Or maybe they force Saddam to say something to make Bush approval rating go up

[jenk]

I could realy see him planting WMD or just hiding ones he has found already and will show them befor elections. Sadly I think this very well could win him the elections. Once Joe shmoe american see's Bush saved his ass from evil and dirty WMD (I'm just wondering how many WMD the U.S. has..) he will be bowing to Bush and licking his shoes to a shine! I don't think the public would consider questioning Bush's claims........

[Stellar]

Dont bring up how much WMDs the US has cuz theres a difference between the US and Iraq. I have my doubts whether he would plant fake WMDs though, cuz he knows the minute he announces it, UN inspectors from all over the world would be booking a flight to Iraq. He'd have to do it pretty soon before the elections, but at that time, it'll seem too obviouse that somethings fishy, and even if he gets elected by it, he might get found out and get in deeper sh**. My bet is that if WMDs are found, they'll be some small remenants of what Saddam once had, and they would have been found a while before the press release.

[bathory]

if they were going to plant them, they would have already 'found' them by now

[Seraphina]

While I don't doubt the idea has occured to the President (by President, I of course mean the Vice President...you know..the guy running your country)...but I don't think it would be worth the risk to try it.

Currently, this war is in such bad favour that the international community is watching it like a hawk. If WMDs were to suddenly "pop up", I think it would not only be highly suspect, but if they were planted it would probably not only come to light that they were, but it would cause even more damage to Bush's reputation than has already been done.

[4dplane]

if they were going to plant them, they would have already 'found' them by now

The reason I say 2 - 3 weeks is because I feel that every good or bad decision the US president makes, only makes an impact on the US public opinion for a sort time. After that, public opinion of Bush and Kerry even out. I have been watching a single poll now for 2 mounts and I have also been monitoring "World News International". Every time the president makes a good move, walking off the aircraft carry like some tuff guy rowdy from the Bronx, his ratings go up. When pornographic prison abuse photos of Iraqi prisoners are found, his ratings go down for a bit. This same concept could apply to WMD. This would have a larger impact on the public of Bush and easily win him the 2004 election.

…the minute he announces it, UN inspectors from all over the world would be booking a flight to Iraq.

…pretty soon before the elections, but at that time, it'll seem too obviouse that somethings fishy

I don’t know, I have smelled stinky fish ever since I realized the powers that be.

As to people inspecting clams to WMD found, I have no reason to believe they couldn’t be tricked. If in truth, WMD where found, you could say that the people, who have been looking for WMD all along, have been tricked until now. How can anyone be so sure that the UN will just know if it’s been planted or not?

I’ve never been to Iraq, nor do I know that much about the daily life of the Iraqis. But I think it is a world that is controlled by the US, at least in its core. Controlling the core of country gives you the ability to make nothing into something. Who could really prove it was a lie.

The current president of the US won the election by faulty mechanical voting machines, some help from a dear brother, and don't forget about a supreme court judge or two, who put the capital B in Bull#&$#. If you try and bring this truth to the surface now, people shoot it down by saying, “O can we please get over it and move on!” This same effect could happen to WMD found weeks before the 2004 US elections.

Just incase people don’t know, you can vote without talking. So - VOTE!

Edited May 16, 2004 by 4dplane

[stillcrazy]

I don't think it will be a discovery of WMD just before the election, but more likely the capture or death of Osama bin Coward. I predict that he will be found in July, possibly August, and the republican party will ride that horse to death in the next few months before the election. The other aspect is that when they catch the coward of terror, THEN it would be in Bushiters best interest to say they gleaned information that The Chicken of Bagdad, AKA Saddam, gave him Weapons of Mis-Direction.

The war will not have that much effect even if Bushiter and Haliburton er Cheney come out with WMDs every one will call it false and I don't think Cheney is that stupid, Bush yes, Cheney no.

BTW Anyone who claims Bush did anything after 9/11 is fooling themselves. It was the hard working folks who dug through the wreckage by hand, the millions of folks that sent food, supplies and money to the effort of the workers at ground zero New York, Washiton D.C. and Pennsyvania. Bush just made speeches and Laws that have done nothing to protect anyone, then claims credit for bringing this country together. But you notice he dosn't claim credit for dividing the country on the Iraqi war.

Nuff of my ranting, I off to sleep and to dream about a centerist president who worships 57 Chevy hubcaps.

[saucy]

I think if Bush was going to pull the "I found them before the election," he would've done it turning that time when the press was calling him a liar because of the few words he said in the State of the Union address. If he found the weapons now, a year ago, or a week before the election, it would make his numbers jump. Only the democrats, people who suspect Bush lies about everything, would say Bush dumped them there to be found right before the election. Wouldn't it be funny if we found the weapons and they still had american flags painted on them?

[4dplane]

I don't think it will be a discovery of WMD just before the election, but more likely the capture or death of Osama bin Coward.

That would have fit nicly into this poll. When I made it I was only thinking about WMD as a stunt Bush would pull to win the election, but finding Osama Bin Laden would also help make the big win for GWB.

[Kismit]

Using the few neurons I have left to work out the bush administrations political stratergy before the election , I would surmise that there will be an awful lot of running arround trying to fix up what damage has been done allready .

Thus there will be no finding or planting of WMD because nobody is going to have the time to bring up what essentially has prooven itself a moot point in this war .

Damage control will be done by putting a positive spin on the most important current issuse . Because one of the best ways to control a voting population is to work on there short term memory rather than the long term . That's why election polls are so often changeable .

[+joc]

Because one of the best ways to control a voting population is to work on there short term memory rather than the long term .

So then the 'voting population' is a group of dimwitted proletarians who wake up believing whatever the newspapers say that day?

I find fault with the premise Kismit, I don't think the US voting population is subject to the control of any candidate. Consider how the press tried to utterly destroy Ronald Reagan, yet the 'voting population' elected him in an unprecedented landslide.

I also find fault with the assumption that the voting population even has a long-term memory...I am quite certain they do not.

[Stellar]

I just have a gut feeling that Bush has a trick up his sleeve... and another gut feeling that Bush is gonna win the elections. I dont know why though (hey, maybe im psycic!)

[Kismit]

So Joc you presume so much about my post . Lets see where we went wrong shall we .

You assumed I called the general population dimwitted proletarians , which I'm happy to point out I did not .

Damage control will be done by putting a positive spin on the most important current issuse . Because one of the best ways to control a voting population is to work on there short term memory rather than the long term

I don't at all assume that most people are idiots allthough I'm sure we've all had days that would make us wonder .

I also find fault with the assumption that the voting population even has a long-term memory...I am quite certain they do not.

Of course they do Joc , it's a scientifically verifiable and provable fact , I assume your just being a trifle synical .

Consider how the press tried to utterly destroy Ronald Reagan, yet the 'voting population' elected him in an unprecedented landslide.

I didn't see this because, I was naught but a snot faced bairn at the time and living in Australia which isn't part of the U.S.A. . However I will assume (again) that Regan had a group of Spin Doctors working in high geared damage control . I mean how else did people know the press where trying to discredit him unless somebody let the general public in on the secret . Edited May 18, 2004 by Kismit

[wunarmdscissor]

I was naught but a snot faced bairn at the time and living in Australia which isn't part of the U.S.A.

Ur an aussie in kiwi land then?

Jesus, i saw how they reacted to Jesse in "home and away" when they found out he was a kiwi. lol.

[Kismit]

Lol Wun ,

actually it's a very interesting way to view your country of birth . I can even make all the Aussies laugh by just saying ....Baaaaa!!!

Now back on topic

[tkr9]

It's extremely out of character for the CIA not to have planted any yet. If they haven't done it yet, they never will.

[+joc]

I assume your just being a trifle synical .

Most likely considerably more than a trifel