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#121    freetoroam

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 14 February 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

No change there then... they covered up their own BSE Infection in France and allowed meat from infected French carcasses to enter the food chain whilst banning UK Beef products.

All part of the Political game I guess
Yep, and we still bought their meat!
Considering most of our companies are getting better deals from abroad, they do not give a damn about whats in it if it boosts their profits. But they do suddenly "care" when they get caught.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:05 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 14 February 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

Chinese chicken legs (alias Rat), sold in a take-away in Brum last year, Dont know whether they were Peking or Hong Kong variety.
The fast food "chicken" chains has been at it for years. Someone should have told these Turkish and Asian owners that we do not eat rat here!!!

before someone jumps on that....were I lived every single privately owned fast food chicken shop were owned by the Turkish and Asian people, and we had a rat fest surge there a few years back.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:07 PM

Oh .. look!! It appears that a French Abbatoir is culpable: A French minister says the French meat wholesaler Spanghero is to blame for fraudulently labeling horsemeat as beef.

source: http://news.yahoo.co...7--finance.html


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:12 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 14 February 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

The fast food "chicken" chains has been at it for years. Someone should have told these Turkish and Asian owners that we do not eat rat here!!!

before someone jumps on that....were I lived every single privately owned fast food chicken shop were owned by the Turkish and Asian people, and we had a rat fest surge there a few years back.

Did the Rats have Pet Passports ? OK, NO is the answer. I get really annoyed when I think that I am buying Chicken, but get Rat. I want to know that the protein I eat is safe.


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 14 February 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Oh .. look!! It appears that a French Abbatoir is culpable: A French minister says the French meat wholesaler Spanghero is to blame for fraudulently labeling horsemeat as beef.

source: http://news.yahoo.co...7--finance.html
Oh FCOL!!! the French are blaming the English, the English are blaming the French, The Cypriot guy hasn`t even been mentioned yet.....the one who is also involved in this whole fiasco....and us???? what have we got to eat while the beef/horse is under investigation?   rats!

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 14 February 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

Did the Rats have Pet Passports ? OK, NO is the answer. I get really annoyed when I think that I am buying Chicken, but get Rat. I want to know that the protein I eat is safe.
The  rats had more right to be here than the people who were skinning them, breading then and then frying them up as chicken.

Will google the protein in rat meat for you, what time were you thinking of going to  Kubilay`s Chicken Fried take away? will try and get it before you go.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 14 February 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:


We do not know who to believe. My mum lives in France, they are now blaming the English for selling them drugged horse meat, this could all get quite tricky.
I hope not they test all the British minced beef on our shelves, forget findus, we have our own problems.

Gazza is always in rehab, the Sun said he was dying earlier, Gazza says he knows nothing about that. :whistle:
It's a question of he says,she says now.
So who's consuming the real beef at this moment in time.
It's probably a load of posh people in a posh restaurant.
If you want my honest opinion it would be a cold day in hell if you ever see me near a hamburger again.
I wouldn't even have a medium rare sirloin steak in a mixed grill.
It's funny but while this was going on Macdonalds are trying to freshen up their image.
And it has to be said my experience in a Bury meat market disturbed my nostrils.
The only thing that isn't tarnished by this experience is white meat.

Btw Gazza's a national treasure so I can imagine his fans having a vigil.
I actually posted something verbatim from the Star here about his downward spiral.
Tbh I don't care much for him as a person but he's probably the best midfielder that has worn the Three Lions.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

View PostMichelle, on 14 February 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

I don't have any particular criteria besides how I personally feel.

So whether you eat pig flesh or dog flesh is just a matter of how you feel. That's an honest answer. Ethically though it's indefensible.

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When the economy tanked I heard about the plight of people who couldn't afford to feed their horses and nobody would buy them. I think it would be better if those horses were used for food instead of letting them starve to death. Things change.

All non-human animals have euthanasia available to them, they don't have to starve.

Anyways, you've added weight to my argument that people decide which non-human animals to eat based on gut feelings (excuse the pun) and gustatory sensations. It's completely arbitrary. However, if I took a poll, I bet all these people would say that they don't condone unnecessary pain, suffering and death towards animals. People that live in a modern agricultural society do not need to consume animal flesh to stay healthy, so there's an obvious contradiction there. Most people ignore this moral schizophrenia by consciously blocking it out of their mind. The meat industry is happy to oblige by making sure no one sees what goes on in a slaughterhouse. In fact, in a growing number of states in America, videotaping in a slaughterhouse will get you a prison sentence and the label of "terrorist".  That's how badly the industry and government want to avoid any public attention of where their juicy steaks come from.

With that said, here's a terrorist video.



n.b. this is not halal or kosher slaughter practice, this is just business as usual.

"Whenever people say "We mustn't be sentimental", you can take it they are about to do something cruel. And if they add, "We must be realistic", they mean they are going to make money out of it. These slogans have a long history. After being used to justify slave traders, ruthless industrialists, and contractors who had found the most economically "realistic" method of cleaning chimney was to force a small child to climb it, they now have been passed on, like an heirloom, to the factory farmers." Brigid Brophy

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:47 PM

View Postredhen, on 14 February 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

So whether you eat pig flesh or dog flesh is just a matter of how you feel. That's an honest answer. Ethically though it's indefensible.

All non-human animals have euthanasia available to them, they don't have to starve.


I don't care whether it is indefensible to you.

Full stop on the other point. Don't tell me about euthanasia. I would be willing to bet you have not acquired the shot that vets use to euthanize a pet and administered it yourself, or even been in the same room when it happened. It is still too fresh in my mind to even discuss it at this point, but a gunshot to the head would have been quicker and in my opinion more humane.

Don't expect another response from me on this.


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

All non-human animals have euthanasia available to them, they don't have to starve.


By who?

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

News:
3 men have been arrested with the horse fiasco in ENGLAND. So are none getting arrested anywhere else or are we going to made to look like the only baddies here?

Still watching so will be back.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 14 February 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

All non-human animals have euthanasia available to them, they don't have to starve.


By who?

Obviously I'm not talking about wild/free range animals. I'm talking about animals that are owned by humans. And yes, when I say euthanasia, that includes a gunshot to the head, which is perfectly legal under common law. Letting animals starve to death would be illegal.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:49 AM

View Postredhen, on 14 February 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

Obviously I'm not talking about wild/free range animals. I'm talking about animals that are owned by humans. And yes, when I say euthanasia, that includes a gunshot to the head, which is perfectly legal under common law. Letting animals starve to death would be illegal.

Someone like you infuriates me! What if you lived in a place where it is illegal to own a gun? Even if you had one, could you do it? What about tiny pets...would you shoot a seriously ill mouse, hamster, gerbil or bird or would you do the humane thing and wring it's poor little neck?

The majority of people like you have never spent a lot of time around animals. They don't see the reality of life and death. I've spent my life rescuing animals...some of them you can save and some you can't. You learn to accept it and do what you can. If you can afford the expense to take each and every one of them to the vet more power to you. I've spent thousands of dollars and would be in a lot better place financially if I hadn't.

I am eternally greatful my husband has a big heart and does the things I can't do. It has severely hurt him on several occasions, but it has to be done...one way or the other.

I totally agree, animals of any kind, should be treated more humanely, but you are preaching to the choir here, honey.

Edited by Michelle, 15 February 2013 - 03:52 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

Well its started:
The Compo hunters have got their gloves on and they are ready to come out to play:


A DAD last night told how he was struck down by a crippling horse bug — after eating dodgy Findus beef lasagnes.

Robert Powell, 40, feared he would die during 11 agonising days in hospital after scoffing dozens of the meals — some of which were 100 per cent horse meat.
He was stunned when doctors found an infection in his liver and spine usually caught from horses — which he had no contact with.


http://www.thesun.co...f-lasagnes.html





Don`t worry about the horse in your microwave ready meal pal, its the cancer causing ingredients you want to watch.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.




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