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#121    Shiloh17

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:02 PM

View Postseptic peg, on 12 April 2011 - 08:53 AM, said:

And just to really CLARIFY a little point made by others, in the Fake or Fiction recreation...when they suspended a puppet from a wire, it was done "this side" of the tree on clear ground, the vid however, shows the 'night crawlers' walking the path, UNDER  a trees branches. Surely now, tree branches will get in the way of puppetry wires??  OH well back to the drawing board for proponents of that explanation.


Certainly they can hang wires under trees without hitting branches. According to the guys analysis the stickmen aren't even as tall as a rake.
Do these people drive cars so small they won't fit under tree branches as low as a rake? Try again Peg.

Fact is: You yourself not going to let this thread die. Why?
1. Any explanation will be countered by you
2. This thread will die when we all admit it is an alien and no way possible it can be hoaxed.
3. That's not going to happen

I won't respond anymore to this thread. flame away and make fools out of us who refuse to be made fools of. Anything posted on YouTube is REAL, whatever.


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:40 PM

looks like those stilt costumes they wear in parades

looks like those stilt costumes they wear in parades


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:07 PM

View Post:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:, on 12 April 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

Well, it's really odd, but in my opinion, it kinda looks like a hoax. Like some already mentioned, it looks like someone on stilts.

While it's true the "knee" bends backward, if it's just a layer someone made on top of the original footage, then the added sequence may have just been played backwards.

Doing so will result in looking like they are walking down the road with the joint bending backwards instead.

Yeh and thanks for sharing your opinion.. rather than try ram HOAX down my throat as others have, its refreshing!
You know I am not convinced that is a knee 'bending backwards', the image is not distinct enough with recognizable features such as a face or swinging arms that can help me, or anyone even, truly say which direction the 'thing' was traveling and whether it was a walk in a perfect straight line, it seemed to look like while the general movement is forward, there seem to be occasional swings like half turns, but I do see both sides of the coin naturally!  Edit to add, did you read that womans story though, from ten years ago giving the same description? Perfect description of the way this thing walked?

Edited by septic peg, 12 April 2011 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:29 PM

View PostRealm, on 12 April 2011 - 06:02 PM, said:



Well if you wont be checking in again  you wont be reading this so I wont be getting a reply will I? Thats hurt me that has, my heart has broken and Im full of deep pity right now...NOT!

Lets take it a bit at a time eh?

YOU: Certainly they can hang wires under trees without hitting branches. According to the guys analysis the stickmen aren't even as tall as a rake.

AHA, you've not been paying much attention have you sweety, in the original video and on faked or fact, they explain the things, PASSED THRU THE METAL GATE WHICH WASN'T OPEN, so..I bet the metal gate would have buggered up the overhead wires a bit tho don't you?

YOU: Fact is: You yourself not going to let this thread die. Why?

Because out of all the folks who reads it, you plus one other are the only folk requesting that, and I do not show disrespect to other folks post, yelling hoax, let it die. I haven't followed you around other folks posts ready to pull apart you're,.... well, your theories. But I could...

YOU:  1. Any explanation will be countered by you

Not true, any comment on a thread I started I feel duty bound to read... consider.. reply to, and share my opinions in return. After all, I start a thread, and people write back to me in return. Isn't that what debate and forums are all about? Or would you rather some one posts something, it rattles YOU, so you demand it cease? Get real

YOU: 2. This thread will die when we all admit it is an alien and no way possible it can be hoaxed.

Thats only your opinion once again, your reality and not a fact now is it?. Tell me one single thread anywhere, where an alien has been 'proved' in whatever context it was being debated? This thread will die... when and if it does, for many a varied reason, and  for so long as it piques peoples interest and curiosity, it wont. Get used to it please

YOU: I won't respond anymore to this thread. flame away and make fools out of us who refuse to be made fools of.  

I feel a sense of intuition that you may well keep checking this thread.. But if you really wont respond to it, thankyou very much, that is sooo sweet of you! Sincerely.

Almost lastly,  "flame away "....  Well I believe Ive stated many a time in this thread Im no expert on anything, just open minded and curious, Ive also openly stated belittling others for whatever their opinion is...is something I refuse to do, maybe that's got something to do with maturity, or just respect for others Im not sure, perhaps its just a combination of the two?  So you wont be flamed by me ever.

Tho it can be wise to remember "that men who speak sharp words tend to cut their own throats"...


And lastly, you say "and make fools out of us who refuse to be made fools of"...

that works both ways doesn't it? Remember 'you' said that, for its the one opinion we truly can agree on!  And you tube is real yes of course it is, 75% at least of vids being discussed here and other forums are from you tube. But remember the SOURCE of you tube...is from real life and real people.  You tube is simply a sharing medium!  Good Day Sir!

Edited by septic peg, 12 April 2011 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 12:46 AM

SEPTIC PEG = LEGEND!!!  :tu: :tu: :tu:


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:21 AM

View Postseptic peg, on 12 April 2011 - 07:21 AM, said:

One unverified story? But there are 2 vids in differing locations, one from this year, one from 2008, and a 'story' or recounted experience from 10 years ago... did you miss that?
You were referring to that one story in particular, separate from the two videos, and that's how I responded to it. This video doesn't corroborate the first video very well since it's not only after the fact, but the poster outright mentions the Fresno video in his page commentary. That plus his professed prior interest in the paranormal should raise some sort of flag.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:36 AM

View Postseptic peg, on 12 April 2011 - 07:34 AM, said:

Your earlier observation speaks for yourself.

Quote: "The video itself demonstrates he had some means and opportunity"

OK clarify which 'he' you mean? The owner of the cctv?, or the guy doing the analyzing?  For if you mean the cctv guy, then in a neutral view, he was just letting his cam do its job, 24/7 surveillance. Like most if not all cctv is designed for.
I'm referring to the youtube poster of the Yosemite video. Since he (?) appears to be the only presenter who's come forward so far we only have his word for it there even were any other other parties involved and that the video was taken where and how he says.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:53 AM

View Postseptic peg, on 12 April 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

AHA, you've not been paying much attention have you sweety, in the original video and on faked or fact, they explain the things, PASSED THRU THE METAL GATE WHICH WASN'T OPEN, so..I bet the metal gate would have buggered up the overhead wires a bit tho don't you?


I dont remember them saying that the figures passed through the gate. Didnt the videographer say the figures came from the direction of the closed gate, but you couldnt see the gate or the figures that far back. Im just going by what I remember.
I still think the figures move with an obvious marionette motion. The smaller legs seem to be controlled better than the larger figure's legs. I think this would makes sense considering the extra distance from the "hip" to the weighted foot would give a greater range of stride and be harder to control.


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:16 AM

View Postseptic peg, on 12 April 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

Maybe thats the reason why he says he lined up his cam as best he could with the position of the cctv, he doesnt say from the exact same spot as the cctv cam, in my experience, cctv cams are usually placed out of easy reach, so if the cam were higher on a wall, or in a location that he could only get near to, but not exactly line up, the shot will be slightly out of synch!!!

At 0.14 in the analysts video, his text states: "I took a picture as close to the security cam as I could get"...

He does not state from exact elevation and exact location of the cctv cam. He makes this absolutely clear!!  Furthermore, he would HAVE to be using the same type of cam from the exact same location to rec it perfectly. But no doubt his digital movie cam is far superior or at least different in resolution/zoom to a CCTV cam, that should be obvious!!  And a film shot at night and a similar shot by day...yawn....will HAVE to look slightly different... from the amount of light and shadow available to both the cameras lenses!!!
Yet right after saying that, he turned around and deliberately framed the shot and reference as though they're a 1 to 1 comparison, even though there appears to be clear and significant difference in distance.  This isn't just a question of zooming in closer from roughly the same location. The field of view is almost exactly the same. That log didn't just jump up and move several feet forward and to the left. The video and the reference shot are shown lining up the surroundings from two entirely different vantage points at two different distances from the road, then overlain in such a way so as to give the impression they're at exactly the same distance.
Adding the stroller forces your mind into perceiving everything at a given height and helps fool your eye into thinking the two shots are identically placed even though he tells you they aren't. Classic misdirection. Now it's possible he merely miscalculated lining up the shots. Whether intentional or not it creates a false impression of height for the subjects.

Edited by Oniomancer, 13 April 2011 - 04:21 AM.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:27 AM

View PostOniomancer, on 13 April 2011 - 04:16 AM, said:

Yet right after saying that, he turned around and deliberately framed the shot and reference as though they're a 1 to 1 comparison, even though there appears to be clear and significant difference in distance.  This isn't just a question of zooming in closer from roughly the same location. The field of view is almost exactly the same. That log didn't just jump up and move several feet forward and to the left. The video and the reference shot are shown lining up the surroundings from two entirely different vantage points at two different distances from the road, then overlain in such a way so as to give the impression they're at exactly the same distance.
Adding the stroller forces your mind into perceiving everything at a given height and helps fool your eye into thinking the two shots are identically placed even though he tells you they aren't. Classic misdirection. Now it's possible he merely miscalculated lining up the shots. Whether intentional or not it creates a false impression of height for the subjects.

that would mean the creatures are larger than what he said ,and maybe he isn't good at math.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 01:44 AM

I have run this video at least 8 times, expanded it and noticed. very  important issues, the creatures are superimposed, and do not mate with the background, areas are transparent at points on their bodies when they move. and like mentioned they walk like marionettes. with joints like the ankle are counter to weight support. if shot even with an ancient low end camera. the video would be better or even an old camera cellphone. It is I believe a poor superimposition  with low end software. and besides even in still air, plants branches do occasionaly move. I give an nice try who did , but  it still looks like special effects from Starlost.

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Edited by Technognome, 14 April 2011 - 01:46 AM.


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Posted 14 April 2011 - 01:49 AM

I classify these as UVB's. Unidentified Video Blobs. Until someone comes up with a way to get a crystal clear video (and of course that can still be faked of course) of any UVB then that is what they remain. JMO.


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Posted 14 April 2011 - 07:09 AM

i have seen a youtube used on faked or fact and they tried to duplicate the exact same thing. they couldnt find any way to disprove anything from the window


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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:35 PM

Now Sussed totally and thoroughly debunked!

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:37 PM

Now Sussed totally and thoroughly debunked! (See pics)

But without everyone who shouted HOAX actually stating HOW it was a hoax... I investigated myself and Ive got the simple answer. Seems lost of folk misssed the most obvious.... Not by looking at the stickman either

Something with the latest 2011 bid was clearly suspicious, but I was drawn to the memory of the 2008 stick-vid initially...

Then I realised...its the same house in both vids! The door opens same way...coincidence? But having a single black brick to the right of the door?  Its the same man in 2011 vid from 2008 vid, with loss of hair and a moustache in 2011

Same house with same railings....simples!  See pics for yourselves below and the black brick!!!

Or watch the vids key point in time

Go to 1.50m here:    

Then 2m plus here:  


But could have been an intriguing story!

END OF SUBJECT AND THREAD! (At least my bothering with again anyways)!





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