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#46    F3SS

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 09:57 PM

View Postninjadude, on 27 October 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

What you fail to realize is that you have safe logical government socialist roads to drive on. Skies that are linked by government controlled socialist radar with ground markers and landmarks. The military didn't have the area planned so that they could just fire into it. The scenarios you arm chair general would expose more Americans to being killed. Commercial jets into a war zone? No it just doesn't work like that.

*snip* The point was that if civilian aircraft can do something the military could do it better, faster. You're an arm chair general too. You apparently know for a fact exactly what can and can't be done. The difference is that I don't know what could've been done but I highly doubt the answer is nothing.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:00 PM

View Postninjadude, on 27 October 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:



the don't care comment was pointed directly at this. What does using one phrase or another matter to you? (even though it has been proven over and over again that he did)

Wrong. He was speaking in generalities about acts of terrorism.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:57 AM

Senators Corker and Isakson have requested the disclosure of all communications relevant to the security situation in Bengazi.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:59 AM

Can Barry use an Executive Order to seal the records?  Probably.  Will it end his presidency if he does? Yes.

Tigers have the bases loaded one out!

Nice midterms democrats.  As Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:11 AM

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Preach it brother. I bet one of these whiners Romney would get 320 Electoral votes.  I screwed up, it will be more like 350.

That's bold. I like it. I'll put five on it.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:31 AM

View PostSocio, on 26 October 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

Here is a good read on the subject;

http://p.washingtont...zDA7ZuQ.twitter


More to the weapon walking;

http://www.businessi...hadists-2012-10

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The official position is that the US has refused to allow heavy weapons into Syria.

But there's growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

Now

http://en.ria.ru/mli.../176877741.html

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Syrian rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad's regime are now armed with man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) including US-made Stingers, Russia's top military commander said on Wednesday.

Russia has "reliable evidence" that the rebels have the weapons, "including US-made Stingers," but "who delivered them, we need to look into," Army Headquarters General Nikolai Makarov said.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor floating around that Fox News has obtained documents proving Amb Stevens was in Benghazi to run guns to Syria which if true will blow this part of the story wide freaking open.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:57 AM

A new report from the Associated Press demonstrates the lies and prevarications of the Obama administration over the terrorist attack in Benghazi that ended with the murder of our ambassador and three other Americans. According to the AP, which interviewed, Libyan witnesses, this was obviously an organized assault:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/libyan-witnesses-recount-organized-benghazi-attack

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TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with around 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.

The trucks bore the logo of Ansar al-Shariah, a powerful local group of Islamist militants who worked with the municipal government to manage security in Benghazi, the main city in eastern Libya and birthplace of the uprising last year that ousted Moammar Gadhafi after a 42-year dictatorship.

There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam's Prophet Muhammad. But a lawyer passing by the scene said he saw the militants gathering around 20 youths from nearby to chant against the film. Within an hour or so, the assault began, guns blazing as the militants blasted into the compound.

More;

http://www.washingto...e-requests-hel/


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ALLARD: Obama knew about the attack, ignored three requests for help
Cold political play could cost him the election

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Benghazi debacle may yet make Mitt Romney president.
Barely 10 days before the election, the persistent whiff of scandal surrounding Barack Obama exploded into the banner headlines of a cover-up – at least among certain press outlets. Everything changed Friday afternoon with the stunning revelations by Fox News that CIA operatives defending the embattled consulate in Benghazi, Libya, called three times for emergency assistance while the attack was in progress. Each time, they were shamefully turned down. One of those defenders, Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, was apparently able to use a laser designator to pin-point the location of the mortar that eventually killed him. It would have been an easy shot for American pilots had any been ordered to respond. Another new and critical detail: An American drone was overhead transmitting live video of the battle scene below.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:33 PM

One of those defenders, Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, was apparently able to use a laser designator to pin-point the location of the mortar that eventually killed him. It would have been an easy shot for American pilots had any been ordered to respond. Another new and critical detail: An American drone was overhead transmitting live video of the battle scene below.

President Reagan:  Do it!
President Bush 1:   Do it!
President Bush 2:   Do it!
President Clinton:   Do it!
President Obama: Uh...we need more information...such as, uh...who exactly are we taking out, are there any civilians in the area, are our jet fighters going to be put in harms way, uh, is this going to be seen as offensive to the Muslims in the area?  Get back to me with answers to those questions...I'm packing for Vegas, big fundraiser there, but, uh, I'll be in touch via my I Pad...oh and uh, find out what everyone at the UN thinks about taking out the mortars...

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:46 PM

These guys are saying troops could've been on the ground within two hours! Ninjadude tells me otherwise. I'm not sure who's more credible. According to this, even if they didn't make a decision to move in for 4 hours they still could've had guys on the ground by hour 6 with an hour left to kill scumbags and maybe save Tyrone.

http://www.theblaze....-attack-happen/
RETIRED LT. COL.: MY SOURCES SAY OBAMA WAS IN THE ROOM WATCHING BENGHAZI ATTACK HAPPEN
Retired Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said Saturday he has sources saying President Barack Obama was in the room at the White House watching the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya unfold.

Two unarmed U.S. drones were dispatched to the consulate and recorded the final hours of the attack, which killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

“This was in the middle of the business day in Washington, so everybody at the White House, CIA, Pentagon, everybody was watching this go down,” Shaffer said on Fox News’ “Justice with Judge Jeanine.” “According to my sources, yes, [Obama] was one of those in the White House Situation Room in real-time watching this.”



Shaffer served as a senior operations officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency in Afghanistan in 2003 and wrote a book critical of the policies there. The U.S. government purchased the entire print run for $47,000 in an attempt at censorship just before its 2010 publication, claiming it contained classified material.

Shaffer said the question now is what precisely Obama did or didn’t do in the moments he saw the attack unfolding. The CIA reportedly made three urgent requests for military backup that were each denied.

“He, only he, could issue a directive to Secretary of Defense Panetta to do something. That’s the only place it could be done,” Shaffer said.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last week the military did not intervene because they did not have enough information about what was happening on the ground.

Col. David Hunt, a Fox News military analyst, said the military could have had jets in the air within 20 minutes and forces on the ground within two hours.

“The issue is always political with the White House, but the secretary of defense gives the order, has to be approved by the White House, they wouldn’t pull the trigger, and it’s disgraceful,” Hunt said. “We’ve got guys dead.”

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:04 PM

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RETIRED LT. COL.: MY SOURCES SAY OBAMA WAS IN THE ROOM WATCHING BENGHAZI ATTACK HAPPEN

Of course he was...if he wasn't...well, that speaks volumes as well.   Let's just be real for a second (not that you aren't being):  Our Embassy is under attack...and the President doesn't know it?  Please!  Our Embassy is under attack...the President is watching it happen in real time...and does nothing.  Our Embassy is under attack...General Ham tells the President he has a contingent ready to roll...The President tells him to stand down....

What kind of Commander in Chief does that?  Good god people...if we cannot trust the Commander in Chief to do the right thing at the right time....and then he spins, and spins, and spins until our heads are dizzy about a stupid Youtube movie...arresting the maker of the movie...who is still in jail as we speak?

This is the kind of stuff that impeachments and charges of treason are made of....and the left spins, and spins, and keeps quiet...shhh, maybe it will go away...
Guess what?!  IT AIN'T GOIN' AWAY!!!!

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:04 PM

I wonder what this whole song and dance is about, we have the e-mailsreporting the attack and we know that it took the CIA a dayto establish that it was a terrorist attack. And to know that Obama was not in the situation Room all you have to do is read the news, he was in the Illinois Senate at the time.

But imagination for some seem to go further than facts.

Sad if the opposition has nothing but this to attack the incumbent.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:13 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 28 October 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

I wonder what this whole song and dance is about, we have the e-mailsreporting the attack and we know that it took the CIA a dayto establish that it was a terrorist attack. And to know that Obama was not in the situation Room all you have to do is read the news, he was in the Illinois Senate at the time.

But imagination for some seem to go further than facts.

Sad if the opposition has nothing but this to attack the incumbent.
What exactly...Mr. Reporter...is the email link suppose to tell us that we didn't already know?   The facts are that the CIA knew it was a terrorist attack when it was happening....never mind...this is what the press does...spin, spin, spin....except this time:  Oh what a wicked web we weave....

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:15 PM

View Postjoc, on 28 October 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

What exactly...Mr. Reporter...is the email link suppose to tell us that we didn't already know?   The facts are that the CIA knew it was a terrorist attack when it was happening....never mind...this is what the press does...spin, spin, spin....except this time:  Oh what a wicked web we weave....

Nothing that you "did" not know. It is showing some things that you, Sir, despite better knowledge, have been denying for weeks.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 28 October 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Nothing that you "did" not know. It is showing some things that you, Sir, despite better knowledge, have been denying for weeks.
please point it out...I am apparently missing something...

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:32 PM

View Postjoc, on 28 October 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

please point it out...I am apparently missing something...

Lets see, you claim that the white house knew this was a terrorist attack, fact is they did not know it as the CIA did not know that until a day later.

You imply that the White House had something to do with the denial of action of the Delta Force, when all evidence points that this information never got out of the CIA Resident's office.

You claim that there was a drone in the air showing it all directly to Obama in the situation room, when we know that the drone got there 2 hours after the beginning of the attack and Obama was in Illinois (did not know that the situation room was there).

And to round the whole thing up, you present us with a general indicted for corruption (see the corresponding thread on this forum) as King's witness.

Do you think we are all idiots or something?

But as I said in another thread: Very sad that this is all you have to make the case for not reelecting the incumbent, and just reinforces what I have been claiming for quite some time: both parties are broken, time for something new.

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