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[Rlyeh]

missymoo999, on 28 March 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

Yes,it my lack of vaccine knowledge that's the issue here....I'm the one who knows nothing about it .

You're comprehension skills are severely lacking. The article isn't about vaccinations.

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Pealing with laughter......its hysterical to someone that actually has a clue....and there's quite a lot of us in my world

Anyone with a clue would be laughing *at* you.

[Paranoid Android]

missymoo999, on 27 March 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

I dare say everyone will come back with healthy genes,and can all get the shots they so desperately want to gie us.

But here's the thing which I'm not certain you have fully identified yet - according to the article, if everyone comes back with healthy genes the recommendation is that they won't need to be given any shots.  Unless you wish to backtrack your position and say that everyone will be told they have UNHEALTHY genes, in which case vaccination might be suggested, followed by being listed as a priority patient in the event of an actual influenza outbreak (and a priority listing would be useless if EVERYONE was on that list).

Just a thought I wanted to put out there

~ Regards,

[Imaginarynumber1]

Paranoid Android, on 28 March 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

But here's the thing which I'm not certain you have fully identified yet - according to the article, if everyone comes back with healthy genes the recommendation is that they won't need to be given any shots.  Unless you wish to backtrack your position and say that everyone will be told they have UNHEALTHY genes, in which case vaccination might be suggested, followed by being listed as a priority patient in the event of an actual influenza outbreak (and a priority listing would be useless if EVERYONE was on that list).

Just a thought I wanted to put out there

~ Regards,

That's kind of the point I think most of of were trying to get across. Missy didn't even read the article, just saw something about the flu and went on another unsubstantiated rant about vaccines.

[Paracelse]

Heck, never had the flu, never had a flu vaccine either ... I guess I have the formidable anti flu gene  

[Paranoid Android]

Imaginarynumber1, on 28 March 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

That's kind of the point I think most of of were trying to get across. Missy didn't even read the article, just saw something about the flu and went on another unsubstantiated rant about vaccines.

I know, but I thought taking out a very specific claim that missy made and then explicitly pointing out the difference in claims from the article might have helped more than simply saying "the article isn't saying what you think it is, read it and check".  "Read it and see for yourself" is an almost useless technique for helping others gain knowledge, especially if they aren't particularly open to alternatives.  

Know what I mean?

[karmakazi]

Paranoid Android, on 28 March 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

I know, but I thought taking out a very specific claim that missy made and then explicitly pointing out the difference in claims from the article might have helped more than simply saying "the article isn't saying what you think it is, read it and check".  "Read it and see for yourself" is an almost useless technique for helping others gain knowledge, especially if they aren't particularly open to alternatives.  

Know what I mean?

That's what I tried to do, and then Cybele quoted me trying to clarify further but... we were told we are laughable

[Imaginarynumber1]

Paranoid Android, on 28 March 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

I know, but I thought taking out a very specific claim that missy made and then explicitly pointing out the difference in claims from the article might have helped more than simply saying "the article isn't saying what you think it is, read it and check".  "Read it and see for yourself" is an almost useless technique for helping others gain knowledge, especially if they aren't particularly open to alternatives.  

Know what I mean?

Oh I agree completely.
You just have to take count of your audience, however...

[RightInTheStatisticals]

missymoo999, on 28 March 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

Yes,it my lack of vaccine knowledge that's the issue here....I'm the one who knows nothing about it .


Pealing with laughter......its hysterical to someone that actually has a clue....and there's quite a lot of us in my world

As has been pointed out, the article is about genes, only giving cursory implications that less vaccinations might be possible due to this find. Please cite how this article is otherwise.

As a side note, since your are apparently 'IN THE KNOW', please explain your extensive knowledge in the subject and how you are qualified to to make your statements so we can get a 'clue'.

I'm tempted to blame your arrogance on ignorance, but i'll wait until you explain yourself before passing judgement

EDIT: Ahh I understand now, just read your most recent blog post. So it's actually willful ignorance ...

Edited by RightInTheStatisticals, 28 March 2012 - 08:51 PM.

[FurthurBB]

RightInTheStatisticals, on 28 March 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

As has been pointed out, the article is about genes, only giving cursory implications that less vaccinations might be possible due to this find. Please cite how this article is otherwise.

As a side note, since your are apparently 'IN THE KNOW', please explain your extensive knowledge in the subject and how you are qualified to to make your statements so we can get a 'clue'.

I'm tempted to blame your arrogance on ignorance, but i'll wait until you explain yourself before passing judgement

EDIT: Ahh I understand now, just read your most recent blog post. So it's actually willful ignorance ...

OMG!  I had to read it too after reading your post.  I have never laughed so hard in all my life.  I shouldn't laugh because it just gets sadder and sadder, but truthfully I am hoping it is really a teenager.  That would not be as sad.

[Cybele]

FurthurBB, on 29 March 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

OMG!  I had to read it too after reading your post.  I have never laughed so hard in all my life.  I shouldn't laugh because it just gets sadder and sadder, but truthfully I am hoping it is really a teenager.  That would not be as sad.

You're right, it's not laughable. People like that pose a danger to public health.

Edited by Cybele, 29 March 2012 - 12:55 AM.

[Stellar]

but I think I know too much to the contrary


There, fixed that sentence for ya

**QUOTES are for quoting, not for editing.**

Edited by aquatus1, 29 March 2012 - 08:23 AM.

[Paracelse]

So were is that chat about genes and their usefulness with the flu?

[aquatus1]

**There is no purpose served in laughing at members after they have decided to leave.  Back on topic.**

[karmakazi]

Paracelse, on 29 March 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

So were is that chat about genes and their usefulness with the flu?

So anyway, I think it's cool because I've always found the flu vaccine to be unnecessary (for myself) and I feel that if a person doesn't need a vaccination then getting it is just a waste, especially when there is talk about a "rush" for vaccinations and them potentially running out.   If this gene test became widespread, most people who get it could rest easy knowing that they are unlikely to be killed by the flu so they wouldn't need a vaccine.  Those that are in the "danger zone"  (been watching a lot of Archer lately)  would know to get the vaccine if they are concerned about it and stay away from those who are ill, when possible.

If anything, it really should calm the panic when flu season is approaching and that makes me happy

Edited by karmakazi, 29 March 2012 - 10:07 AM.

[Paracelse]

karmakazi, on 29 March 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

So anyway, I think it's cool because I've always found the flu vaccine to be unnecessary (for myself) and I feel that if a person doesn't need a vaccination then getting it is just a waste, especially when there is talk about a "rush" for vaccinations and them potentially running out.   If this gene test became widespread, most people who get it could rest easy knowing that they are unlikely to be killed by the flu so they wouldn't need a vaccine.  Those that are in the "danger zone"  (been watching a lot of Archer lately)  would know to get the vaccine if they are concerned about it and stay away from those who are ill, when possible.

If anything, it really should calm the panic when flu season is approaching and that makes me happy

As mentioned before never had the flu, never had a vaccine either.