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#1    Uncle Sam

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

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Efforts to limit gun violence and to bring about immigration reform have led to a growing backlash from the extreme right, including the so-called patriot and militia groups, a civil-rights group said Tuesday.

In its latest report, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extreme right-wing and hate groups, said that it had counted 1,360 patriot groups in 2012, up about 7% from the 1,274 active in 2011.

That is also a rise of 813% since 2008, the year before President Obama, the nation’s first elected African American president, took office.

The groups include 321 militias, far more than the movement's previous peak in the 1990s, when militias were inflamed by the 1993 Brady Bill to control guns and the 1994 assault rifle ban, the center said.

“Now, in the wake of the mass murder of 26 children and adults at a Connecticut school and the Obama-led gun control efforts that followed, it seems likely that that growth will pick up speed once again,” the center noted.

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And everyone kept saying they wouldn't label civilian militias as terrorist groups. I saw this coming from a mile away, the government now sees civilian militias designed to protect the constitution as a threat to national security. Basically they are labeling patriot militias as terrorists...

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:01 PM

Years ago they would have called the vigilantes....whats changed?

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 06 March 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Years ago they would have called the vigilantes....whats changed?

The military shots to kill all terrorists if they are labeled so. That includes the law that will allow them to kill terrorists on american soil with drones. They are bundling patriots who protect the constitution with terrorists who use fear and death to control a population...

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:13 PM

How long did they think they were gonna get away with raping the constitution before things like this took place? The government is the threat, this is just a reaction to thier tyranny.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 06 March 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Years ago they would have called the vigilantes....whats changed?

How do you figure that? Militias are not vigilantes. These are people who are preparing for a fight against a government who is waging war on us.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:42 PM

terrorist....  the MAGIC word.    Speak it and you become all powerful

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

This almost reminds me of the second term of Bill Clinton when militias were demonized and prosecuted.

Won't be long, and they will give us another Timothy McVeigh and Murrah Building incident....


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 06 March 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

The military shots to kill all terrorists if they are labeled so. That includes the law that will allow them to kill terrorists on american soil with drones. They are bundling patriots who protect the constitution with terrorists who use fear and death to control a population...

“We are seeing a real and rising threat of domestic terrorism as the number of far-right anti-government groups continues to grow at an astounding pace,

I was referring to people who are not actually far right, but will be called that because they want to protect their homes and families.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 06 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

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And everyone kept saying they wouldn't label civilian militias as terrorist groups. I saw this coming from a mile away, the government now sees civilian militias designed to protect the constitution as a threat to national security. Basically they are labeling patriot militias as terrorists...

Your link doesn't work (at least not on my phone), so can you show me where they even used the word "terrorist"?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostStellar, on 06 March 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Your link doesn't work (at least not on my phone), so can you show me where they even used the word "terrorist"?

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“We are seeing a real and rising threat of domestic terrorism as the number of far-right anti-government groups continues to grow at an astounding pace,” said Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center senior fellow and author of the report. “It is critically important that the country take this threat seriously. The potential for deadly violence is real, and clearly rising.”

Founded in 1971, the center has been the leading watchdog of the extreme right ever since, monitoring a diverse collection of groups that includes neo-Nazis, white nationalists, black separatists, Holocaust deniers and the patriot and militia movement.

In general, the patriot and militia enthusiasts believe that the U.S. government is seeking to disarm them as a first step to destroying personal liberty and then turning the country over to foreigners seeking world domination. LA Times


Edited by Uncle Sam, 06 March 2013 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:33 PM

If they refrain from trying to overthrow the government -- and other things of that flavor -- I think they will be left alone.  Left-wingers are capable of using scare tactics too but adults usually prevail in these matters.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:36 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 06 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

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And everyone kept saying they wouldn't label civilian militias as terrorist groups. I saw this coming from a mile away, the government now sees civilian militias designed to protect the constitution as a threat to national security. Basically they are labeling patriot militias as terrorists...

The left always descend into totalitarianism if not kept in check.

First they'll stop them working, then they'll take away their freedoms and finally treat them as criminals all for not agreeing with social/liberal ideology.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

View PostMr Right Wing, on 06 March 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

The left always descend into totalitarianism if not kept in check.

First they'll stop them working, then they'll take away their freedoms and finally treat them as criminals all for not agreeing with social/liberal ideology.
The same applies to the right.  Just replace "social/liberal" with "conservative."


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:09 PM

And how do we know that militias won't turn on fellow civilians who don't agree with them?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:51 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 06 March 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

Years ago they would have called the vigilantes....whats changed?
What are you talking about??  A vigilante is someone who takes the law into thier own hands acting as judge, jury, and executioner.  A militia group is a paramilitary organization whos existence is protected under the constitution.  I get that you don't understand much about American culture but this should be obvious.





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