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#31    WolfBane

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 04:32 PM

kinda looks a little like Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers lol


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 04:59 PM

View PostLady Kasey, on 20 August 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Brian isn't being arrogant nor insulting. Just because his view on reality is different from yours and obviously something you don't want to be told, he's arrogant and insulting?

Thanks for the kind words but I am arrogant and at times insulting, but for this time, When I said that the original poster is  clutching at straws, he even admited this by his post.

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I know it's probably "nothing" but it's just down from the window in question

As I have mentioned on here before, people who post their findings on UM tend to show their excitement like they found motherload of gold and I respect them for that. The problem is when a logical explanation is given (with evidence of being nothing more than human/machine error), the Stuck it rich poster has just now had found out their gold is nothing more than just useless Iron Pyrite, tend to convince other that it is gold and get defensive and attack or discredit the other person (not stating this thread is it) because they feel like they made a fool of for not knowing it is Iron Pyrite.

As for the original photos with the face...

-=Warning Tech babble incoming=-
Alane, The problem is this, Your photo is in JPG format.  the two basic formats, JPG and JPEG is that are almost always present in every "Save JPEG" dialog are the compression/quality of the image, and the standard/optimized/progressive formats.
Both compression and quality refers to the same parameter but one is the inverse of the other (e.g. in a percentage-based scale 35% compression is equal to 65% quality). Depending of your program of choice you'll find either, but the result is the same: the more compression, the lesser image quality. The proper setting for this parameter depends of the image quality or file size you need/want to obtain, getting the best ratios with 50%-85% of image quality (equivalent to 50%-15% compression).
The standard (baseline) and optimized (baseline optimized) settings provides the same image quality but the optimized format provides a 2%-8% reduction of the image file size, so there is no reason for not use always this setting when not using the progressive format. The progressive format also provides the same quality, but offers an alternate method of displaying the image while it is downloaded, at the cost of a slight increase in the file size.

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Jpgs/Jpegs compress the file picture quality every time you save.

What does that mean? The pixels will change, either blur, alter, change shade of colors or some causes alters the image quality and the way it looks.  If I zoom up to your first photo (on the first post), It looks very different than the 2nd and third as in the shape. It looks more like a cloud than a face and it doesn't look as dark. Now if use my with photoshop and cropped and stretched it then save it, it going to look different to yours, Not a MAJOR different but a noticable difference).

With the compression and alteration of the picture, matrixing and Visual Pareidolia is also at work here. The windows are dark (no blinds drawn) creating a transparent window and with your angle of the photo being taken you are seeing the reflection of the sky and trees. look at the window on the middle left on the top window, You are seeing the reflection of the sky also.

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:23 PM

Brian - if I were clutching( grasping) at straws  - it would have looked something like this: "Hey everyone - this is something! - look at this add'l pic! - I have proven the validity of the face - I'se a genius"

also - I zoom in and out on the original file that I have on different pics and it looks the same to me - I agree about the other reflections. But thanks for taking the time to explain the tech element.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:25 PM

Every time I see this topic title instead of "Saugerties", I see the word "sugartits".


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:37 PM

View Postcoldethyl, on 20 August 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

Every time I see this topic title instead of "Saugerties", I see the word "sugartits".

:lol: , me too!

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostBrian Topp, on 20 August 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

Thanks for the kind words but I am arrogant and at times insulting, but for this time, When I said that the original poster is  clutching at straws, he even admited this by his post.

Then I leave you to it. But by all means, don't overlook the fact that the photos were taken with a cell phone camera, not a real camera.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:09 AM

View PostLady Kasey, on 20 August 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Then I leave you to it. But by all means, don't overlook the fact that the photos were taken with a cell phone camera, not a real camera.
ahhh, the plot thickens.

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:39 PM

View Postcoldethyl, on 20 August 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

Every time I see this topic title instead of "Saugerties", I see the word "sugartits".
Well, now that's a sweet dyslexic moment to have. :whistle:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:41 PM

View PostBiffSplitkins, on 21 August 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Well, now that's a sweet dyslexic moment to have. :whistle:

Not if your name is Gibson.  :)


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 04:24 PM

View PostBiffSplitkins, on 21 August 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Well, now that's a sweet dyslexic moment to have. :whistle:

My bf calls me this sometimes, so I guess that's why my brain sees it.  lol


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 04:36 PM

It just looks like reflections on the glass that very vaguely correspond to some of the features on a face.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:36 PM

View PostArchimedes, on 21 August 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

It just looks like reflections on the glass that very vaguely correspond to some of the features on a face.

Tell me if I understand this.

If we look up in the sky and see faces in clouds, those simply can't be ghosts.

However if we look at the reflections of clouds in a window and see faces. those must be ghosts.

And if we take a picture of those reflections, then they must be considered evidence of the paranormal.


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Posted 22 August 2012 - 05:40 PM

It's weird, isn't it?

People know what pareidola is even if they don't know the word for it.  We all see faces and recognisable shapes in clouds, wood grain, wallpaper patterns, rocks on the beach, etc. but think nothing of it because we know we tend to make out familiar shapes and objects in otherwise random information.

But some people when they see the same phenomenon in reflections in glass, shapes in the woods, etc. in their own photos somehow jump to the conclusion that it isn't the same phenomenon that they see in clouds and wallpaper patterns, it's an actual photo of an actual ghost.

And like a lot of 'evidence' of the paranormal, it lies in questionable quality evidence.  Noisy heavily compressed photos taken with a camera phone that have been resized downward for web use. According to Flickr's statistics, 3 of the 5 most popular cameras used on their website are Digital SLRs.  Where are the noise free 10+ megapixel crisp clean images of ghosts?

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