Harsh86_Patel Posted September 13, 2012 #1 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.newgeology.us/Dinosaur%20bones%20dated%20by%20Carbon-14.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Serenity Posted September 13, 2012 #2 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) No. The oxygen was different than it is today. There's no way humans would have co-existed with dinosaurs. Also I think they would have been on the menu of meat-eaters. Edited September 13, 2012 by Princess Serenity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted September 13, 2012 #3 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) http://www.newgeolog...y Carbon-14.pdf How do they radiocarbon date fossilized bone that contains no carbon?? == EDIT: I see. But scientists also use thermoluminescence to date the rock the bones are found in, and then you don't need carbon. So how does a 30,000 years old animal end up in a millions of years old rock layer? . Edited September 13, 2012 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 13, 2012 #4 Share Posted September 13, 2012 How do they radiocarbon date fossilized bone that contains no carbon?? They used their imagination as with all other creationist yaddah, what else? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted September 13, 2012 #5 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) They used their imagination as with all other creationist yaddah, what else? Well, I edited my post because I read the pdf a bit too fast. I need to check those references at the end of the article. That is, those that link to scientific papers. . Edited September 13, 2012 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted September 13, 2012 #6 Share Posted September 13, 2012 This the reference at the beginning of the pdf: http://www.dinosaurc14ages.com/carbondating.htm And I meant the references at the end of that webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 13, 2012 #7 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well, I edited my post because I read the pdf a bit too fast. I need to check those references at the end of the article. That is, those that link to scientific papers. . Even if, radiocarbon dating is unreliable with samples over 62,000 years, by then dinos were fossil already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 13, 2012 Author #8 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.worldbydesign.org/research/c14dating/datingdinosaurs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 13, 2012 Author #9 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 13, 2012 Author #10 Share Posted September 13, 2012 potassium argon dating is highly erroneous and inaccurate and stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 13, 2012 #11 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.worldbyde...gdinosaurs.html http://www.newgeolog...entation32.html Nobody doubts that you will get some boolcrappy results trying to date objects out of the reliability window. If something has been dead for 30 days you are capable of detecting it quite well with your nose, if its been dead 300 years you will have a problem smelling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted September 13, 2012 #12 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) If modern humans had lived at the same time as the dinosaurs, humans would have gone the way of the dinosaurs. And we would have found more than just same vague human-looking tracks crossing dinosaur tracks, we would have found fossilized human remains in the same layers as where the dinosaur bones were found. And if humans lived back then, so did all the present mammals and other animals. Elephants and hippos would soon have been whiped out by T-Rex and his family. . Edited September 13, 2012 by Abramelin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted September 13, 2012 #13 Share Posted September 13, 2012 It's a little silly to think about, especially in the way we view evolution. I'm gonna answer no on this one until we find a human and velociraptor struggle. And as Abramelin pointed out, there's little to no actual evidence for the idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mule Posted September 13, 2012 #14 Share Posted September 13, 2012 If modern humans had lived at the same time as the dinosaurs, humans would have gone the way of the dinosaurs. And we would have found more than just same vague human-looking tracks crossing dinosaur tracks, we would have found fossilized human remains in the same layers as where the dinosaur bones were found. And if humans lived back then, so did all the present mammals and other animals. Elephants and hippos would soon have been whiped out by T-Rex and his family. . And your name would be Abramelrock and Id be Mulestone... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 13, 2012 #15 Share Posted September 13, 2012 And your name would be Abramelrock and Id be Mulestone... and we all would listen to RockElvis on the parrotophone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonewolf85 Posted September 13, 2012 #16 Share Posted September 13, 2012 If I am correct, birds are the evolved form of the original feathered dinosaurs a.k.a. the theropod dinosaurs. Hence, man and dinos co-exist even today! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted September 13, 2012 #17 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.worldbyde...gdinosaurs.html http://www.newgeolog...entation32.html Sorry but creationist websites are highly unreliable where impartiality and critical thinking are concerned IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 13, 2012 #18 Share Posted September 13, 2012 If I am correct, birds are the evolved form of the original feathered dinosaurs a.k.a. the theropod dinosaurs. Hence, man and dinos co-exist even today! yes, but a very different kind of man and a very different kind of Dinosaur, in fact so different that the "man" of the Dinotime walked on all four, was two inches long and mostly hid underground until nightfall. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonewolf85 Posted September 13, 2012 #19 Share Posted September 13, 2012 yes, but a very different kind of man and a very different kind of Dinosaur, in fact so different that the "man" of the Dinotime walked on all four, was two inches long and mostly hid underground until nightfall. Yeah, that may be so... But I wouldn't know that, I am a wolf, remember? My ancestors used to have the Flintstones and their pet, Dino for breakfast, not study their biology! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted September 13, 2012 #20 Share Posted September 13, 2012 ... Theory of evolution indeed have holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted September 13, 2012 #21 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Theory of evolution indeed have holes. Creationism has far more 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted September 13, 2012 #22 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Creationism has far more On that I can only agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Supertypo Posted September 13, 2012 #23 Share Posted September 13, 2012 On that I can only agree. On a totally OT related issue. The L I love your avater. Martin Mystere and his neanderthalian assisten Java, my favorite comic when I was a teen. Back on topik now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted September 13, 2012 #24 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) On a totally OT related issue. The L I love your avater. Martin Mystere and his neanderthalian assisten Java, my favorite comic when I was a teen. Back on topik now. You know Martin Mystere? Im impressed. Yes it was great comic. Nostalgic avatar to me. I remember careless childhood. Where are you from? Java was from Mongolia. Thats why I like him even more. Edited September 13, 2012 by the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 13, 2012 Author #25 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Nobody doubts that you will get some boolcrappy results trying to date objects out of the reliability window. If something has been dead for 30 days you are capable of detecting it quite well with your nose, if its been dead 300 years you will have a problem smelling it. How do you think they date fossils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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