gods mistake in the bible

[manticoreconfusion]

animals in the garden of eve when we all know that dinosaurs come first

and if god exists why doesnt he help us in life all i get is bad luck and im not a bully or anything

[twpdyp]

What the Bible Says About Instructions for New Believers

1. Seek out a good Bible-believing church and share your decision to follow Christ with the body of believers there. It is very important to have fellowship with other Christians because we all need each other to grow and be encouraged. Especially as a newborn Christian, you will need the support of other Christians around you to help you grow in Him. From the oldest to the youngest of us, we need each other.

"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works. Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching" (Hebrews 10:24-25).

"Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" (Psalm 133:1).

We encourage you to look for a fellowship that loves to worship the Lord and loves each other and the world around them. The greatest commandments are that we love the Lord with all of our heart and love our neighbor as ourselves. It doesn’t matter if you find the biggest church in town or a small home fellowship. The important thing is that you are with others who truly love the Lord and who view the Bible as the inspired Word of God, and who teach its precepts and plan of salvation–and who are pressing on to know more of Him. If you find yourself in a church where no one seems very interested in pursuing God, in knowing Him and His holiness and fullness, as revealed in Scripture, we would suggest that you pray about finding a fellowship where this the case. No church is perfect, and you will find flaws everywhere you go. However, you can tell by the spirit within you if a church is pressing on into the fullness of God. If they are not, you owe it to yourself (and to God) to pray about where HE wants you to be.

The church is not a building or a denomination; rather it is a living Body–the Body of Christ on the earth made up of all the saints/believers throughout history and from every denomination and movement within Christianity. There is only one Head of this Body, and that is Jesus Christ. When you became a Christian, you did not join a church building or a certain minister or movement–you joined Christ Himself.

The Church of Jesus Christ is very large across the earth. However, God has a specific place for you within it. You can be assured that God has not called you into His church without having a place that He has already prepared for you. Ask God what you can do to serve Him. This is an integral part of "growing up in God." God has a special place for you in His body and he longs to use you to lead others to Him and serve His people. He has a plan and purpose for your life. As you ask Him to lead you, He will be faithful to do so.

2. Be baptized in water. This commandment has caused some confusion and controversy in some circles within the Church. However, if we look objectively at the Scripture, we see some very clear precepts:

A. Baptism is to be done immediately or as soon as possible upon the confession of faith.

"Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost...Then they that gladly received his word were baptized." (Acts 2:37-38, 41).

"And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him." (Acts 8:36-38).

"And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized" (Acts 18:8).

There are many other verses regarding baptism, but for the sake of brevity we have just used a few of them. However, we can see that the early church model for baptism was that it was to be done immediately after confession of faith in Christ.

We can also see from these Scriptures that all those who were baptized volunteered to do so. None were coerced and none were too young to understand what was happening; therefore, baptizing babies is not scriptural. Babies and small children may be dedicated to the Lord in special services; however, this is not a baptism in water. In these examples, baptism is a freewill decision made by those who are old enough to understand what it means. A baptism that is not done out of one’s own desire and decision to follow Christ means very little to the recipient.

B. A second point about baptism is that it is an immersion in water. The word for "baptize" in Greek, is "baptizo." The word means to immerse and to dip into water. And that is what happens to us when we are baptized into Christ. Symbolically we go into the water soiled and stained by sin. We come up out of the water clean and radiant. Baptism demonstrates that we have "died" to our old life and have been raised to a new one in Christ. Our sins, though they were scarlet, have been washed whiter than snow. (Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.")

The water is not anything–it is only a symbol–but the Lord often gives us symbols to illustrate a spiritual truth. The best way to partake of the spiritual promises of these symbols is to follow the outward method in the manner by which they are set out in Scripture. This honors the Lord and helps us to understand what we are really doing. Like every other ordinance in scripture, baptism is a parable. As we act it out in a physical manner, it becomes reality to our inner man. To learn more about baptism, please visit this link: http://www.bible.com/answers/awbaptiz.html

3. Pray everyday. Prayer is the ability to communicate on a personal level with the Creator of the Universe. What an amazing privilege and opportunity! God will hear the prayers of anyone who calls on Him in sincerity and truth. However, once we believe in Jesus, we are given special access to God the Father, Himself, through the blood and Name of Jesus. This is a restoration of all that man lost as a result of sin. Our sins have separated us from Him–but in Christ not only is there forgiveness, but there is also restoration. In Him we are a new creation.

When Jesus cried out from the cross, "It is finished!" the veil in the Temple that separated the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place (where the Presence of God dwelled) was supernaturally ripped from the top to the bottom by God Himself! Now, through Christ, we have the awesome privilege of coming before God Himself. We no longer have to go to Him through a priest–now we can go to Him ourselves through the priestly ministry of Jesus Christ! We no longer need to shrink back from God in our sins–we can be cleansed through Christ and come before Him with a clean conscience and confidence. Now, we no longer need to cry that God does not speak to us–instead, we can speak with Him and tune our ears expectantly to hear from Him.

How should we pray? Just speak to God from your heart. He already knows your needs and worries and thoughts, but when we speak them to Him, we are inviting Him to come into the midst of them and bring us the answers that we need. We should daily ask God for His guidance and wisdom and the power to lead the overcoming Christian life. Confess your sins to Him quickly, and never fail to give Him thanks for all of His blessings to you.

Reading the Psalms and other recorded prayers in the Bible is a good way to learn how to pray. David and the other psalmists were very honest before the Lord in their prayers, but through their prayers they always found fresh hope and encouragement in the Lord. These prayers were recorded in the Bible to speak to us today.

Prayer is a conversation. On earth, we never speak continually to someone who never talks back. So it is with God. When we pray, we can expect to hear back from Him. The main way that we can learn to hear the voice of God, is by knowing Him! And the best way to know Him is by studying His Word–the Bible. If you would like to study some of the Bible verses about prayer, please visit our Prayer Room: http://www.bibleprayerroom.com

4. Read your Bible every day. As we stated above, the best way to begin to know God is to read about Him. Find out what He likes and what He doesn’t like. Find out how He speaks and discover the desires in His heart. All of this is recorded in the Bible.

If you are new to the Bible, we recommend that you begin in the New Testament. You should read at least one of the four Gospels first, either Matthew, Mark, Luke, and/or John. Then begin to read other books in the New Testament. You can read them in order if you would like, but it is not necessary. As you read, ask God to make His word alive and real to you. Ask Him to speak to you through His Word. Tell Him you want to know Jesus, and ask for the spirit of revelation to rest upon you as you read. You can also ask God for a hunger to read His Word, if you are having problems getting in to it. Then, as the Holy Spirit directs you, begin to read the Old Testament.

Some of the books that are good to begin with in the Old Testament, are Genesis and Exodus (two great history books), Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes. Of course, the Lord will show you where is best for you to begin. These are just some suggestions of some of the books that were easiest for us to read and absorb at first. A Study Bible with notes is a very valuable tool when you are first beginning to read the Bible.

Don’t worry if you do not understand everything you read at first. Ask the Lord to teach you by His Spirit, for that is the only way that we can understand the Bible. Spirit speaks to spirit. The Holy Spirit will illuminate those things that you need most to hear from Him at this time. If you get confused, don’t give up. Find a good Bible study with other Christians and continue to seek the Lord for understanding. He will be faithful to feed you those words of life that will wash you and strengthen you and encourage you.

Christ Unlimited Ministries offers a Bible Study Program that is available for purchase or free scholarship download through this website. Please visit this page for more information: http://www.bible.com/bs.html

5. Ask for the Holy Spirit Baptism. Another important "key" in our walk with God, is receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This experience is one that should immediately follow conversion experience and baptism in water.

"John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire" (Luke 3:16)

"And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth" (Acts 1:4-5,8).

"While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?" (Acts 10:44-47).

Have you received this gift with evidence of speaking in other tongues? If you haven't, ask God to baptize you in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues and other spiritual gifts to follow (1 Corinthians 12:4-11). These spiritual gifts are supernatural and are given to empower us as believers, and to minister to the world. When you speak in tongues, you are praying over the most important things that need prayer in your life. It is a powerful and important link in your relationship with God. It will empower you to lead an overcoming Christian life. You can receive this gift straight from the Lord, or you can receive it through the laying on of hands from another Christian who speaks in tongues.

For more information about the baptism in the Holy Spirit and Speaking in Tongues, please visit this link: http://www.bible.com/answers/ahsbaptiz.html

6. Further Encouragement

God loves you dearly and has plans to use you for His glory. He wants to use you to be a light to this dark world. Most of all though, He wants you as His dear friend. He died for you, to restore you back to relationship with the Father. Restored relationship with God is WHY Jesus died on the cross. An intimate and faithful relationship with our Lord is the goal of the Christian life–and all ministry should flow from this place. As we keep our love for the Lord first in our heart, He will also fill us with love for others.

Please know that you will face discouragement in your Christian walk from time to time. Sometimes God will seem distant and confusing. Other Christians may let you down, and you may be persecuted. You may be tempted to return to the life that you left behind. These are normal tribulations that all Christians experience. Don’t be discouraged or give up--just keep moving forward, closer to God. Trust Him to carry you when you are weak, and be honest with Him in your prayers. He knows your heart anyway. You can’t keep secrets from Him so it is better to be very open with Him. This will be a strength to your relationship with Him.

When we battle discouragement, it is also important to remember that we need to resist Satan, who comes to accuse us! As we begin to draw closer to God, we enter into a realm of spiritual warfare against the evil god of this world. He will try to whisper lies of condemnation in your ear. He will do everything he can to keep you from reading and believing the Bible. How can we tell the difference between the voice of God and the voice of the Accuser? God’s voice will come to correct us, but there will be love and hope in His voice. When the Devil comes to accuse us, his words only bring despair and loss of hope. Our God is a loving Father, who corrects us because of His great love. The enemy only wants to make us give up and feel that we are past the point of God’s grace. He comes to alienate us from God. But the good news is, he is powerless against the power of God. If you discern that the voice that you have been hearing is not from the Lord, tell that voice to leave in the name of Jesus! Ask God to help you hear His voice and to respond to Him and obey Him.

"Submit yourselves therefore, to God. RESIST the devil and he will flee from you" (James 4:7).

No matter what may come your way, we can promise you that if you continue to walk with the Lord all the days of your life, you will never regret it! He is the most priceless treasure in the entire universe--the glory of a million suns cannot hold a candle to His brilliance. He is everything you have ever wanted, and more. He is the Lover of your soul–the only One who loves and understands you perfectly. He cares about your destiny more than anyone else in the world. And He is completely trustworthy!

It is with great joy and delight that we welcome you to the Family of God! By the power of the Holy Spirit, we bless you in your new life and we declare victory over you. May the will of God prosper in your life and may you find your deepest delights in Him all the days of your life.

Truly, He is all in all! In closing, we join with the prayer of the Apostle Paul for you:

"Ever since I first heard of your strong faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for Christians everywhere, I have never stopped thanking God for you. I pray for you constantly, asking God, the glorious Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, to give you spiritual wisdom and understanding, so that you might grow in your knowledge of God. I pray that your hearts will be flooded with light so that you can understand the wonderful future he has promised to those he called. I want you to realize what a rich and glorious inheritance he has given to his people. I pray that you will begin to understand the incredible greatness of his power for us who believe him. This is the same mighty power that raised Christ from the dead and seated him in the place of honor at God's right hand in the heavenly realms. Now he is far above any ruler or authority or power or leader or anything else in this world or in the world to come. And God has put all things under the authority of Christ, and he gave him this authority for the benefit of the church. And the church is his body; it is filled by Christ, who fills everything everywhere with his presence. (Ephesians 1:15-23 NLT).

In His love,

Bud & Betty Miller

and all of us at Christ Unlimited Ministrieshttp://www.bible.com/answers/abelieve.html

Edit- Added link from prior double post.

Use the edit button instead of double posting.

-UA

Edited December 6, 2004 by UniversalAbsurdity

[manticoreconfusion]

youve just made me more convinced that the bible is a lie

and you didnt need to post like the whole bible on here

[twpdyp]

manticoreconfusion Posted Today, 03:59 PM

  youve just made me more convinced that the bible is a lie

and you didnt need to post like the whole bible on here

And just how did I do that?

It was not the whole bible.

[manticoreconfusion]

1 u just have

and 2 you dont understand sarcasm

[Jesus_Freak]

it's called the garden of eden... not the garden of eve.... eve was adam's wife, who lived in the garden of eden with him.

well, we dont "know" that dinosaurs came first... many many many scientists believe they came first, because they have carbon dating. but carbon dating, in fact, is incorrect.

and the reason you have "bad luck" even though you are not a "bully or anything" is probably because you sin, as all humans do. Everyone has highs and lows. lows are when God punishes us for our sins. being a bully is not the only bad thing you can do...

oh, and about that being the whole bible, even though it was sarcasm, there are more verses in the bible than there are words in that article.

Edited December 4, 2004 by Jesus_Freak

[manticoreconfusion]

well there are other mistakes in the bible

whos the auother how do we know tthe bible isnt just a story how did it come into being no i dont listen in relious studies class

and does ANY1 know sarcasm

Edited December 4, 2004 by manticoreconfusion

[scipherel]

animals in the garden of eve when we all know that dinosaurs come first

and if god exists why doesnt he help us in life all i get is bad luck and im not a bully or anything

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I was like you before. (a very good person)

But i mastered the arts of patience.

I said to myself why should i be angry on something?

Could i train this brain to practice being cool all the time?

Do i have to understand them because i understand more than them?

If you can do this, you will see that no words could affect you because you understand the best.

And try also reading books about the Masters.

Like Kahlil Gibran, Krisnamurti etc. it will help you conquer your brain.

Forget about bad luck (coincidence happen a dozen times)

If you always think about bad luck, you are programming your brain into negative.

[manticoreconfusion]

what plz translate that so i can understand

[Jesus_Freak]

there is no one author of the Bible... there are many authors of many books, that are put together to form the Bible... the time it took to write the Bible spans hundreds of years...

[manticoreconfusion]

how do we kow that some guys got togerther and made the bible as a hoax

if all this is true it should pass on through tudor times and we would actully know

[Hotoke]

how do we kow that some guys got togerther and made the bible as a hoax

if all this is true it should pass on through tudor times and we would actully know

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we dont. We assume that what other people say is true

Edited December 4, 2004 by Hotoke

[scipherel]

      what plz translate that so i can understand

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mmmmm....i mean to say in simple words not to angry all the time because its very hard to understand things when you're angry.

If you read the Bible, just read it like ordinary books.

If you keep on reading then you learn something.

If you start reading on Genesis it will confused you like me when i was boy.

Its better to read something that will benefit your understanding.

Because studying the Bible for 40 years was not enough and maybe the world already end and your not yet finished.

It is best to pick the one that Jesus say.

Forget everything on the Bible except Jesus teachings.

Thats the only essence in there.

Hope you understand me.

[Insight]

animals in the garden of eve when we all know that dinosaurs come first

and if god exists why doesnt he help us in life all i get is bad luck and im not a bully or anything

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*laughs* this is a mistake of man, not God. God does day in the bible that he created dinosaurs as well as all beasts that walk the earth. Why doesn't God help us when we are being bullied? You have to account for the existance of Lucifer as well, God's enemy. When we sin, we seperate ourselves from God. This gives Lucifer power over our lives. It is lucifer who wants us to suffer. And God who wants to be close to us, so he can prevent our suffering.

Good question you asked though.

[Insight]

how do we kow that some guys got togerther and made the bible as a hoax

if all this is true it should pass on through tudor times and we would actully know

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It's sad that you believe everything your school tells you. The school system, and the whole world, is manipulated by Lucifer. He is the prince of our world.

[Stellar]

how do we kow that some guys got togerther and made the bible as a hoax

if all this is true it should pass on through tudor times and we would actully know

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It's sad that you believe everything your school tells you. The school system, and the whole world, is manipulated by Lucifer. He is the prince of our world.

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It's sad that you believe everything the bible tells you. The bible, and all religion, is a tool used to manipulate people by the church.

[theomegacode]

Religion isn't anything forced upon anyone. The church is out there trying to help people (at least I hope). I am a catholic, but I don't really like the catholic religion. Don't get me wrong, I am a christian and I believe in God and Jesus and all that, but i don't have all the same views as the catholic church. I have my views based on what I've read in the bible and other books I've read. And religion isn't anything used to manipulate people, if you choose to have faith in something, it's your choice. I'm trying to figure out how people are manipulated by it.

[koenig212003]

Noooo! Sorry Jesus Freak but lets leave the science up to the scientists. Paleontologists do not use carbon dating. C14 dating is only useful for dating materials 100,000 years or younger. Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and thus other methods (such as potassium-argon) are used to date them. C14 dating is used by anthropologists/archaeologists and is NOT in fact incorrect as you state. Show me where,when, how etc. this method has been shown to be faulty- I'd love to see it. So please don't mention science and the tools that we, as scientists, use if you don't have even a basic understanding of it.

it's called the garden of eden... not the garden of eve.... eve was adam's wife, who lived in the garden of eden with him.

well, we dont "know" that dinosaurs came first... many many many scientists believe they came first, because they have carbon dating. but carbon dating, in fact, is incorrect.

and the reason you have "bad luck" even though you are not a "bully or anything" is probably because you sin, as all humans do. Everyone has highs and lows. lows are when God punishes us for our sins. being a bully is not the only bad thing you can do...

oh, and about that being the whole bible, even though it was sarcasm, there are more verses in the bible than there are words in that article.

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[Jesus_Freak]

well, koenig, thats a battle that has been fought for years... and i really dont want to get started with that because it'll be a back and forth "yes it is" "no it isn't" battle that could go on forever... and i for one belive dinosaurs are less than 100,000 years old... oh well... sorry for not leaving the science to the scientists, but i will be sure to double check what i'm saying extra hard next time... sorry

and TOG, i used to be catholic, and i felt the same way you do... there's a simple answer to your problem.... dont be catholic anymore. find out what you believe, and believe that. your best bet is to go to a variety of churches and see which one best suits you.

[koenig212003]

well, koenig, thats a battle that has been fought for years... and i really dont want to get started with that because it'll be a back and forth "yes it is" "no it isn't" battle that could go on forever... and i for one belive dinosaurs are less than 100,000 years old... oh well... sorry for not leaving the science to the scientists, but i will be sure to double check what i'm saying extra hard next time... sorry

and TOG, i used to be catholic, and i felt the same way you do... there's a simple answer to your problem.... dont be catholic anymore. find out what you believe, and believe that. your best bet is to go to a variety of churches and see which one best suits you.

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Church doesn't suit me. And how the heck did you come to the conclusion that I was Catholic? Or do you mean catholic as in general/broad ideas? And I have no problem for you to attempt to answer. I have already found out what I believe and I don't need the church to tell me what to do or how to live. I attended church for years and read the bible cover to cover many, many times but after receiving a college education (BA and MA-now working on my PhD) and learning more and more I have come to rely on science instead of fantasy.

[Jesus_Freak]

koenig, i was talking to theomegacode.... that's why i put "...and TOG..."

[Stellar]

Does a evil king forgive murder?

He sure does, when it suits him.

First off, if God gives humans free will.

Lol, Im arguing against that very notion in another thread.

Next, GOD DOES HELP US> HE JUST DOES IT IN HIS OWN SPECIAL LITTLE WAY>

Yes, you know... he cures a person of cancer yet doesnt do anything about the 3000+ lives who died cuz some fanatics thought they deserved it.

[koenig212003]

koenig, i was talking to theomegacode.... that's why i put "...and TOG..."

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I wondered what the TOG was for. Sorry my mistake!

[Q-La]

...if god exists why doesnt he help us in life all i get is bad luck and im not a bully or anything

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Belief can change your point of view, attitude and can make things more bearable. Do not expect a kind of trade off of the circumstancial happenings. In fact, as you are talking about the christian God, the bible does not say belief is going to make you life easier, quite the opposite at times indeed.

[Jesus_Freak]

haha, that's quite alright koenig

very true Q-la, the christian life is a life filled to the brim with ridicule, and embarrassment (at times, especially when you're young like me)