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[glorybebe]

The Unseen, on 17 January 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

No Go ahead and say your peace,I was talking about.....never mind it seem I used the wrong words again,Hmmmmm,but you know what,I was just wondering ,Does the USA guns effect your country? if so How,no Really Id like to kow,Maybe it does,maybe I was not looking at the picture right,Are my guns in anyway making you nevous or do they not matter to youand when I say you I mean other country's,I Do know that Mexico is effected from illegal guns and that the cartels there will do anything to get them,I think I see the point here,My bad,your right.Let me here what you think on this matter,If America bans all guns would it affect the other country's or have we been "WIMPED" by them and if so  How. Oh And Im not going anywhere and nethier should you,Forgive my stupid way of thinking.

Being as we are neigbours, yes, US guns do affect our country.  Quite a few years back, there was a jail break and two escapees made their way-ARMED-to the border.  They told the Canadian border guards, who are unarmed, by the way, that they were dead.  One man had the gun barrell held to his head and later told me that he had never been that scared before.  He was off for PTSD.  I moved away and was not sure if he ever went back to work.  The money and time that the Candian government spent trying to track these guys down was enormous, but that is a unimportant compared to the threat of danger every citizen of that town felt until they were both caught.  Do you honestly think that what affects the US doesn't spill past it's borders?  This whole debate scares me, especially when US citizens are so jumped up about their right to 'bear arms' that they think that mentally ill people have a right to have them, too, because no one is going to take their freedom away.  Friggin' freaky IMO.

[acidhead]

glorybebe, on 15 February 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Being as we are neigbours, yes, US guns do affect our country.  Quite a few years back, there was a jail break and two escapees made their way-ARMED-to the border.  They told the Canadian border guards, who are unarmed, by the way, that they were dead.  One man had the gun barrell held to his head and later told me that he had never been that scared before.  He was off for PTSD.  I moved away and was not sure if he ever went back to work.  The money and time that the Candian government spent trying to track these guys down was enormous, but that is a unimportant compared to the threat of danger every citizen of that town felt until they were both caught.  Do you honestly think that what affects the US doesn't spill past it's borders?  This whole debate scares me, especially when US citizens are so jumped up about their right to 'bear arms' that they think that mentally ill people have a right to have them, too, because no one is going to take their freedom away.  Friggin' freaky IMO.

... that came from left field.

[glorybebe]

acidhead, on 15 February 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

... that came from left field.

No, it didn't:

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As soon as a government can tell the people who can and who can't get a gun...

It has been stated many times in different threads that the government cannot tell the US citizens who can and cannot own guns.  I thought that was a huge wide open blanket that covered a whole range of problems.  Look into the thread about the Sandy Hook shooting, that was an eye opening.  Statements and attitudes like that are what the non-Us-citizens are shocked about and why we do not always agree with a lot of postings.

[Thanato]

lone wolf2, on 15 February 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

It isn't the gun that makes a person a killer. Take away the guns and people will use bows and knives.
Your not going to be able to take the guns away from the criminals. Just the law abiding citizens.
Then murder rates will rise.

The Gun doesn't make a person a killer, but it does help in terms of 'courage'. Knives and blunt force objects are very personal. The gun removes, to some degree the personal aspect of killing. All that person does is pull the triger they can do it from a distance and sometimes they dont even need to be seen. With a knife you have to get up close and personal. Do you know why guns replaced bows on the field? It didn't take much time at all to train someone fairly accuratly with a gun, but months to years with a bow.

This topic isnt about taking guns out of law abiding citizens. This topic is about taking guns out of the hands of potentialy dangerous and mentally unfit people's hands.

~Thanato

[aztek]

Thanato, on 15 February 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

The Gun doesn't make a person a killer, but it does help in terms of 'courage'.

it helps , when there is an intent. guns do not have intents, ppl do.

[Capt Amerika]

Am i the only one who finds it odd that the ONLY people NOT in the news causing death to others at the end of a barrel are the rednecks and country hicks everyone likes to make fun of.

[Capt Amerika]

glorybebe, on 15 February 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Being as we are neigbours, yes, US guns do affect our country.  Quite a few years back, there was a jail break and two escapees made their way-ARMED-to the border.  They told the Canadian border guards, who are unarmed, by the way, that they were dead.  One man had the gun barrell held to his head and later told me that he had never been that scared before.  He was off for PTSD.  I moved away and was not sure if he ever went back to work.  The money and time that the Candian government spent trying to track these guys down was enormous, but that is a unimportant compared to the threat of danger every citizen of that town felt until they were both caught.  Do you honestly think that what affects the US doesn't spill past it's borders?  This whole debate scares me, especially when US citizens are so jumped up about their right to 'bear arms' that they think that mentally ill people have a right to have them, too, because no one is going to take their freedom away.  Friggin' freaky IMO.

Arm your border guards.
DUH, Thats just dumb to assume that everyone crossing the border is doing so in good faith.
That not good enough for you?

Build a wall.

Edited by Capt Amerika, 15 February 2013 - 03:22 PM.

[glorybebe]

Capt Amerika, on 15 February 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

Arm your border guards.
DUH, Thats just dumb to assume that everyone crossing the border is doing so in good faith.
That not good enough for you?

Build a wall.

Did I say everyone? No, I didn't.  Getting all snippy because you don't take the time to actually read the post is really rude.  Get off your high horse and actually pay attention to another view.  It may give you an insight to another view even if you don't agree with it.