I understand. I did not understand where he was coming from at first as well, but when I looked closely at what I had taken for mirth, I was rather shocked at the thought and in depth information presented.
With regards to the theodolite cases, in this thread, the reasoning really does appear to be driven by paranoia as opposed to logic.
That sounds very much like war talk exaggerated. Which seems supported by the conclusions drawn at the time by several notable people that the aliens must be coming from Venus and Mars - more a territorial fear.
McLaghlin's UFO wasn't a fireball was it? His evaluations were clearly speculations, he and Clyde Tomanbaugh indeed concluded if they were alien ships that they most likely came from Mars.
LINK <<- Not sure if the link will go to the right page, of not, page 98 states the claim.
Agreed, but again, does not the size indicate a Hessdalen type phenomena?
I can't see that being the case. He specifically refers to and quotes the Koi conclusion offered in part by yourself. If I may, when you stated that Plasmas were discounted, he provided documentation that challenged that conclusion. Namely the Condig report and the Twinning memo, which seem to revolve roughly around the time frame in question. When you brought up Issac Koi's rebuttal, he directed you to a thread where Koi himself offers the same view again over at ATS.
I understand your offence to the death Caricature, as they say it takes all types and mcrom most certainly is a unique personality. But that is a fair call on your behalf I grant. Dark humour is an acquired taste.
I think, and please correct me if I am wrong mcrom, is that the links both state (post #225 mcrom) well after the quote provided in your post that none of the work considered poor makes the subject invalid, it in fact advocates a scientific viewpoint.e.
Even on a preliminary review of its content, numerous severe flaws in the Condign Report can be readily identified.
As stated above, the severe flaws in the Condign Report highlighted below do _not_ mean that the plasma theory (or any other theory) is necessarily wrong, and they certainly do not mean that the claims that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth are true. Publications of such sloppy quality give skepticism a bad name.
and that the evaluations despite the harsh review are being validated today with the QUT Paper, both coming to the same conclusions that conditions created by a fireball ignite atmospheric plasmas. Even ones that last a couple of seconds would make a significant show when traveling at 30 times the speed of a bullet. That is still a great deal of ground covered in a short time, and something we would consider extraordinary.
Edited by psyche101, 04 December 2012 - 12:46 PM.