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[Simbi Laveau]

Carbon monoxide ,is not going to make the OP hear a strange male voice on the phone .Also ,occurrences  would occur all day long.Not just a two hour period in the early morning.

That being said ,install carbon monoxide detectors.Get the gas company to come in and do a reading  ,and go from there  .I don't think this is carbon monoxide ,but I could be wrong.

[Ethanescence]

Just asked her - she has a carbon monoxide detector installed in her room, and it hasn't detected anything.

[WoIverine]

Ethanescence, on 06 November 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

The activity/haunting is occurring right now as I am typing this.

BACKGROUND:
She recently moved house, about two months ago. Her new bedroom is in the basement, a kind of furnace room, with the water heating in the closet. She has been experiencing strange phenomena in the room (and house) ever since she moved in. Things started getting worse two nights ago.

OCCURRENCES:
Include; growling, tapping, exhaling, scratching, waking up with scratches on her body, gargling, feeling of being watched, doors opening, objects being pushed off bookshelves and drawers, light turning on and off, shadows, footsteps outside door, light outside door being blocked, iPod turning on and playing music, camera phone being filled with blank images, television not working, and strange mechanized noises from the water heater that go away when she investigates. She has a pet dog that sometimes sleeps with her, and he has been acting strange and growling at empty air.

Most active times are 2 am - 5 am. 3-4:30 am is the most active.

I know most of this because I speak to her on the phone when it is happening. I have personally heard a male voice and the tapping (the tapping is the most common sound) when I call her late at night. Also, the ipod turning on by itself and blaring music. Lately I have stayed on the phone to her because I am very worried.

Two nights ago we were talking and she got scared to the point where she was speaking very quietly. And then about half an hour later, she started speaking normally. She then told me she had memory loss, for the last hour or so, and she asked about things we had just spoken about as if... she had almost lost her memory of the conversation.

She feels extremely sleep deprived (due to the noises) but also unnaturally so, as if the sleep deprivation is forced on her all at once.

I know I need to convince her to get some investigators to deal with it, but in the meantime what can I suggest to her? What active steps can she take to overcome it, or to try and stop it happening? I want her to sleep normally, and not be scared.

PSYCHOLOGICAL CONTEXT:
The tapping and growling only started two nights ago, but her and her entire family have been experiencing depressing/apathetic thoughts. These include thoughts she would never have normally, like self-harm or wanting to binge drink alcohol (even though she's never had an interest in alcohol before). There are many more instances/thoughts, some more harmful, and I am willing to go into more detail if anyone needs it because I want to help her.

About a month ago when she first moved, she said she had a half-dream where she felt extreme hatred towards me and our relationship, out of nowhere, to the point where she wanted to smash her phone so I couldn't contact her. She said the thoughts weren't her own, but we both were confused. We explained it away as an anxiety dream, and it didn't worry me because I knew she didn't actually feel that way (either consciously or subconsciously).

SUGGESTIONS TO HER:
I have told her not to speak to it, try to ignore it, and do not actively engage with it (taunting it, etc). She was taunting it earlier, out of frustration, asking it to pull her hair. I told her to stop doing that, and she did. But about an hour later, she had a nightmare about being dragged by her hair.

NIGHTMARES:
She has nightmares nearly every night now. Sometimes I have listened on the phone as she is falling asleep, and she starts crying out. I wake her up and ask what is wrong, and they are typically violent dreams (where I am being hurt by a stranger whose face changes, or she is fatally hurting herself and feeling apathy/no emotions about it).

Two nights ago when the activity started for real (rather than just all the bad thoughts she has been having) she had a dream about the "demon". It was in the closet, in the corner, on all fours, and spoke to her. It said not to ask it to pull her hair again, or it would kill her, or words to that effect. It had the body of a sickly dog (which she had nightmares about a week earlier) but a withered male face. In the dream prior, a cardboard box was being dragged around her house on its own, and she had bad feelings about it. I don't know if this last point is connected.

Please help! I have tried researching online, but there isn't many practical guides as to warding off something demonic that I found.

Book or site recommendations, personal experience, anything is appreciated so much. Thank you.

You can beat it, as Samuel L Jackson would say, you just have to be more of a bad*** m***** ****** than it is.

[Mabon]

Good to hear that her family has a CO detector!

Hearing voices on the phone doesn't have to be paranormal but bleed through. And since other electronics in the home were/are reacting off there could be trouble with the wiring. Lights going on/off. Or that simply could be brown outs on the main line.

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The main problem affecting telephones is audio rectification. Do you sometimes feel like you’re not alone on your telephone line? Do you hear unwanted voices or sounds?
This disruption can affect the telephone or various other electronic instruments in the home. Sometimes, when a piece of equipment is surrounded by an intense radio signal, it can act as a radio receiver. This phenomenon, known as audio rectification, is caused by the telephone, and such equipment must be modified or repaired.
If your telephone is picking up radio signals, check to see if there is a broadcast or two-way radio station transmitter antenna in the area. Inform the station operator about the problem. He/she will likely cooperate to help you eliminate the interference.

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Cordless telephones, which continue to grow in popularity, are actually radio transmitters/receivers that are subject to interference. In addition to picking up unwanted radio signals, the cordless telephone may also pick up transmissions from other cordless telephones, baby monitors or portable intercoms using the same frequency.

http://www.selfhelpa...a-telephone.php

Regards,
Mabon.

[JGirl]

Ethanescence, on 06 November 2012 - 11:29 PM, said:

In response to everyone who may think it might only be carbon monoxide poisoning, I found out a way to record our Skype conversations. This was around 5:30 am.

My microphone is muted, and I was at my computer. She had the phone next to her in bed. She only speaks once saying "shhh" there are three weird sounds, two small bangs, and a lot of shuffling.

Reception is not the best, but when I amplify it in Audacity and remove background noise, it is pretty clear.

0:20 - Strange sound 1
0:40 - Small bang 1
0:46 - Small bang 2
0:53 - Strange sound 2
1:10 - My girlfriend saying "Shhh"
1:53 - Strange sound 3

Any thoughts?

Tonight I will try and record the tappings that occur around 2-3:30 am.

Audacity image: http://www.fileden.c...ndsaudacity.png

Sound edited (this is the clearest version): http://www.fileden.c...soundedited.wav

Sound original: http://www.fileden.c...undoriginal.wav

Files were too large to upload directly to forums.

it sounds like a microphone under water to me.
i have to say that i am quite skeptical of your story here, and that is putting it mildly.
if in fact your girlfriend is experiencing all this stuff like growling and scratching at her self and having hallucinations why the hell has she not seen a professional?
why is this always the work of demons? yeah perhaps the demon called schizophrenia. or maybe the demon called storyteller.

[JGirl]

i want to add to my above post:
not just a microphone under water but more specifically it sounds like water running as well, as though a bath tub were filling at the same time.

[Ethanescence]

JGirl, on 07 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

i want to add to my above post:
not just a microphone under water but more specifically it sounds like water running as well, as though a bath tub were filling at the same time.

Yes, listening back, it is very possible that the sound is caused by the water heater.

I appreciate everyone's posts and the alternative explanations, I am looking into them all and suggesting them to her. I am very close to what is happening, so my skepticism isn't really present as it would usually be.

I am normally a very skeptic person - I had no belief in "entities" prior to this week. We are both atheist and normally skeptical and my girlfriend is more skeptical of what is happening than I am (which I feel is a good mindset to be).

However, I still maintain that I have heard activity: the iPod blaring music out of nowhere, at least three times; tappings and knockings in patterns as she lays still in bed; the sound of a thud as objects in the room were pushed to the floor; the sound of a male voice (no men are in the family). In all these instances, the sounds were a distance from the phone, and we were distracted in conversation (or she was silent and not moving).

We didn't speak on the phone late last night, but if the activity continues I will record it and present it here. I will also consider the camera with night vision suggestion.

Edited by Ethanescence, 08 November 2012 - 12:04 AM.

[Mabon]

I hope that you understand that I'm not trying to say to you that you didn't experience/hear something. I am offering suggestions; simple provable and fixable that relate to the issues you've brought up rather than jumping to any conclusion. This is why I suggested that you not label it as anything other than unusual events. That way (in my opinion) you are skeptical and detached and can view it for what it is rather than be influenced toward any conclusion.

You say that both of you are typically skeptical, that's good in my opinion. I'm really glad because if you weren't you may not have checked if the family has a CO detector and if you hadn't and it was a CO leak, the family could have become really ill or died. Skepticism isn't pessimism but a lot of people on the board get the ideas confused.

The knocking and tapping, may be the water heater or the house settling. If you've never been somewhere to hear a water heater, even an electric one, those things are noisy! They gurgle, groan, pop, ping and make a host of noises especially if there is a high mineral content in the water and it settles on the bottom of the heater. This build up is a problem for older water heaters as they can't heat as efficiently but new ones aren't immune to making noises.

The sound of the objects falling can be explained several ways:
Rodents. Yes they can push books and light things off shelves.
Family pets.
Items placed too close to the edge of object they are sitting on and being vibrated off. Depending on the construction of the home and what is on the other side of the wall and does it vibrate (washer for example) when it runs. Or is the home close to a highway or busy street?

You admit that you are on the phone late when these things occur, so neither one of you are getting enough sleep. You also admit that you were distracted when you heard some of these things so you really aren't able to identify where the sound came from. Both of you need to try to get some sleep and look at it with a fresh perspective.

Ipods have timers and alarms. Is her Ipod faulty or the alarm accidentally getting set while in her pocket or purse?

Again moving can be stressful. Even when you are looking forward to the move.Did the family want to move? Did she? This is a new house, lots to do, new noises to get to know etc.

These are things to consider not definitive answers.

If it does continue do record it. Either visually or audio. It can't hurt and may help you identify what is going on.

regards,
Mabon.

[Sakari]

JGirl, on 07 November 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

it sounds like a microphone under water to me.
i have to say that i am quite skeptical of your story here, and that is putting it mildly.
if in fact your girlfriend is experiencing all this stuff like growling and scratching at her self and having hallucinations why the hell has she not seen a professional?
why is this always the work of demons? yeah perhaps the demon called schizophrenia. or maybe the demon called storyteller.

       


Not sure how many more months or years I can keep reading these things...I have cussed out satan himself, begged for something, even tore up a bible with a chainsaw ( I was 15, what can I say ) and have not ween, heard, nor ever thought of demons.

It is so frustrating....


To the OP....

If she has such over whelming evidence, can you have her contact a Psychologist, or the local University, and tell them exactly what you posted here. And let them come in and see for themselves?

Of course, if she says yes to this, we would like to see evidence that any of above was even tried. I could even help get it done if wanted.

[jaskatiaja]

Have you actually experienced any of these occurrences / noises while you are physically at her house? It seems like you have personally experienced them only via phone.
I hope this does not offend you, but are you sure that the male voice and other background sounds you mentioned (like the ipod music etc) weren't actually a real male in the room with her? One that she doesn't want you to know about? This ties in with the supposed feelings of hatred towards you and your relationship, as well as the times when she was attempting to speak quietly to you (didn't want other people in the house to hear, maybe?). Could also explain the sleep deprivation and scratches! If she was caught out in a lie (you hearing the male voice) and wanted to cover herself, this could be her way of doing it (albeit an extreme and bizarre way).
I'm sorry i brought it up, it's a horrible possibility, but you did say you wanted all possible explanations .

[WatchingTheStars]

Here is my advice.

Go to a doctor first. Even if you think nothing is wrong, still go. At least the doctor can check off any signs of illness and help you sleep easier.

I don't know what you're supposed to do to get rid of a demon but LEAVE THE HOUSE ASAP. Someone you care about is getting physically hurt and has been physically hurt and more than one occasion. This is dangerous and she should leave, even if it's only for a little while. Tell her to stay at a hotel for a bit, let her stay with you, just get her out of that house until the problem is fixed.

Then you can do whatever you need to do to get rid of the demon. I don't know how, I'm afraid.

Please be safe and good luck.

[WatchingTheStars]

Sorry for the double post, but I am curious as to why you're getting help from anonymous people on the Internet about something serious.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

MisstreeDove, on 10 November 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Here is my advice.

Go to a doctor first. Even if you think nothing is wrong, still go. At least the doctor can check off any signs of illness and help you sleep easier.

I don't know what you're supposed to do to get rid of a demon but LEAVE THE HOUSE ASAP. Someone you care about is getting physically hurt and has been physically hurt and more than one occasion. This is dangerous and she should leave, even if it's only for a little while. Tell her to stay at a hotel for a bit, let her stay with you, just get her out of that house until the problem is fixed.

Then you can do whatever you need to do to get rid of the demon. I don't know how, I'm afraid.

Please be safe and good luck.

Where does it state that she is being physically harmed more than once ? Do you mean scratches ?

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

MisstreeDove, on 10 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Sorry for the double post, but I am curious as to why you're getting help from anonymous people on the Internet about something serious.

This point is not productive. There could be many reasons as to why a person looks for help online, for anything. It's not a sign of anything unto-right.  With subjects which fall into the unexplained, paranormal, metaphysics, many people simply do not know people around them, who have experienced and have the experience to help.

And a reminder to everyone, this is a discussion board about the unexplained and people are free to post their stories and experiences without it leading to harassment regarding the in's and out's.

[Sakari]

*snip*

Edited by Saru, 10 November 2012 - 05:38 PM.
Thread derailment - stick to the topic being discussed please.