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[seeking8]

As humans we can never be immortal but ain't our souls immortal?

[Armchair Educated]

im under the impression that souls are immortal but i will try and prolong my life as long as possible.

[Rlyeh]

Maybe you can ask one.

[sutemi]

The age old question, most of us must have questioned existence, life, death, etc  at some time. The answer is to look within in your self, through a good meditation with a good teacher. Through this medium one can experience that we are not the body alone and also experience what we really are. Forget the religious stuff soul, heaven, hell, etc. KNOW for yourself by direct experience. What you are is a mystery beyond logic and when you experience the inner self you will have an answer to your question but also have found ‘Inner  Peace’ the greatest gift. As ancient saying goes ’Know thy self’. Have a look at this short 14min film by Jeff Lieberman, its very good. All the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0--_R6xTh

“You are the Universe, expressing itself as a human for a little while”. Eckhart Tolle.

Edited by sutemi, 25 October 2012 - 04:03 PM.

[Philangeli]

Essentially, being human or souls, are inadequate terms,

But, I believe that our current consciousness always survives.

Consciousness is eternal.

The 'I' which you currently experience is true, and whatever reality you experience is true ...
... until you decide to change it.

[AliveInDeath7]

I believe they are. It's different with different people, of course.

[Philangeli]

NikkiAidyn, on 26 October 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

I believe they are. It's different with different people, of course.

There are no different people.

Differences arise within your mind.

[JGirl]

i can't imagine not existing after my body dies, but then again i can't imagine having existed before my body came into this world, so i'm in the wait and see mode i guess.

[Rlyeh]

Philangeli, on 26 October 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

There are no different people.

Differences arise within your mind.

Which makes the person, therefore there are different people.

[Ninhursag]

I think souls are immortal .. They can never cease to exist .. Even when they become one with the Creator again, which is their ultimate goal,  they still continue existing ..

Edit: typo

Edited by Ninhursag, 27 October 2012 - 04:08 PM.

[braveone2u]

Philangeli, on 26 October 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Differences arise within your mind.

"You know as well as I do that the DEAD don't stay interested in us living people for very long. Gradually, gradually, they lose hold of the earth...and the ambitions they had...and the pleasures they had...and the things they suffered...and the people they loved. They get weaned away from earth -- that's the way I put it, weaned away. And they stay here (the Void) while the earth part of 'em  burns away, burns out; and all that time they slowly get indifferent to what's goin' on in Grover's Corners.

They're waitin'. They're waitin' for something that they feel is comin'. Something important, and GREAT. Aren't they waitin' for the eternal part in them to come out clear?

And what's left when memory's gone, and your identity, Mrs. Smith?" THORNTON WILDER'S OUR TOWN

Edited by braveone2u, 27 October 2012 - 09:12 PM.

[Mistydawn]

You have to believe we have souls first. If you believe we have, the world, the Universe is yours.

[joc]

Mistydawn, on 27 October 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

You have to believe we have souls first. If you believe we have, the world, the Universe is yours.

I don't believe we have 'souls'.  But I do believe that the world, the Universe is mine.  

[Philangeli]

braveone2u, on 27 October 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

"You know as well as I do that the DEAD don't stay interested in us living people for very long. Gradually, gradually, they lose hold of the earth...and the ambitions they had...and the pleasures they had...and the things they suffered...and the people they loved. They get weaned away from earth -- that's the way I put it, weaned away. And they stay here (the Void) while the earth part of 'em  burns away, burns out; and all that time they slowly get indifferent to what's goin' on in Grover's Corners.

They're waitin'. They're waitin' for something that they feel is comin'. Something important, and GREAT. Aren't they waitin' for the eternal part in them to come out clear?

And what's left when memory's gone, and your identity, Mrs. Smith?" THORNTON WILDER'S OUR TOWN

Sounds like they're all in Purgatory. Don't worry, Pope Benedict will bust 'em out!

[Philangeli]

Rlyeh, on 27 October 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

Which makes the person, therefore there are different people.

The differences you create are illusory. They just help to bolster a differentiated, dualistic view of reality which gives rise to desire and suffering.