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#166    AsteroidX

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:26 AM

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except they did not. It is NOT our highest law, it does NOT mean that and it is NOT guaranteed forever.

Ill be taking that out with my garbage this week.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:36 AM

View Postninjadude, on 01 February 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:



except they did not. It is NOT our highest law, it does NOT mean that and it is NOT guaranteed forever.
Meant to ask. Do you think Barak Obama thinks the same?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:10 AM

View Postninjadude, on 01 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

no I'm very happy where I live and very happy with our system of government. The problem is YOU'RE NOT. You won't find me resorting to child games asking people to leave. You're an anarchist. I get it.
I'm very happy with our Constitutional Republic and I'm protecting it from people who have no respect for it or are acting like it doesn't exist.   A Constitutional government is a far cry from anarchy.  Sorry try again.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:35 AM

Meanwhile, MSNBC is swaying public opinion by editing the video of the Newton gun hearing. And people talk about FOX news. They are all the same.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:27 AM

Democracies seem to have their own set of problems.  The one thing the theorists have always said is that they have a legitimacy other forms of government lack.  Reading these posts I begin to doubt it.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostMichelle, on 01 February 2013 - 05:35 AM, said:

Meanwhile, MSNBC is swaying public opinion by editing the video of the Newton gun hearing. And people talk about FOX news. They are all the same.
Ah yes. The only news agency that has to hire Industrial Light and Magic to run their news clips. Nah, they couldn't afford that. It's more like they hire the team of National Lampoons.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:25 AM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 01 February 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

What is then?

there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:27 AM

View Postninjadude, on 02 February 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

We need a dislike button.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:32 AM

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there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

I see where you get your information from Ninjadude

http://www.democrati...ress=389x492427


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:56 AM

View PostUncle Sam, on 02 February 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:



We need a dislike button.

I'd be all over that! :)


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:41 AM

View Postninjadude, on 02 February 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.
What is your beef with the constitution? And America? Don't lie. You're hellbent on changing both.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 02 February 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

What is your beef with the constitution? And America? Don't lie. You're hellbent on changing both.

Why is wanting change a bad thing?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:18 AM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 02 February 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

What is your beef with the constitution? And America? Don't lie. You're hellbent on changing both.

I don't have a "beef" with the constitution. Or America. I have a beef with those who LIE about it.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:49 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 27 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

BUT, not against your own government? That's usually called treason at worst, or insurrection at best.

I'm not a constitutional expert, but people in the US believe that armed revolution is a right that was written into the constitution? Really?

Really.  So did the men who put it in the Constitution:

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"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
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So, why should we consider it any differently?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:09 AM

Fortunately, many sheriffs still support our right to keep and bear arms because they recall that they took an oath to defend and obey the Constitution. People, with common sense, blame violent perpetrators, not inanimate weapons, for heinous murders. More gun laws mean nothing. Criminals disobey them. The vast majority of Americans don't fall into that category, and they shouldn't be treated like they do. If an ordinary American got divorced, got fired, played the most violent game, watched the most violent movie, and had an AK or AR on the coffee table in front of them, they wouldn't even seriously think about killing other people. The proposed laws aren't about guns. They're about control.

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