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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:29 PM

View PostEldorado, on 08 March 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

Have you ever considered the priesthood, Hater?  They get plenty and can be as meek as kittens.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

View PostHeartsAreForBreaking, on 10 March 2013 - 07:41 AM, said:

YOTH, some of my best friends going through high school were shy, awkward, and nerdy guys. Yes, I did date one or two, and I've cared for all of them very deeply, just as much as any of my other friends. They sure were a lot nicer than the dime a dozen, abusive jerks I used to date, too.

Proof of everything I said you friendzoned the shy, awkward and nerdy guys who were your so called 'best friends' and patronized them by saying 'I care for you deeply' while you went of with the abusive alpha male jerks who as a woman you are instinctively attracted to!

Nothing else in your post had anything to say to me after that first line and please don't bother replying because as I have already said I don't require any input from females because they are blind maybe deliberately so to their own inherent nature to be attracted to alpha male idiots.

Edited by yearofthehater, 10 March 2013 - 12:47 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:



Nothing else in your post had anything to say to me after that first line and please don't bother replying because as I have already said I don't require any input from females because they are blind maybe deliberately so to their own inherent nature to be attracted to alpha male idiots.

I don't care whether you want input from females on this thread or not, anyone can post on this thread, and they can say what they like within the rules, so stop telling people to stop posting.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostMedium Brown, on 10 March 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

I believe it's my turn to pitch in with this.
I'm one of these omega males too so we are like a mirror image of each other.

Well I read everything you said and am unconvinced and if you are an omega male like me then you know the score so stop trying to defend these women just because you want to win their favour and tell it how it is.

A woman will always choose an aggressively confident and competitive alpha male idiot over a passive omega male like myself who lacks confidence and is socially awkward and if you or anyone else argues with that your arguing with billions of years of evolution and natural selection which still determines which males women choose to procreate with. Yeah nature and survival of the fittest screwed me by making me an omega male but women enforce the survival of the fittest by only selecting alpha males as partners so they are the adherents of social Darwinism.

I wouldn't mind so many people taking exception to my views on women had they not been shaped by my own experiences throughout my entire life I've seen women of all ages go for the confident and competitive males as well as the aggressive and violent males who are downright bullies while the quietly spoken socially awkward males such as myself who lack confidence are ignored and often ridiculed by women and their alpha male lapdogs.

In fact the few times I have ever been noticed by women I've been labelled a 'weirdo' and a 'freak' because I struggle with social interaction and lack confidence which proves that women don't like quiet omega males because we are not socially accepted and therefore threaten and undermine the social conditions that women are dependant upon which is why some women also manipulate alpha males to bully weaker males like myself and if you don't think that's true well I can tell you I've experienced it first hand.

Another simple test to prove that women are instinctively attracted to loud, confident and competitive men over passive, weak and timid thoughtful men like myself is that if you put the average woman in a room alone with two men one an egotistical alpha male who has a casual manner and demeanour the other a quiet. socially awkward male like myself who is bereft of confident, timid and unsure of himself the woman would naturally gravitate toward the alpha male idiot and both would probably condescend the socially awkward male.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:34 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

Well I read everything you said and am unconvinced and if you are an omega male like me then you know the score so stop trying to defend these women just because you want to win their favour and tell it how it is.

A woman will always choose an aggressively confident and competitive alpha male idiot over a passive omega male like myself who lacks confidence and is socially awkward and if you or anyone else argues with that your arguing with billions of years of evolution and natural selection which still determines which males women choose to procreate with. Yeah nature and survival of the fittest screwed me by making me an omega male but women enforce the survival of the fittest by only selecting alpha males as partners so they are the adherents of social Darwinism.

I wouldn't mind so many people taking exception to my views on women had they not been shaped by my own experiences throughout my entire life I've seen women of all ages go for the confident and competitive males as well as the aggressive and violent males who are downright bullies while the quietly spoken socially awkward males such as myself who lack confidence are ignored and often ridiculed by women and their alpha male lapdogs.

In fact the few times I have ever been noticed by women I've been labelled a 'weirdo' and a 'freak' because I struggle with social interaction and lack confidence which proves that women don't like quiet omega males because we are not socially accepted and therefore threaten and undermine the social conditions that women are dependant upon which is why some women also manipulate alpha males to bully weaker males like myself and if you don't think that's true well I can tell you I've experienced it first hand.

Another simple test to prove that women are instinctively attracted to loud, confident and competitive men over passive, weak and timid thoughtful men like myself is that if you put the average woman in a room alone with two men one an egotistical alpha male who has a casual manner and demeanour the other a quiet. socially awkward male like myself who is bereft of confident, timid and unsure of himself the woman would naturally gravitate toward the alpha male idiot and both would probably condescend the socially awkward male.

I can't quite decide if this thread is a wind up, or you just have a very blinkered view on life.

For a start your definitions are all wrong. You have mistaken confidence for arrogance and brashness, they are not the same. I'm very confident in myself, and my place in the world, but i'm one of the quietest people you will meet in real life, i'm not at the centre of things, or making the most noise....I stand back and just observe what's going on....yet confident in who I am and what I do.

Secondly - if ALL women went for the men you describe, since the dawn of creation, then you wouldn't be here yourself now would you - think about it ;)

Thirdly, your lack of experience with women does not make your opinions on why you lack that experience any more relevant then anyone else's, since you lack the experience to know how they might think about certain issues.

Women the world over are not the reason you are single - your attitude, inability to reason with other people's logic, and the fact you refuse to accept you can't generalise about half the planet in the way you do and expect to get anywhere with people.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:55 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:



Well I read everything you said and am unconvinced and if you are an omega male like me then you know the score so stop trying to defend these women just because you want to win their favour and tell it how it is.

A woman will always choose an aggressively confident and competitive alpha male idiot over a passive omega male like myself who lacks confidence and is socially awkward and if you or anyone else argues with that your arguing with billions of years of evolution and natural selection which still determines which males women choose to procreate with. Yeah nature and survival of the fittest screwed me by making me an omega male but women enforce the survival of the fittest by only selecting alpha males as partners so they are the adherents of social Darwinism.

I wouldn't mind so many people taking exception to my views on women had they not been shaped by my own experiences throughout my entire life I've seen women of all ages go for the confident and competitive males as well as the aggressive and violent males who are downright bullies while the quietly spoken socially awkward males such as myself who lack confidence are ignored and often ridiculed by women and their alpha male lapdogs.

In fact the few times I have ever been noticed by women I've been labelled a 'weirdo' and a 'freak' because I struggle with social interaction and lack confidence which proves that women don't like quiet omega males because we are not socially accepted and therefore threaten and undermine the social conditions that women are dependant upon which is why some women also manipulate alpha males to bully weaker males like myself and if you don't think that's true well I can tell you I've experienced it first hand.

Another simple test to prove that women are instinctively attracted to loud, confident and competitive men over passive, weak and timid thoughtful men like myself is that if you put the average woman in a room alone with two men one an egotistical alpha male who has a casual manner and demeanour the other a quiet. socially awkward male like myself who is bereft of confident, timid and unsure of himself the woman would naturally gravitate toward the alpha male idiot and both would probably condescend the socially awkward male.
This is bit of a mouthful from you so I'm going to give it a whirl.
Regardless of what you think I'm not trying to gain Brownie points off women.
I might be in the same situation as you but you still need to respect females.
It dosn't matter what shortcomings you've had with them in the past.
Look at me. I'm resigned to my fate when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex.
Despite that I know women fall for anybody that fulfils their requirements.
The requirements on that CV don't neccesary have to be a knuckle- dragging,uncouth alpha male with a wife- beating shirt.
It could be that some males are actually all sweetness and light but show their true colours after the proposal stage.
But the women were not actively searching this end product.
If I suddenly became a billionaire overnight I'll suddenly become the most eligible bachelor in Middleton.
It dosn't matter how confident you are because I'm sure you'll be an instant stud muffin in the same situation.
But what happens if the alpha male is shooting blanks and your suddenly thrust into the spotlight?
I also can't see the relevance of Darwinism because each person is an individual.
At the end of the day it dosn't matter if your an omega male.
Because all types of sexism is bigotry.
I just wish you havn't been so forthcoming.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

View PostSky Scanner, on 10 March 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

I can't quite decide if this thread is a wind up

I can assure you it isn't.

View PostSky Scanner, on 10 March 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

For a start your definitions are all wrong. You have mistaken confidence for arrogance and brashness, they are not the same.

Maybe to you there not the same but to me they are intrinsically inseparable.

View PostSky Scanner, on 10 March 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Secondly - if ALL women went for the men you describe, since the dawn of creation, then you wouldn't be here yourself now would you - think about it .

Omega males like me are evolutionarily aberrations (we lack competitiveness and self preservation) which is why women and alpha males hate us and why we are often socially rejected and isolated and marginalised in society where all human interaction is based on social Darwinism.

View PostSky Scanner, on 10 March 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Women the world over are not the reason you are single - your attitude, inability to reason with other people's logic, and the fact you refuse to accept you can't generalise about half the planet in the way you do and expect to get anywhere with people.

Well maybe if just one woman had off shown interest in me a quiet and socially awkward male who lacks confidence and is timid, weak and passive instead of ignoring and looking down on me while they give no end of attention to the confident, arrogant and violent idiots then maybe I wouldn't have such a low opinion of women.

Women have got a lot to answer for in ignoring the quiet, polite, and passive omega males like me who lack confidence and giving themselves to the confident, competitive and aggressive idiots. Women invite these sweeping generalisations because they are true and accurate of how the majority of women are based on my own experiences and nothing anyone says can invalidate this.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:22 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

I can assure you it isn't.



Maybe to you there not the same but to me they are intrinsically inseparable.



Omega males like me are evolutionarily aberrations (we lack competitiveness and self preservation) which is why women and alpha males hate us and why we are often socially rejected and isolated and marginalised in society where all human interaction is based on social Darwinism.



Well maybe if just one woman had off shown interest in me a quiet and socially awkward male who lacks confidence and is timid, weak and passive instead of ignoring and looking down on me while they give no end of attention to the confident, arrogant and violent idiots then maybe I wouldn't have such a low opinion of women.

Women have got a lot to answer for in ignoring the quiet, polite, and passive omega males like me who lack confidence and giving themselves to the confident, competitive and aggressive idiots. Women invite these sweeping generalisations because they are true and accurate of how the majority of women are based on my own experiences and nothing anyone says can invalidate this.

Ah I get it now, since you kind of explained it when you said that women hate people like you, and that women have a lot to answer for when it comes to you feeling how you do. Classic victim mentality, you attribute your lack of success with women with character traits you have, then blame women for not liking those traits (lets not even get into your whole immature generalisations again eh), and to reinforce your point and dislike of women, you stick to those traits so you can further blame women for your lack of ability in striking up relationships with the opposite sex, and further play the victim....

I don't think the problem is as you describe...i'd suggest that it's more to do with maturity, and regardless of physical size or personality, most women probably wouldn't want to spend to much time with someone they have to nanny and constantly pander to their insecurities, i'd imagine from the female perspective that is incredibly draining and a pointless endeavour too since your victim mentality would thrive on that kind of attention.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Women have got a lot to answer for in ignoring the quiet, polite, and passive omega males like me who lack confidence and giving themselves to the confident, competitive and aggressive idiots. Women invite these sweeping generalisations because they are true and accurate of how the majority of women are based on my own experiences and nothing anyone says can invalidate this.
This thread is getting silly. You're making a sweeping statement about women based on your own experiences which is fine to a point, but it sounds to me more like sour grapes on your part. You've even said yourself you lack confidence and are quiet. There's nothing wrong with either of those but blaming women for your current situation is ridiculous and you shouldn't be so quick to judge us either, we are not all the same with our preferences whether you like to think so or not.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:08 PM

View PostStill Waters, on 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

This thread is getting silly. You're making a sweeping statement about women based on your own experiences which is fine to a point, but it sounds to me more like sour grapes on your part. You've even said yourself you lack confidence and are quiet. There's nothing wrong with either of those but blaming women for your current situation is ridiculous and you shouldn't be so quick to judge us either, we are not all the same with our preferences whether you like to think so or not.

View PostStill Waters, on 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

This thread is getting silly. You're making a sweeping statement about women based on your own experiences which is fine to a point, but it sounds to me more like sour grapes on your part. You've even said yourself you lack confidence and are quiet. There's nothing wrong with either of those but blaming women for your current situation is ridiculous and you shouldn't be so quick to judge us either, we are not all the same with our preferences whether you like to think so or not.

View PostStill Waters, on 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

This thread is getting silly. You're making a sweeping statement about women based on your own experiences which is fine to a point, but it sounds to me more like sour grapes on your part. You've even said yourself you lack confidence and are quiet. There's nothing wrong with either of those but blaming women for your current situation is ridiculous and you shouldn't be so quick to judge us either, we are not all the same with our preferences whether you like to think so or not.

View PostStill Waters, on 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

This thread is getting silly. You're making a sweeping statement about women based on your own experiences which is fine to a point, but it sounds to me more like sour grapes on your part. You've even said yourself you lack confidence and are quiet. There's nothing wrong with either of those but blaming women for your current situation is ridiculous and you shouldn't be so quick to judge us either, we are not all the same with our preferences whether you like to think so or not.
I have to agree with Stilly on this one. You say qoute:"..nothing anyone says can invalidate this." So what is the point in any woman on Um responding, and if you are going to isolate half the population then I think you should re-think your point.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Women have got a lot to answer for in ignoring the quiet, polite, and passive omega males like me who lack confidence and giving themselves to the confident, competitive and aggressive idiots. Women invite these sweeping generalisations because they are true and accurate of how the majority of women are based on my own experiences and nothing anyone says can invalidate this.
women have NOTHING to answer for especially to you, you deserve nothing for the kind of attitude you display, good luck finding a woman who would ever want to be with someone like you.

View PostStill Waters, on 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

This thread is getting silly. You're making a sweeping statement about women based on your own experiences which is fine to a point, but it sounds to me more like sour grapes on your part. You've even said yourself you lack confidence and are quiet. There's nothing wrong with either of those but blaming women for your current situation is ridiculous and you shouldn't be so quick to judge us either, we are not all the same with our preferences whether you like to think so or not.

the entire thread is silly from his first post and on, im suprised the kind of sexist crap he's been spouting off is even being allowed here.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:


Women have got a lot to answer for in ignoring the quiet, polite, and passive omega males like me who lack confidence and giving themselves to the confident, competitive and aggressive idiots. Women invite these sweeping generalisations because they are true and accurate of how the majority of women are based on my own experiences and nothing anyone says can invalidate this.

You have a lot of nerve. I don't know what you look like or how you appear to people in real life, but you have done nothing to endear yourself to the women here. The only thing you've shown us is how unattractive you are on the inside.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:22 PM

hater seriously and unfortunatly due to your failure to get a woman
you're trying to make it as something wrong with them
while there is nothing wrong in women there is something wrong in you though
am often described as sexist as so i think am safe you can't say am defending them :D

but you're like saying " I can't get honey .. so honey is bad for health "
regardless of all obvious facts that it's not you're claiming on to your opinion which is absurd
sure there is women attracted to " alpha " males just like there is women attracted to " omega " males
just like there is males get attracted to strong willed and stubborn women
and other men attracted to sweet feeble women

you're making it very gerneral based on your " own " experince
without taking other experinces into account and that'll only allow you to see one side of the glass
it's hard to not address you personally when you based your opinion on you as person

personally .. i don't believe there is alpha or omega male
as that can change in any part of the person's life

say when i was young i got picked on .. alittle
mostly i was on the grey zone but i wouldn't consider my self alpha more of omega
after i served in the army and worked out a bit i was different too for the better
now the point is .. in both parts of my life i had just fine realtionship with girls
if you're unhappy with what you are then change it
but don't make silly excuses and make it some one else's fault
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:25 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

Another simple test to prove that women are instinctively attracted to loud, confident and competitive men over passive, weak and timid thoughtful men like myself is that if you put the average woman in a room alone with two men one an egotistical alpha male who has a casual manner and demeanour the other a quiet. socially awkward male like myself who is bereft of confident, timid and unsure of himself the woman would naturally gravitate toward the alpha male idiot and both would probably condescend the socially awkward male.
This whole thing is ridiculous but I'm going to answer to this because I can't stop myself.

If you put me in a room with two men, and one spoke to me (your alpha "idiot") and one didn't, OF COURSE women are going to talk to the one that spoke to them. I would also make an effort to speak to the other man, but if you aren't going to talk to me in the first place, I'm going to get the impression that you'd rather I didn't speak to you at all.

Nice guy and socially awkward aren't the same thing. Socially awkward is socially awkward. You can be a nice, quiet guy, without being socially awkward in the slightest.

I get the feeling anything I say is going to be ignored, but personally I avoid brash, overconfident men, I would try and talk to the quieter guy and see if they had anything interesting to say, you can't just generalise all women. It's your attitude hampering you, not the entire world. Do you ever actually try talking to women? Being "nice" (which I don't think you are) and quiet and never even attempting to engage in conversation isn't going to work.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:36 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 10 March 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

I can assure you it isn't.



Maybe to you there not the same but to me they are intrinsically inseparable.



Omega males like me are evolutionarily aberrations (we lack competitiveness and self preservation) which is why women and alpha males hate us and why we are often socially rejected and isolated and marginalised in society where all human interaction is based on social Darwinism.



Well maybe if just one woman had off shown interest in me a quiet and socially awkward male who lacks confidence and is timid, weak and passive instead of ignoring and looking down on me while they give no end of attention to the confident, arrogant and violent idiots then maybe I wouldn't have such a low opinion of women.

Women have got a lot to answer for in ignoring the quiet, polite, and passive omega males like me who lack confidence and giving themselves to the confident, competitive and aggressive idiots. Women invite these sweeping generalisations because they are true and accurate of how the majority of women are based on my own experiences and nothing anyone says can invalidate this.

These are all points well made,we got to keep the sandwich makers in their place :lol:

Being serious though the way you generalize men and women it is a good thing you are so quiet,because opening your mouth to either with these views you have could leave you open to more than hurt feelings <_<

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