Only 19 years of age, and already one of the best mc's out there, has supposably 'commited suicide' on xmas eve. The weird thing, is that he would talk against the illuminati in most of his lyrics (for example His song, Free The Robots).He was blowing up too quick and was against societys, basicly making himself a target. His last tweet was *the end*. As a conspiracy theorist, i think he was set up , killed , got his phone hacked into and made it seem like he acctually killed himself. The funny thing about this, is that Joey Badass(one of his really close friends from the same group: Pro Era) met Jay-Z about a week before Capital Steez apparently killed himself. A while back I read somewhere, that once u meet and make a deal with Jay-Z, someone really close to you dies (for example: kanye west lost his mother after making music with Jay-z).. sounds a bit too fishy , but correct me if im wrong please so i can edit my topic. What do you think about the whole scenerio?
Edited by killahraay, 31 December 2012 - 10:25 AM.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:44 PM
Rlyeh, on 31 December 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:
Believing some boogeyman is out to get you can't be good for your mental health. He was probably mentally ill.
Well you can say that about Jay-z etc, cause if they are part of anything they are puppets.
But a select elite does control the world, sway politics, control the mass media and owns half of the worlds wealth (controlling the rest of it) that is a fact.
So yeah it's easy to say "there is no Illuminati" but do you deny the fact the world is run by an elite?
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:37 PM
Coffey, on 31 December 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:
But a select elite does control the world, sway politics, control the mass media and owns half of the worlds wealth (controlling the rest of it) that is a fact.
So yeah it's easy to say "there is no Illuminati" but do you deny the fact the world is run by an elite?
It's even easier to blame all your problems on someone else. The excuse starts to wear thin when you conspiracy nutters can't get straight what this group actually does. Apparently they're a bunch of jewish atheist satanists who worship pagan deities, work with aliens, and practice human sacrifice.
Nearly forgot, they're also pedophilic shapeshifting alien reptiles.
Addressing multiple groups or affiliations requires more reliable mental faculties than lumping them all together in some paradoxical "Illuminati".
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:30 PM
Rlyeh, on 01 January 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:
It's even easier to blame all your problems on someone else. The excuse starts to wear thin when you conspiracy nutters can't get straight what this group actually does. Apparently they're a bunch of jewish atheist satanists who worship pagan deities, work with aliens, and practice human sacrifice.
Nearly forgot, they're also pedophilic shapeshifting alien reptiles.
Addressing multiple groups or affiliations requires more reliable mental faculties than lumping them all together in some paradoxical "Illuminati".
Me?
I don't believe int he Illuminati
So nice little insult there.
I also don't believe in any of the BS you just posted so well done on completely avoiding my simple question and having a rant that has nothing to do with me what so ever.
Please answer my question this time though;
Do you deny and elite group of people running the world? (The people who runt he national banking system)
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
Only 19 years of age, and already one of the best mc's out there, has supposably 'commited suicide' on xmas eve. The weird thing, is that he would talk against the illuminati in most of his lyrics (for example His song, Free The Robots).He was blowing up too quick and was against societys, basicly making himself a target. His last tweet was *the end*. As a conspiracy theorist, i think he was set up , killed , got his phone hacked into and made it seem like he acctually killed himself. The funny thing about this, is that Joey Badass(one of his really close friends from the same group: Pro Era) met Jay-Z about a week before Capital Steez apparently killed himself. A while back I read somewhere, that once u meet and make a deal with Jay-Z, someone really close to you dies (for example: kanye west lost his mother after making music with Jay-z).. sounds a bit too fishy , but correct me if im wrong please so i can edit my topic. What do you think about the whole scenerio?
I'm sure the all powerful global elite were just quaking in their shoes over this guy - never heard of him by the way.
But yet much more vocal and well known anti-illuminati types (Alex Jones for example) continue to be alive and well.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:10 AM
The the idea of the illuminati seems kind of silly though. Something about a group of psychopath's and narcissists(You really need to have little to no empathy and be pretty cutthroat to be that successful and have a huge ego to try to run the world) makes it hard to picture them working together in a unified collective (Although smaller groups fighting back and forth for power isn't all that hard to imagine - it's human nature really)
Jay-Z going out and ordering a hit or two doesn't seem that surprising either though. Large amounts of money make people do stupid things. Though being talented also places you closer to crazy in some form, so suicide doesn't seem all that farfetched.
I'd have to pull out a magic 8 ball(Which got try again later btw) or know more details to decide :/
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:44 AM
Rlyeh, on 02 January 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:
The world? No group exists.
Yes they do.
Why did we help Al Qaeda overthrow Gaddafi? (this is proven fact by Al Qaeda's flags flying over Libya now)
Why did we put a central banking system in place the moment we gained control through Al Qaeda?
I don't believe in a bunch of satanist reptilians running the world, but it's not a bad metaphor for the fact a small group does run it.
Do you evne know how a central banking system works? Did you know it as against the American constitution to have a central banking system? Did you knwo that the whole war between the US and UK which led to the US's Independence was because they didn't want a central banking system?
If you didn't know all that then I suggest you educate yourself on it. Cause those are just common historical facts. Not conspiracy theory, just pure hard facts.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:09 PM
Coffey, on 02 January 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:
Yes they do.
Why did we help Al Qaeda overthrow Gaddafi? (this is proven fact by Al Qaeda's flags flying over Libya now)
Why did we put a central banking system in place the moment we gained control through Al Qaeda?
I could have sworn you said the world, no wait you did say the world. News flash, the Al Qaeda, Libya, even the Western world is not the world.
So either you actually mean the world, or you're talking about your own little world of confirmation bias.
If I understand your claim, a group (that's one, not two or three) controls every nation on earth?
Cause those are just common historical facts. Not conspiracy theory, just pure hard facts.
They dont believe in conspiracy theory. They believe in theory of spontaneous events. I think that tell us all. So dont be harsh and cruel with your aproach.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:17 PM
Since the world's countries aren't run in a systematically uniform way - something I would expect to exist or for us to be moving toward if one group of people controlled the world - I'm going to vote for a big fat NO. Illuminati don't exist.
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...do you deny the fact the world is run by an elite?
I think that the biggest effects on world history have been due to individuals, not shadowy groups. Look how different the 20th Century would have been without Princip, Lenin and Hitler. If any group was trying to run the world for their own advantage, I'm sure the actions of those three really affected the plan and could not have been predicted.
"Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true" - Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
In which case it is fortunate that:
"Science is the best defense against believing what we want to" - Ian Stewart (1945- )