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[Sir Wearer of Hats]

zoser, on 29 November 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

They obviously cleared off at some point.  It has to be the case.  My theory is that they were here at a time when the ecology was different; conducive to what they wanted to achieve.  As the cycle of the planet changed over again and no longer sustained their enterprise, they left.  
It's a theory.

Eric and Craig Umland in "Mysteries of the Ancients" suggest much the same thing, except the larger "Maya" force left the Solar System, and are due to come back at the end of the "Long Count" calendar, the existence of which was set up by the stranded Maya to work out which generation of their descendants would be rescued by forces from the homeworld.

[psyche101]

nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Try applying it. Go:

LOL, you certainly are a clown. I apply it every day in my line of work. If resistance did not work in that way, your computer would not work and I would be spared your inane drivel.

[nopeda]

synchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Graham Hancock is dead wrong about that map showing Antartica without ice.  Again that's been debated here and been demostrated as such.

Rontius Finius map, Mercator map and Perry Reese maps are the ones I've heard about. It's doubtful anyone in this froum has somehow debunked them, or whatever...

[nopeda]

synchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

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zoser, on 29 November 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:
Until a rational explanation is found, the AA hypothesis will stand.

Dear God man, do you realize how bass ackwards that thinking is?
That's obsurd logic.
It's not even logic.
It's...
*shuts prior to being banned*

It's the only answer we've got, so it will have to do until a better explanation comes along. So far not only have no better answers showed up, but none have at all including acceptable worse ones afaik.

[nopeda]

Wearer of Hats, on 29 November 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

I'm trying to work out the various explanations for PP:
Aliens did it - why? Was it like some sort of summer home? Why not stay in their (presumably) safer spaceships? It's not sterile, so I can't see it being used as a surgery/laboratory. We The locals did it - how? It'd take precise technology, a lot of time, effort and skill. And to what purpose was the place put? We've dozens of ideas and legends about Stonehenge, but what about PP?
Hoaxers did it - why? Ohh this is the easy one, to make it look like aliens did it.

My guess is if they exist they usually sent remotely controlled beings like drones instead of risking their only existence on this planet, or even within the atmosphere. The greys are probably like bioligical machines. Why do it would be to "show" people for thousands of years that they had been here, in case people stopped believing the stories and carvings the ancients left telling us about them.

[nopeda]

R4z3rsPar4d0x, on 29 November 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

I guess my question would be Is WHY would aliens come here and show ancient man how to do these things.  I mean it makes no sense to me and If there that advanced and needed something from this planet why wouldnt they just take it? Why waste there time teaching and showing us things. It just doesnt make any sense to me

It would if it's a project...well, it might not make sense to you, but it would make sense whether it does to you or not. The real question might be "could" anything make sense to you?

[psyche101]

Wearer of Hats, on 29 November 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Jesus Sodding Christ, we've gone over this a dozen times already...

That is just how he rolls. He is still posing the same nonsensical musing that he posed in his first post in this section that has been corrected at least a dozen times over. He just insults people and forces his opinion. He has a track record of this too, another poster showed he posted the same argument on another forum, and was equally pleasant to the posters there when they expressed patience and tried to explain these principals.
I do not think there is a structured debate, or any intention to learn. I think it's more like those sickos that post nasty remarks on Facebook when personal tragedy occurs.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

Rontius Finius map, Mercator map and Perry Reese maps are the ones I've heard about. It's doubtful anyone in this froum has somehow debunked them, or whatever...

Perry Reese.... PERRY REESE!!!
PIRI REIS.

I find that if we only get our information from the TV we're doomed.

[nopeda]

psyche101, on 29 November 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

To this day nobody believes I did it myself

I don't.

[nopeda]

psyche101, on 29 November 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

That is just how he rolls. He is still posing the same nonsensical musing that he posed in his first post in this section that has been corrected at least a dozen times over.

You STILL can't say which of the five incorrect seeming things you think I should try to believe in nor which one(s) you believe in yourself, only that you don't believe the most correct seeming which is that the carvings were meant to look as they do by the people who carved them. You even agreed with some bullsh*t about the front of a car if I remember right, and I feel confident that I do because I remember mentioning that it was the worst idea yet.

[nopeda]

psyche101, on 29 November 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

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nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:
Try applying it. Go:

LOL, you

Wrong. You lost entirely that time. Try again if you can. Go:

(prediction: he can't even make an attempt to explain what causes resistance to the velocity of light)

[nopeda]

Wearer of Hats, on 29 November 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

A premise that I can understand and accept cognitively, it doesn't however explain how "xts" have such physics defying devices at their command.
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The number of hoaxes in relation to crop circles, and the manner in which mundane man can create them IMO invalidates them as a form of "xts" communication or graffitti.

What physics defying devices are you referring to?
Some of the crop circles that were done in four hours in the dark with no one making noises other people in the area could hear make me believe they may very well not have been done by humans. Also, just as I've never known of people demonstrating how hundred ton rocks can be cut and stacked without the use of wheels, pulleys or steel, I'm not aware of people showing how they can make some of the complex crop circles in the dark in only four hours without making noise. So...

[Arbitran]

nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

What physics defying devices are you referring to?
Some of the crop circles that were done in four hours in the dark with no one making noises other people in the area could hear make me believe they may very well not have been done by humans. Also, just as I've never known of people demonstrating how hundred ton rocks can be cut and stacked without the use of wheels, pulleys or steel, I'm not aware of people showing how they can make some of the complex crop circles in the dark in only four hours without making noise. So...

Tsk, tsk... back to the hundred-ton stone line again? I take it you didn't bother to research any of the references I supplied you...

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

What physics defying devices are you referring to?

I'm referring to some of the well known abilities of "xts" craft, such as stopping on a dime, right angle turns without shedding velocity etc - all of which are impossible under the laws of phsyics.

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Some of the crop circles that were done in four hours in the dark with no one making noises other people in the area could hear make me believe they may very well not have been done by humans.

The CLAIM is that they couldn't have been done in the time supposedly set aside. And many were. And some may not have been done in that time or without the collusion of the owner of the crops.

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I'm not aware of people showing how they can make some of the complex crop circles in the dark in only four hours without making noise. So...

It involves a plank of wood, some string and huge plots of land. If my nieghbour was walking on his garden at midnight I'd not hear that.

[psyche101]

nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

I don't.

And this is constructive how?

Are you referring to belief or understanding? Belief, that would make sense, you believe movies are real, and understanding, you have displayed such is very difficult for you.

Edited by psyche101, 30 November 2012 - 02:23 AM.