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#31    zoser

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:01 PM

Could this be 'Bruce the hoaxer' we dealing with here?

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostPauliEffect, on 24 September 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

You use the expression "psychic MSN chat", it's not like that really. It's more like I'm in a session
you may define as "interactive remote viewing". I see things with my mind's eye, I can move around
and interact with other nonphysical beings, I have a limited telepathic ability, I can sense emotions, etc.
I put a link to my version of the TMI method in an earlier post in this thread.

So in essence it's all a creation of your mind.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
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I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:02 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 26 September 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

So in essence it's all a creation of your mind.

Your question is leading the answer, and I would too have been open to that interpretation,
had I not experienced some physically real things of nonphysical nature.

But to give you an answer you would like, I can say: "yes, it's in your mind." (but perhaps not in the way you think)

At the same time, that answer won't help you much, if you want to know more. So, instead...


If 6 persons do a PE and 4 of these persons have similar stories, similar experiences,
which they tell each other, you will have to ask yourself if something more is happening,
something outside of the mind?

Such similar PE stories will probably not stand the Randi-test or a strict scientific test, but it still
says something. I guess the same problems go for scientists who research shared dreams or aliens?

There are no alien spaceships in museums and no aliens at the Zoo, so any scientist who
claims having seen such things are in the risk of ridicule.
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Nevertheless, to help people who are new to PE, and make it more possible for them to pick up
experiences at the PE site with others, I added the picture. I realize that it looks very naive, but
it's not there to give a perfect image, as things may change from time to time, where you do your PE.

Surroundings may change, specially various details. Large objects may be added or removed,
like a barbecue steak table or garden furnitures.

The problem with PEs, are that many new people can end up in an hour long meditation session,
and then have to mail their PE friends that they "experiences nothing". The picture I provided only
serves the purpose of getting things started. How a PE really appears to anyone, I can't tell in
advance.

But you have to get things rolling, and some are more skilled at doing that when they have a sketch
to fall back on. You can start with imagining yourself at the scene, watching the house, the hedge
and so on. Then you wait and see if anything begins happening. You wait, you are open, and then
go with the flow of events, it should be like being inside a movie, taking part of the actions as they
proceed, doing your part of the work.
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There are actually very few youtube clips of how a TMI imagination session may be conducted,
but there is this one with Kortum and Atwater. Notice that the imagination method is not like an
OBE or lucid dream, you can still talk and make minor movements as long as you don't break
out of the session too much.

When doing a sesson for yourself or as part of a PE, you of course don't need any scientific
equipment like they use in the clip.
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The actual "creation" of the PE surroundings is in my opinion not created by you, if things start rolling
to your mind's eye like scenes in a movie. At the same time, a scientist who only believes in the physical
world may claims that your brain can create full scale visions of real-life settings a million times faster
than you are able to think a single thought.

So I can't truly prove that a PE session is real (outside anyones head), if that was part of you question.

Edited by PauliEffect, 26 September 2012 - 05:03 PM.


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Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:12 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 26 September 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Let me guess, there's also reptilians living in your garden shed.
You are joking, but to give you an answer, no, I've seen no reptilians.

In fact I can't be sure that I've seen any albino aliens either, as they may be creations
of my interpretation of nonphysical beings. The only thing I can say with some certainty
is that I've seen some beings, I think they are alien (meaning that they are not human),
and that I don't think they have visited us physically.

The problem with nonphysical phenomena is that you will always have an Interpreter
overlay, and it's hard to know what's really "the thing in itself".

Your mind will interpret an object or being and then cloak that item with the nearest
closes match from your physical world.

And that may be one of the reasons why there is so much disagreement among
world religions. Their human initiators (Jesus, Buddha, Muhammed, etc) have had
Interpreter overlays of different kinds.


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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

View PostPauliEffect, on 26 September 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

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I don't see rabbit hole on your map. And right above "greys"  I see smiling dolphin with hard on (for some reason arrow points at it)...

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 09:05 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 26 September 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

I don't see rabbit hole on your map. And right above "greys"  I see smiling dolphin with hard on (for some reason arrow points at it)...

It feels strange to get the biggest ridicules on the Internet from a forum of Mysteries, UFOs & aliens.

Besides, I don't think the greys were real aliens. I am more into the direction of thought that
those "greys" were a mere mental construction from guides, to see how I would react to an
alien life form. That was only the first step to figure out how I would react to help someone
completely alien.

Are you in a position where you can talk freely about your thoughts on aliens & UFOs without
any ridicule from your friends, family & teachers? I guess you're still in school of some sort?


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Posted 26 September 2012 - 09:17 PM

You can't blame people not taking you seriuosly, I mean just read your your peddling. I do have two questions for you though. First if these are aliens that are more advanced than us why do they need "our" help to heal one of there own? And second if the alien is "Evil" why the heck would you want to heal him, he's EVIL?!?

Edited by Grey14, 26 September 2012 - 09:17 PM.

"The only thing Needed for the Truimph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:42 PM

View PostGrey14, on 26 September 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

I do have two questions for you though. First if these are aliens that are more advanced than us why do they need "our" help to heal one of there own?

I don't know. The albino aliens are technically more advanced, but I doubt they are emotionally developed.
They show much less emotions than any regular human. Think of them as a huge anthill of Einstein
intelligences. All brain, but not so much different in reactions and emotions compared to our insects.
Perhaps I exaggerate a little, but if you think in that direction you may understand.

Strangely enough they seem more skilled in manipulating nonphysical reality, we know very little.

The albino aliens have a highly effective society. They are very calm beings.

Evolution through a different path.


View PostGrey14, on 26 September 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

And second if the alien is "Evil" why the heck would you want to heal him, he's EVIL?!?

I've already responded to that question, but lets keep the answer simple:

To avoid having it re-incarnate as the worst of the worsts.

If you send it Love before it passes over, chances are that it takes a slightly better path next life,
instead of re-incarnating as our next Adolf Hitler and becoming the president of the US/China/whatever.

It's a very smart being with lots of abilities, but with very little love in its heart.

Only a selfish person would not want to help it.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:25 AM

Good Lord,... "The albino aliens are technically more advanced",..."If you send it Love before it passes over, chances are that it takes a slightly better path next life, instead of re-incarnating as our next Adolf Hitler and becoming the president of the US/China/whatever."


... and you wonder why people are making fun of you!? :rolleyes:

Edited by Hazzard, 27 September 2012 - 09:28 AM.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:33 AM

Hazzard, I think it's a matter of point of view. To make it a rethorical question: At what point in time
would you become belittled if you thought the Earth was flat/spherical?

To further respond to your posts, you give me some difficulties, your brief comments mostly leave
me at a guessing game.

Do you have any POV of the existance of ET visitations on Earth in modern time (post 1900)?
And what is your opinion on the existance of any nonphysical reality/world/universe/you-name-it?


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:25 PM

View PostPauliEffect, on 26 September 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

I don't know. The albino aliens are technically more advanced, but I doubt they are emotionally developed.
They show much less emotions than any regular human. Think of them as a huge anthill of Einstein
intelligences. All brain, but not so much different in reactions and emotions compared to our insects.
Perhaps I exaggerate a little, but if you think in that direction you may understand.

Strangely enough they seem more skilled in manipulating nonphysical reality, we know very little.

The albino aliens have a highly effective society. They are very calm beings.

Evolution through a different path.




I've already responded to that question, but lets keep the answer simple:

To avoid having it re-incarnate as the worst of the worsts.

If you send it Love before it passes over, chances are that it takes a slightly better path next life,
instead of re-incarnating as our next Adolf Hitler and becoming the president of the US/China/whatever.

It's a very smart being with lots of abilities, but with very little love in its heart.

Only a selfish person would not want to help it.

Well time to get off this Crazy train.

"The only thing Needed for the Truimph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:32 PM

Is this map a real physical place or something you imagined?


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:54 PM

View PostPauliEffect, on 27 September 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

Hazzard, I think it's a matter of point of view. To make it a rethorical question: At what point in time
would you become belittled if you thought the Earth was flat/spherical?

Ill answer that one,... I guess that would depend entirely on where you lived. Greece after the 4th centurie BC? The middle East after the iron age? Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC,... the keyword here being empirical grounds. Still, I hear that some people still believe its flat today(!) or even hollow. :santa:


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Do you have any POV of the existance of ET visitations on Earth in modern time (post 1900)?

When it comes to these type of questions I always turn to science. The world wide scientific community says - NO, the evidence for this claim is simply not there.


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And what is your opinion on the existance of any nonphysical reality/world/universe/you-name-it?

If you are thinking about stuff like the "spiritual world" and ESP I would have to say, no, there is no credible evidence of that. I dont think its necessary to bring in the belief in non-physical reality to try and explain everything that is hard to prove or talk about physically.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:14 PM

View PostHazzard, on 27 September 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Ill answer that one,...

When a question is "rethorical", it means that the question has such an obvious answer or by
other reasons is more of an argument, that it's not really meant to be answered. Anyway, thanks
for your answers. You have proven to be much more clear in your responses this time.

View PostRlyeh, on 27 September 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Is this map a real physical place or something you imagined?

It's imagined and should be viewed as a nonphysical place. The "map" is an aid for people
participating in the PE and the map's/sketch's purpose is to help them reach the target PE area.

I got the sketch of the area by nonphysically sensing my surroundings at that place
over several sessions. It should not be viewed as blue print of the area, as that may
easily change because of its volatile nonphysical nature.

The beings (humans, aliens or guides) appearing at the place are in their nonphysical form.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 02:48 PM

View PostPauliEffect, on 27 September 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

It's imagined

No sh%t.

Edited by Sweetpumper, 27 September 2012 - 02:48 PM.

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