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[Hartmut]

Sir David Attenborough is 100% correct.
Only thoroughly greedy and brain dead people can not see the writing on the wall.
It is quite simple:
Anything that in Out of Balance can Not Work.

Edited by Hartmut, 24 January 2013 - 02:11 PM.

[OverSword]

ad hoc, on 24 January 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Yeah. And we've always had the annoying tendency to wait until it hits the fan to react... so I guess it's going to be a question of how deep into hot water we get before we start paddling. lol

In my opinion we're already doing this, it's just difficult to percieve because we are still in our infancy.  The human race is a ponderous.  it's like turning an ocean going tanker, you start the turn miles out to sea because it's difficult to go against your momentum.

[Hasina]

Hartmut, on 24 January 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

Sir David Attenborough is 100% correct.
Only thoroughly greedy and brain dead people can not see the writing on the wall.
It is quite simple:
Anything that in Out of Balance can Not Work.

Tell that to the ecosystems, they're still trying to balance things out, how are they still working? Ever since animals and plants came about, nature hasn't been in balance either, how does it work too?! Probably like magnets, with magic, right?

[questionmark]

Hasina, on 24 January 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Tell that to the ecosystems, they're still trying to balance things out, how are they still working? Ever since animals and plants came about, nature hasn't been in balance either, how does it work too?! Probably like magnets, with magic, right?

I don't think that the statement that nature has not been in balance is quite accurate, were it not it would cease to exist as everything depends on everything. What has not happened so far is that nature was predictable at every stage everywhere. And that is not quite the same as not being balanced.

[seeder]

greypaperman, on 23 January 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Humanity has got to remember that it is just one of billions of different species on this planet and it has no right or entitlement to flourish at the expense of other species or to the detriment of the natural world.

Thats a great thing to say!

[MidKn13ght]

I think we are more of a parasite....

Edited by MidKn13ght, 24 January 2013 - 05:15 PM.

[stevemagegod]

We have War to keep the Population in Check.

[Hasina]

questionmark, on 24 January 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

I don't think that the statement that nature has not been in balance is quite accurate, were it not it would cease to exist as everything depends on everything. What has not happened so far is that nature was predictable at every stage everywhere. And that is not quite the same as not being balanced.

'In flux' may be a better term?

[nothingliz]

Are we ready for space exploration though.  We may go to outer-space but we will bring our bad habits with us.  Even I want to go to outer-space but one must be benneficial to the space community.  Sad to say, Im not so benneficial.  There will be all-kinds of encounters of the 3rd kind going on and the question is, will they see us as a threat or welcome us.  So far they've not made too many steps toward getting to know us one on one.  I can see why.  We are dirty, filthy beings, spiritually we stink to high heaven.  War is inevitable, get ready for it.  No one wants a war, not even I.  But we do all live beyond our means.  We as an american people have grown use to being lazy, eating un-healthy, and food for slacking off.  But even still what we need is not war, but greater a greater spiritual revival to rally around.

[freetoroam]

stevemagegod, on 24 January 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

We have War to keep the Population in Check.

Well thanks for that info, I always thought it was down to the want of power, greed, religious divides and sadistic tyrants.

[Br Cornelius]

stevemagegod, on 24 January 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

We have War to keep the Population in Check.

Not very effective - historically they represent mere blips on the steady upward trend. The technologies which we develop through War generally cause an increase in survival rates as an unexpected side effect.
The reality is that war is an atavistic throw back to our primitive genetic tendency to territoriality.

Br Cornelius

Edited by Br Cornelius, 24 January 2013 - 06:13 PM.

[Br Cornelius]

Its great to philosophize from a distance that we are just acting out our potentials and its all inevitable that we are in the state we are in, but the reality is that we have multiple dissimilar potentials. Why choose the worst possible outcome - when with thought and wisdom we could have the best possible outcomes.

I am in agreement that we are facing a spiritual and moral malaze and only through an act of collective consciousness raising can we hope to develop the wisdom to see us through to a better outcome. Its not impossible, but first we need to want it rather than the **** we currently live through.

Br Cornelius

[questionmark]

Hasina, on 24 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

'In flux' may be a better term?

Correct. Now, if the flux gets to be one sided then then the balance is disturbed tends to stop.

[stevemagegod]

freetoroam, on 24 January 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

Well thanks for that info, I always thought it was down to the want of power, greed, religious divides and sadistic tyrants.

That To.

[jesspy]

This video is awesome at explaining a few things.