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[snuffypuffer]

So, tell me, when we stop taking in the poor, the tired, and the huddled masses, where, exactly, are they going to go?

[__Kratos__]

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So, tell me, when we stop taking in the poor, the tired, and the huddled masses, where, exactly, are they going to go?

Live in their own countries. We shouldn't have to support them at all. They are criminals. They steal billions each year from hard working citizens and legal immigrants. We have laws and rules for a reason.

If you don't like this idea, don't sign your name.

Edited by __Kratos__, 20 October 2005 - 01:20 AM.

[snuffypuffer]

Well, then, let's just hope to god you never have to be a refugee, Kratos.

[JennRose]

No, we can't take in everyone in need on this planet, but we can still leave this country open for people to have a better life, LEGALLY.  This country was built on the backs of  citizens fleeing from other nations, Kratos.  If we shut down our borders, we should shut down Liberty Island.

[PadawanOsswe]

they can make a living for themselves if they LEGALLY entered the U.S. otherwise, get them out. if they cant get jobs in Mexico, thats Mexico's problem, not ours!

[__Kratos__]

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No, we can't take in everyone in need on this planet, but we can still leave this country open for people to have a better life, LEGALLY.  This country was built on the backs of  citizens fleeing from other nations, Kratos.  If we shut down our borders, we should shut down Liberty Island.

Well... maybe you should have read the site first...

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Such a fence could be designed with up to two hundred legal crossing points to accommodate commerce, tourism and legitimate commuting. Although expensive in terms of initial outlay, in the long term it is both less expensive and more effective than any other solution currently being proposed.

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See, the fence would still allow legal immigrants to come through for a better life. I don't have a problem with any legal immigrants, just the illegal ones.

[XNavyGunner]

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So, tell me, when we stop taking in the poor, the tired, and the huddled masses, where, exactly, are they going to go?

Not our problem. We have trouble enough taking care of our own. Why should we be responsible for them?

Also where would we get the resources to take care of them? they be sucking at the government teat, and that money would come from the taxpayers. And I already pay enough as it is.

[coldwhitelight]

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Those of us who have to deal with illegals want a fence. And the military should be on the border.

America is not at war with Mexico, there is no reason to put federalize troops on the ground. Border patrol is the job for both law enforcement and Federal law enforcement. The American-Mexican border should be patrol by the Border Patrol and a assisted by the National Guard.

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Well, then, let's just hope to god you never have to be a refugee, Kratos.

Don't! confuse illegal immigration with refugees those are two different situation.

A. Illegal immigration is the act of moving to or settling in another country or region, temporarily or permanently, in violation of the law or without documents permitting an immigrant to settle in that country. People who are illegal immigrants (also known as undocumented aliens) are individuals who move to a new country either in an illegal fashion, or in a legal manner but then outstay their authorized time in the country.

B. A refugee is a person who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.

Mexico is not at war with another country. The illegal immigrants that cross the Mexican border into America are not refugees. Next time get your facts straight.

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No, we can't take in everyone in need on this planet, but we can still leave this country open for people to have a better life, LEGALLY.  This country was built on the backs of  citizens fleeing from other nations, Kratos.  If we shut down our borders, we should shut down Liberty Island.

Nobody wants to shut down the borders, just secure it.

Edited by coldwhitelight, 31 October 2005 - 05:32 AM.

[snuffypuffer]

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Don't! confuse illegal immigration with refugees those are two different situation.

A. Illegal immigration is the act of moving to or settling in another country or region, temporarily or permanently, in violation of the law or without documents permitting an immigrant to settle in that country. People who are illegal immigrants (also known as undocumented aliens) are individuals who move to a new country either in an illegal fashion, or in a legal manner but then outstay their authorized time in the country.

B. A refugee is a person who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.

Mexico is not at war with another country. The illegal immigrants that cross the Mexican border into America are not refugees. Next time get your facts straight.
Nobody wants to shut down the borders, just secure it.

I was using an exaggerated example, I know what the facts are. And no one is disagreeing that we need better immigration controls, but building a fence is just plain overkill.

[PadawanOsswe]

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I was using an exaggerated example, I know what the facts are. And no one is disagreeing that we need better immigration controls, but building a fence is just plain overkill.

why? were not building the great wall, were just building a metal fence with maybe some barbed wire atop.  we need to do something....cause obviously our fortess barbed wire line isnt cuttin it.

plus in the long run this fence will be a cheap solution.

Edited by PadawanOsswe, 20 October 2005 - 03:13 AM.

[__Kratos__]

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I was using an exaggerated example, I know what the facts are. And no one is disagreeing that we need better immigration controls, but building a fence is just plain overkill.

With all the problems illegal immigrants cause, this wouldn't be overkill but a solution to stop criminals. Sure, it wouldn't stop all illegal immigrants but a vast majority of them would be stopped. In the long run it would be cheaper to build then let them keep flowing in to America stealing money from hard working Americans.

[Deception]

What the hell are you all talking about? You got a fence. I know i climbed it 4 times.

[__Kratos__]

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What the hell are you all talking about? You got a fence. I know i climbed it 4 times.

Yeah, America has small ones, not one that goes all the way across the border though.

[Megalomania]

*compares China's population to America's*

Pfft, it's not THAT bad

Edited by Replacement100, 21 October 2005 - 06:42 AM.