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[Abramelin]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

That's ok.

There is also the 'why'.  If that was not softened stone then why do it.  Some pointed some not, some stamped some not, some scraped some not.

Why are they there at all?

Zoser, why and how we may never know, or not exactly.

But because we may never know doesn't automatically mean alien intervention.

THAT is my pioint.

[zoser]

This has been stamped.  My guess is that they needed to press the bulging stone back in.

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Why put shaping marks there when they obviously could produce flat stone (Coricancha)?

They had to be moulding marks.

The same effect is exactly reproducible in clay.

ok quite true.. but also like clay.. you can remove the molding marks.. so again.. why were they left? you asked us why they were they.. we are asking you the same thing..

we say its from the stone carving.. you say its from molding..

[Abramelin]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

This has been stamped.  My guess is that they needed to press the bulging stone back in.

Good, so let's say they softened the stone by a yet unknown process.

But where is the proof of aliens?

[zoser]

Abramelin, on 20 February 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Zoser, why and how we may never know, or not exactly.

But because we may never know doesn't automatically mean alien intervention.

THAT is my pioint.

I see your point Abe.

Other evidence supports the use of high tech.   It's when the weight of evidence all stacks up to the same conclusion.

DingoLingo, on 20 February 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

ok quite true.. but also like clay.. you can remove the molding marks.. so again.. why were they left? you asked us why they were they.. we are asking you the same thing..

we say its from the stone carving.. you say its from molding..

No need to do that with stone carving.  No one carves stone with stamp marks (think about it).

[bmk1245]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

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Why leave marks like that?

Some of those marks can be just the surface of weathered rock, others - just the deed by inept slave.
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[Abramelin]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

I see your point Abe.

Other evidence supports the use of high tech.   It's when the weight of evidence all stacks up to the same conclusion.





No need to do that with stone carving.  No one carves stone with stamp marks (think about it).

But what you don't know is how much time it took to create a structure like that.

It may have been decades.

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Edited by Abramelin, 20 February 2013 - 09:05 PM.

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

No need to do that with stone carving.  No one carves stone with stamp marks (think about it).

and no one who is so ahhh.. keen on precision would leave it if they had made the stone soft.. you would think they would make the mold a bit ahh flatter.. and in the same shape for every stone block.. not different shapes..

think about it..

[zoser]

DingoLingo, on 20 February 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

and no one who is so ahhh.. keen on precision would leave it if they had made the stone soft.. you would think they would make the mold a bit ahh flatter.. and in the same shape for every stone block.. not different shapes..

think about it..

They obviously needed precision in the joints but not the exterior faces.  That's the undeniable conclusion.  They only wanted them free of bulges.

This has clearly been trimmed.  This is not after-working with pounding tools.

[bmk1245]

Lord Vetinari, on 20 February 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Frankly, if they did leave all those bulges and marks and creases in it when they built it with the incredible precision using their mind blowing technology, then a pretty shoddy job they did of it. [...]

Yeap. With that kind of precision, zoser would be still using abacus instead of PC/tab/m.phone.

[zoser]

Abramelin, on 20 February 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

But what you don't know is how much time it took to create a structure like that.

It may have been decades.

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I sincerely doubt that it did.

In any event why finish the outcrop in cuboid fashion?

This is evidence of whole block removal.  How?  Again it must have been high tech softening equipment.

[zoser]

More evidence of trimming:



More evidence of pointing:

[Abramelin]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

I sincerely doubt that it did.

In any event why finish the outcrop in cuboid fashion?

This is evidence of whole block removal.  How?  Again it must have been high tech softening equipment.

You can doubt as much as you like, but you have no proof of the time it took.

It looks to me like what's left after many blocks had been cut out.

I don't know, really, but why are you so convinced it was done using alien technology?

I admit: I don't know anything about alien technology, but apparently you do, although you have never shown us how you got that knowledge.

[zoser]

I'll leave it with you for now.

I didn't wish to rake up old ideas, it was just that I was caught by the wall on BF's latest upload.

See you soon folks.

I would genuinely be interested though if anyone could explain these marks in any way other than stone softening.

Z

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 20 February 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

They obviously needed precision in the joints but not the exterior faces.  That's the undeniable conclusion.  They only wanted them free of bulges.

so why all the odd shaped stones then?

kinda sounds like a excuse to me sorry zoser.. that is all that it is.. because if they had the ability to soften stone.. and use molds to to shape them.. logically the stones would be the same shape.. and lets use your favorite word in its correct context 'logistically' it would also make sense to have them all the same shape.. you could do a production line on making the stones.. etc.. stone shaper.. to wall builder.. each fitting smoothly against each other.. no need to shape each stone differently to do it.. kinda like we do today.. the advanced way

though it was the same then.. stone shaper to wall builder.. the difference is.. they had to shape each stone to fit into the gap on the other stone.. for all we know those grooves and bumps could be from where they were trying to shape the stone to fit the wall and didnt do it correctly.. I would not be at all surprised if we moved one of the stones and found similar marks on the bottom that matches the front.. but in slightly different positions..