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#6646    scowl

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:49 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 07 February 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

And what you should get from that site is that the one who created it has some very radical ideas of his own too.

He does have a dismissive attitude towards ideas that he doesn't like. Not "The flaw in this theory is...", always, "What makes this absurd idea ridiculous is..."

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But nothing to do with any aliens, it's all just based on his knowledge of masonry.

These pyramids aren't the perfect creations of precisely cut and sized blocks I thought they were. The builders were good at organizing blocks of about the same height but the internal horizontal joints are random like any other Earthly masonry.


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:33 AM

View Postbee, on 07 February 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

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I watched your video Dingo but I just don't buy the Tomb Theory.... :hmm:


This video that Zoser poster is more to my liking.... :clap:






And perhaps the same kind of energy was harnessed and distributed in other places like Silbury Hill and Avebury Circle

in Wiltshire, England...for example..


But maybe the Great Pyramid, (in conjunction with the Ark of the Covenant?) was the biggest and the best....or at least the most

famous and that's how all that stuff was included in the Old Testament.


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actually Bee I would love if what zoser says was true.. heck I'm a pagan.. earth power is a core belief in paganism.. but unfortunately there is nothing to what he is saying.. all it is is hopeful thinking and wishing.. the pyramids were a tomb.. nothing more..


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

I think I'd like a Zoser poster.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

View Postseeder, on 07 February 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

Come on Harte, we both know deep down it was a landing pad for a huge pyramid shaped UFO. Funny enough exactly like in the first Star Gate movie. It just docked like an ipod. Then when fully charged on granitelectric it could zoom off again.

No, that was the interdimensional equivalent of an ice cream truck, picking up its daily load of treats for the otherdimensional kiddies.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 02:31 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 08 February 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

I think I'd like a Zoser poster.

fully clothed I take it? :w00t:

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:59 PM

My word you have been busy you lot.

Haven't got much time since it's been pretty busy at work.  Lots of tourists and general admin.  Been having some good discussions with people in the profession about the concepts of pyramid generation and I am beginning to change my mind about them.  Some are more switched on and open to reform than we tend to think.

With regards to Abe's ideas I would respectfully put it all down to a mixture of wishful thinking and naivety.  Imagine someone in a hundred years time unearthing a nuclear power plant and discovering uranium rods, graphite moderators and a containment pit. Then without much knowledge of hydraulics the claim is made that because he feels that a non return valve is connected wrongly the plant was never capable in principle of generating power even though the mass of evidence says that it did.

All he had to do was get a little knowledge on hydraulics to clear the misconception.

Same with Abe.   The fact that rubble was spotted close to a blast area is just as insignificant in relation to the whole concept.  Dunn and the nuclear engineers who have researched the generator concept reckon that the power output from this machine was totally awesome radiating some considerable distance.  Much more powerful than anything modern man has so far produced.  The power generated by that granite pile would make any perceived irregularities with the limtone pale into insignificance.

Also as I said before the complete construct of the interior limestone cannot really be totally known without a strip down and also if there is a rubble layer close to the exterior it would be totally insignificant since it is not far from the outer casing which was designed as the ultimate shield.

Keep looking, keep researching.  

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 06:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 08 February 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:


With regards to Abe's ideas I would respectfully put it all down to a mixture of wishful thinking and naivety. Imagine someone in a hundred years time unearthing a nuclear power plant and discovering uranium rods, graphite moderators and a containment pit. Then without much knowledge of hydraulics the claim is made that because he feels that a non return valve is connected wrongly the plant was never capable in principle of generating power even though the mass of evidence says that it did.

All he had to do was get a little knowledge on hydraulics to clear the misconception.

Same with Abe.   The fact that rubble was spotted close to a blast area is just as insignificant in relation to the whole concept.  Dunn and the nuclear engineers who have researched the generator concept reckon that the power output from this machine was totally awesome radiating some considerable distance.  Much more powerful than anything modern man has so far produced.  The power generated by that granite pile would make any perceived irregularities with the limtone pale into insignificance.

Also as I said before the complete construct of the interior limestone cannot really be totally known without a strip down and also if there is a rubble layer close to the exterior it would be totally insignificant since it is not far from the outer casing which was designed as the ultimate shield.

Keep looking, keep researching.  

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In your example, experts would figure it out. As the overwehlming percentage of experts have figured out that the pyramids are not power plants.


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

We all Love Bee & Zoser too ! As for the Ancient`s and there Power plants they left behind in form of The Great Wonders of the World.I.E. man made stuff, Its funny how they didnt leave any instructions on how to Fire them back up ? And not a signal manual or monkey in the wrench`s !
Well Keep Looking someday someone just might hit the On switch and We`ll bee off to the Races !
Kinda like That Keshe stuff I bet LoL ! :no:

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 08 February 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

We all Love Bee & Zoser too !

I like anyone who believes in "proof by repeated assertion". If the facts start giving you doubts, simply repeat the original statement. Ah, that's better...


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

View Postscowl, on 08 February 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

I like anyone who believes in "proof by repeated assertion". If the facts start giving you doubts, simply repeat the original statement. Ah, that's better...

I really don't think it is.  If you look at a Rolex you don't turn to someone and say look at that paper weight.

That's exactly what you lot are doing.   It's a precise analogy.

Ever considered denial by repeated evasion?

View PostDONTEATUS, on 08 February 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

We all Love Bee & Zoser too ! As for the Ancient`s and there Power plants they left behind in form of The Great Wonders of the World.I.E. man made stuff, Its funny how they didnt leave any instructions on how to Fire them back up ? And not a signal manual or monkey in the wrench`s !
Well Keep Looking someday someone just might hit the On switch and We`ll bee off to the Races !
Kinda like That Keshe stuff I bet LoL ! :no:

I never did understand a word you said Don.  Bless your cotton socks anyway.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:09 PM

View Postzoser, on 08 February 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

I really don't think it is.  If you look at a Rolex you don't turn to someone and say look at that paper weight.

That's exactly what you lot are doing.   It's a precise analogy.






Nope.   It's not even close to being a prcise analogy.    Of course we know what you definition of precise is. :no:

More precise would be if you look at a mausoleum and say look at that tomb.

You are stretching again.


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:18 PM

View Postzoser, on 08 February 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

I really don't think it is.  If you look at a Rolex you don't turn to someone and say look at that paper weight.

  It's a precise analogy.



Even Georgio is precise you know!!


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:36 PM

For people to not know what a nuclear power station is and how it functions as a power station you'd have to have lost: understanding of what the building is, understanding of nuclear power, understanding of basic power generation, the enculturated knowledge that they're power stations (even kids who don't know what nuclear means know what a nulcear power station looks like, they're iconic).
That's a lot of information and knowledge to lose.
Some of it quite basic. For example the "how power is generated" bit.


A far more useful analogy would be the toilet.
Now imagine in a few centuries/mellennia, we do away with the need to excrete waste in any form - maybe through genetic manipulation.or whatever so the toilet becomes obsolete.
Now, lets go on another few thousand years, and archaeologists dig up a loo. What is this odd device connected it seems to some mysterious underground system of pipes and tunnels? Could it be a religious icon? A primitive means of communication?
The "it's somewhere to put the body's waste" wouldn't occur to a lot of people. It'd take a historical knowledge of a somewhat obscure thing (that mankind used to poo) for it's use to be truly understood.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

View Postzoser, on 07 February 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

It's all here if you read it folks.

Pretty congruent with Dunn's theory it you ask me but this time put together by other scientists.

A fundamental axiom of engineering is that form follows function. An engineered system must be fabricated and assembled in accordance to the functions it must perform. Variance from this axiom, for the sake of economy, as an example, will result in failure of function. A subsequent corollary is that a system, which is operated, will wear out. A stronger design will give a longer life. The claim that a process plant has been over engineered will make a startup engineer’s blood boil. Any engineer assigned to operating a process plant will immediately embrace the philosophy of “build it once, build it right”.

The Great Pyramid was built to last as a process plant for a very long time.


http://nuclearpyrami...eat_pyramid.php

See ya all tomorrow.

Some body should really explain that to dunn:

"Traditional theory has it that the granite beams served to relieve pressure on the chamber and allow this chamber to be built with a flat ceiling. I disagree. The pyramid builders knew about and were already utilizing a design feature that was structurally sound on a lower level inside the pyramid. If we look at the cantilevered arched ceiling of the Queen's Chamber, we can see that it has more masonry piled on top of it than the King's Chamber. The question could be asked, therefore, that if the builders had wanted to put a flat ceiling in this chamber, wouldn't they have only needed to add one layer of beams? For the distance between the walls, a single layer of beams in the Queen's Chamber, like the 43 granite beams above the King's Chamber, would be supporting no more than their own weight."

In the process, they should point out that the queen's chamber is  only half the size of the king's chamber and has the corbells of the the grand gallery over the top of part of it.

Since no one else bothered to mention it, two of the points being used to support the article are based on obsolete information. The king's chamber glyph as you've been told has been shown to not be unique but is outside of Vyse's ability to fake, and the shafts do not communicate to the outside, and apparently never did.

About the theory itself, this thing is supposedly creating all this radioactive material, with half-lives in the thousands of years, and some of the features that would supposedly make it work as a reactor seem all but guaranteed to allow such material to penetrate or even escape the pyramid, yet the site isn't even above normal background radiation. It's funny he's comparing it to Hanford, seeing as it's the most contaminated nuclear site in the country. They had to cocoon the reactors after they decommissioned them.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Hanford_Site

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:52 PM

Ok since zoser seems to keep missing my posts with a few questions.. so I will re do them.. and I think I will even PM them to him..
now Jean Pierre is a construction engineer

ok Jean Pierre Houdin's theory on the pyramid..

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/26769564" width="400" height="250" frameborder="0"></iframe>

quote from AA debunked

"And if Jean Pierre is correct, knowing how the blocks were raised in the pyramid also happens to explain some of the other mysteries, like the purpose for the odd shaped Grand Gallery, as well as the purpose of the granite blocks above the kings chamber and why there were three burial chambers cut in at different levels in the pyramid two of which were unused."

Now I do doubt that zoser will watch it.. because it really actually kinda destroys the whole gp as a generator :) Houdin explains about the gallery .. the granite that zoser keeps going on about.. now Houdin's theory is getting rather credible reviews by the egyptologists.. and he is not even a archaeologist..

Just on a side note.. the stone sarcophagus .. you make a lot of mention about it.. and so have others.. why when it was cut.. part of it was cut wrong and they restarted it.. but left the cut.. if it was part of the power generation.. do you not think they would have restarted it.. not sure if you have ever worked in a power station.. but you do need things precise..


Now I did actually reply to this one.. but of course when I quote you it doesnt quote what I said previously.. so a bit of a change on this



DingoLingo, on 07 February 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

Well.. not really zoser.. you do the AA spin on things quite well..

zoser, on 08 February 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:
Not really.  Just putting together logistical evidence that fits.

do you actually understand what logistics is? just curious oh and before you ask.. yes I do.. I work in logistics :) have done for 20 odd years now.

DingoLingo, on 07 February 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

yes the principle of the GP has been well established now.. has been for a long time.. its a tomb mate.. simple as that.. not matter what theory .. thought.. spin you try to put on it will change that..

zoser, on 08 February 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:
So what happened to the rigour of scientific proof?   It's kind of out of the window now isn't it?

it does not need scientific proof.. it has archaeological proof..

DingoLingo, on 07 February 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

until someone makes a proof of concept..

zoser, on 08 February 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:
It's done.   Tomb theory not required.  All the evidence fits another explanation.  Simple.

no.. it doesnt.. you only wish it would its as simple as that.. there is no evidence that fits to another explanation.. there is no proof of concept.. that is what I find amusing.. you say no one will make a small scale to prove it.. if they were that sure it was.. getting it running as they say it is.. would make them over night multi billionairs..

DingoLingo, on 07 February 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

hell even get a physicist to do the math on it would be better.. then just saying because it has granite in it.. and there is a lack of art in it that is must be a power station..

zoser, on 08 February 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:
It's much more.  The proven acoustics, the granite stack above the upper chamber, the partial insulation of the granite from the core masonry, the proven electrical properties of the pyramid as testified by Siemens (and others), and the key differences with the two lime stones.  

Then add to that the precision build, the austere construction, lack of artistic features, not designed for humans to walk in..........

All point to something specific. None of these logistics support a dead King idea.  They all support a machine idea.

you said the maths shows that its a power generator? where's the maths?
again with the logistics saying it does not support a dead king.. what do you mean by the logistics.. It does point to something specific its a bloody big stone tomb that a ancient people built to bury a pharaoh

Sorry mate.

No need to apologize that you are sucked in by the AA crowd.. we understand that there are gullible people in the world