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[laver]

If 'vortices' create intelligent designs in the crops then there must presumably be an intelligence behind the 'vortices' , must the not ?

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

laver, on 28 February 2013 - 12:16 AM, said:

If 'vortices' create intelligent designs in the crops then there must presumably be an intelligence behind the 'vortices' , must the not ?

That is indeed the line of thinking that I've wondered about. I suppose the question would be, do "natural" crop circles have all these elaborate designs, or are they simply circles? When they first began to be noticed, they did seem to be mainly simple circles, and got more & more elaborate as time went by.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

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Edited by Lord Vetinari, 28 February 2013 - 08:36 AM.

[TheSearcher]

laver, on 28 February 2013 - 12:16 AM, said:

If 'vortices' create intelligent designs in the crops then there must presumably be an intelligence behind the 'vortices' , must the not ?

Nope. I did say natural crop circles. By that I mean the most natural simple form, as they were described and found in the beginning, "crop circles", no more no less. Vortices do not create intelligent design, that's man's work.

Lord Vetinari, on 28 February 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

That is indeed the line of thinking that I've wondered about. I suppose the question would be, do "natural" crop circles have all these elaborate designs, or are they simply circles? When they first began to be noticed, they did seem to be mainly simple circles, and got more & more elaborate as time went by.

Which joins what I meant above, in the beginning crops circles were just that, circles. Once some people got involved, they became more elaborate and had proper geometrical designs in them.

[Oppono Astos]

Lord Vetinari, on 28 February 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

That is indeed the line of thinking that I've wondered about. I suppose the question would be, do "natural" crop circles have all these elaborate designs, or are they simply circles? When they first began to be noticed, they did seem to be mainly simple circles, and got more & more elaborate as time went by.

Multiple-circles, rings and pictograms etc were documented back to the early 1900s, though that doesn't rule out hoaxing alongside natural phenomena even then - as circles were in common (rural) lore.
Meaden's plasma vortex theory covered how natural vortices created multiple circles and annular rings.

[laver]

The phenomena has greatly increased in number and complexity over recent years... is this a special time... a time of Revelation?
Some crop designs defy logical explanation so the answer to this question must be... very probably...

[Theater of Dreams]

laver, on 20 April 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

The phenomena has greatly increased in number and complexity over recent years... is this a special time... a time of Revelation?
Some crop designs defy logical explanation so the answer to this question must be... very probably...

When I see a long number of pages in a forum, I tend to skip to the last few.

Tell me; how do you think crop circles correlate with the Revelation, and what messages are trying to be conveyed through them?

[laver]

Theater of Dreams, on 21 April 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

When I see a long number of pages in a forum, I tend to skip to the last few.

Tell me; how do you think crop circles correlate with the Revelation, and what messages are trying to be conveyed through them?

Would suggest a look at the original post. If some crop designs have messages it may relate to geometry and maths...and some do

[The Exodia]

the truth is so much painful.

[laver]

The Exodia, on 22 April 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

the truth is so much painful.

Only if you don't keep an open mind

[Midyin]

I would LOVE to make a crop circle, but I would have fun with it, and write something like "ATTACK WILL HAPPEN HERE!" or "WE ARE REAL YOU STUPID EARTHLINGS!"

Or I would really get the Tinfoil-hat lot hyped up, and use improper sentence fragmentation like "REAL WE ARE HUMANS STUPID". Then watch the theories about how "That's how the aliens fragment their sentences, and this is a direct translation from their language to ours" or some crap like that... lol

[shrooma]

Oppono Astos, on 28 February 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Multiple-circles, rings and pictograms etc were documented back to the early 1900s, though that doesn't rule out hoaxing alongside natural phenomena even then - as circles were in common (rural) lore.
Meaden's plasma vortex theory covered how natural vortices created multiple circles and annular rings.

http://www.crystalin...optheories.html

Oppono Astos, on 28 February 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Multiple-circles, rings and pictograms etc were documented back to the early 1900s, though that doesn't rule out hoaxing alongside natural phenomena even then - as circles were in common (rural) lore.

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oh dear oh dear oh dear.....

Edited by shrooma, 22 April 2013 - 03:47 PM.

[DieChecker]

laver, on 02 January 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

.....the main alignment of 5 of these churches then goes to the Sea of Galilee and ....
.....At this location, Mount Arbel next to Magdala, Jesus talks about the End of Time.(Mathew 28)....
.....So this bearing line from the Sea of Galilee at Magdala goes through the 5 churches of Revelation goes on round the Earth to a location in southern Britain, a specific location, a short distance from Avebury....
.....Avebury, the largest Stone Age monument in Britain is one of his markers....
.....Great circle bearings from this location reveal the alignment of the 5 churches of Revelation....
.....This confirms that the Revelation bearing is not just a coincidence ....
.....They were not just a random choice of locations ....
.....it must then be a time of Revelation the revealing of that which is hidden.

Theater of Dreams, on 21 April 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

When I see a long number of pages in a forum, I tend to skip to the last few.

Tell me; how do you think crop circles correlate with the Revelation, and what messages are trying to be conveyed through them?

I think the main gist of the OP for the thread was that...

1) The Christian Book of Revelation has 7 churches mentioned...
2) If you line up 5 of these Churches (very roughly) the line hits the Sea of Gallai in Israel where Jesus taught. This was important for some reason.
3) If you extend that line across Europe, supposedly it hits England and somewhere close to Avesbury.
4) This area is heavy in crop circles...
5) SEE! CLEAR EVIDENCE!!!

Edited by DieChecker, 22 April 2013 - 07:41 PM.

[laver]

DieChecker, on 22 April 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

I think the main gist of the OP for the thread was that...

1) The Christian Book of Revelation has 7 churches mentioned...
2) If you line up 5 of these Churches (very roughly) the line hits the Sea of Gallai in Israel where Jesus taught. This was important for some reason.
3) If you extend that line across Europe, supposedly it hits England and somewhere close to Avesbury.
4) This area is heavy in crop circles...
5) SEE! CLEAR EVIDENCE!!!

Suggest you check out the Lats and Longs and Great Circle bearings of the locations before you dismiss the idea!
There are 7 churches to which Jesus sent messages in the first 3 Chapters of the Book of Revelations with the instruction that there is a secret meaning in these locations; the last 5 follow a bearing line of 110 degrees from Temple Farm, close to Avebury in Wiltshire see David Furlongs website and the Keys to the Temple, which then goes to the Sea of Galilee at Mount Arbel next to the place associated with Mary Magdalene, Magdala now Migdal. These are facts.
The first two of the churches or locations chosen by Jesus in the Book of Revelations, Ephesus and Smyrna, form a second alignment from the Great Pyramid which crosses the 110 degree bearing line from Temple Farm at Troy and then crosses Europe to the Island of Bornholm in the Baltic which is an ancient sacred site from thousands of years BCE.
At Bornholm this bearing line crosses the most famous alignment or ley line in Britain, the Saint Michael Alignment through southern England, which if extended as a great circle goes to this island.

Where did Mary of Magdala, the messenger of Christ, send the disciples to meet Jesus? to a mountain in Galilee, where Jesus talked about the 'end of time',( Matthew 28), but which mountain? Mount Arbel? which is linked by ancient landscape geometry to the Book of Revelations locations chosen by Christ..

The area of Wiltshire around Avebury and Temple Farm is the centre of crop circle activity...draw your own conclusions

[DieChecker]

laver, on 22 April 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Suggest you check out the Lats and Longs and Great Circle bearings of the locations before you dismiss the idea!
There are 7 churches to which Jesus sent messages in the first 3 Chapters of the Book of Revelations with the instruction that there is a secret meaning in these locations; the last 5 follow a bearing line of 110 degrees from Temple Farm, close to Avebury in Wiltshire see David Furlongs website and the Keys to the Temple, which then goes to the Sea of Galilee at Mount Arbel next to the place associated with Mary Magdalene, Magdala now Migdal. These are facts.
The first two of the churches or locations chosen by Jesus in the Book of Revelations, Ephesus and Smyrna, form a second alignment from the Great Pyramid which crosses the 110 degree bearing line from Temple Farm at Troy and then crosses Europe to the Island of Bornholm in the Baltic which is an ancient sacred site from thousands of years BCE.
At Bornholm this bearing line crosses the most famous alignment or ley line in Britain, the Saint Michael Alignment through southern England, which if extended as a great circle goes to this island.

Where did Mary of Magdala, the messenger of Christ, send the disciples to meet Jesus? to a mountain in Galilee, where Jesus talked about the 'end of time',( Matthew 28), but which mountain? Mount Arbel? which is linked by ancient landscape geometry to the Book of Revelations locations chosen by Christ..

The area of Wiltshire around Avebury and Temple Farm is the centre of crop circle activity...draw your own conclusions

I don't remember doubting the facts. Only the assumption that crop circles in England have anything to do with Israel, Jesus, or some citys in Turkey listed in Revelations.