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#406    Tia

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 02:39 PM

View PostBlueBomber, on 15 April 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Exactly. Any attempt to really bring down a creature like this would require an almost paramilitary type group with resources. If this ever happened, bringing in the body of big foot, it won't be one guy. Now, this whole idea of multiple Big Foots (Big Feet?) is new to me, especially with the intelligence displayed in jtheats awesome account.

BlueBomber jtheat even mentions hearing a second one and that was his first encounter.

If you want to compare them to another animal think gorillas, the alpha male will make any threatening behaviour while the females and young hide.

It's just the way of things, that's why even a silencer wouldn't work. How do you know what's staying silent in the bush within easy reaching distance to you? You may see one it doesn't mean the others aren't there.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 06:28 PM

Someone could shoot one at quite a distance and not have to worry about any other Foots  nearby to grab him.
And if others are scared off or not even around, which is possible, retrieve physical evidence, etc.
Also, they are seen here in the U.S. in all kinds of topography, where friends hiding in the nearby bush is not possible.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 16 April 2013 - 06:40 PM.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:53 AM

Where I live in Australia you can't see 2 metres in front of you in some parts the bush is so thick.

Also no one has brought up the biological aspect. We have no idea what's what under all the hair.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 16 April 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Someone could shoot one at quite a distance and not have to worry about any other Foots  nearby to grab him.
And if others are scared off or not even around, which is possible, retrieve physical evidence, etc.
Also, they are seen here in the U.S. in all kinds of topography, where friends hiding in the nearby bush is not possible.
I won't pretend to be any kind of authority on animals, but you, very clearly, lack understanding of pack animals.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:56 PM

View PostBlueBomber, on 17 April 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

I won't pretend to be any kind of authority on animals, but you, very clearly, lack understanding of pack animals.

Correct, I am no expert on pack animals.  However:
--Where is it written in stone that these creatures are pack animals? How many in a pack? What does their pack consist of? One mom and two juveniles? Mom gets shot, juveniles run off?
--Where does the scientific literature say that the males aren't just solitary except for mating?
--We are talking about a creature with absolutely no scientifically documented facts, so anything is possible.
--Do you know the pack mentality of bigfoot? Does one ever leave the pack to look for food? Do you know they would defend a fallen member?
--My speculations are as viable as anyone else's until a scientific study is done on these creatures habits, physiology, socialization, etc etc.
--Bigfoot does not follow the natural laws of any other known species why should their "pack" mentality, if indeed there is one, be any different?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 17 April 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

Correct, I am no expert on pack animals.  However:
--Where is it written in stone that these creatures are pack animals? How many in a pack? What does their pack consist of? One mom and two juveniles? Mom gets shot, juveniles run off?
--Where does the scientific literature say that the males aren't just solitary except for mating?
--We are talking about a creature with absolutely no scientifically documented facts, so anything is possible.
--Do you know the pack mentality of bigfoot? Does one ever leave the pack to look for food? Do you know they would defend a fallen member?
--My speculations are as viable as anyone else's until a scientific study is done on these creatures habits, physiology, socialization, etc etc.
--Bigfoot does not follow the natural laws of any other known species why should their "pack" mentality, if indeed there is one, be any different?

QC, nothing is written in stone as NO ONE can know any of the things for sure. I know by some they consider my encounters are invalid even the ones with multiple witnesses because they were either family or friends. I don't see myself in all these years having made any money from any of this, if anything it has caused a lot of stress and trouble by certain factions but I keep on going....why because it has been happening for years, we have been safe with our guys and it was a part of our lives and I won't justify myself more.

My husband was with me when we walked at a different time of day and place then usual and spooked a female and group gathering. She sent out a warning call and the bush went still all around us. My husband is a skeptic and at the time I remember filming him on my old camera, laughing at him when he finally admitted that it was HGs it was his second encounter and no known Australian animal made the call we heard. I've also been down at night more so when the alpha isn't around with other humans and we've heard vocals of definite different creatures. 2 or 3 around, early in the piece with one of my daughters we were encircled by 3 of them which was scary at first until we realized they were just as interested in us as them.

From years of field research there seems to be the alpha male in our group, there are also rogues as I've mentioned lone males sometimes howlers (one of the worst and spine chilling calls you'll hear) they just constantly move through different areas and best avoided.

Would one come to help another, 5 witnesses would attest to that. But I refuse to further talk about this last bit, call me a tease or what ever but I freely answered the other parts and have a right to preserve the identity of the people and the incident, but you wanted an answer, would they all do that? I guess it's like humans I stopped for a motor cycle accident today with my youngest daughter and 1 other man and we helped and checked on the people, every one else just watched. Humans show a lot of disgusting traits, animals normally show more unconditional love and concern.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:09 PM

Keep in mind that when we apply the known thing that other animals do then when we take a look at what Bigfoots are supposedly doing, it really makes no sense. Unless you're a Bigfoot, then it would probably make perfect sense. Thing is, we really don't know what is "normal" for a Bigfoot. And that does presuppose that Bigfoots are indeed real to begin with, we really need to establish proof of existence before we can determine what they do and how they act within their environment.

I actually have a great example of what I'm talking about in Stardrive's observations and current working theory. Sadly, I can't really go into it at this time.

Edited by keninsc, 18 April 2013 - 01:10 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

That's just it Ken, I don't know for a fact the true origin. I can can only speculate on that. And since I'm not comfortable putting all my eggs in one basket, I've come up with a couple of theories. Until the day I can see it in operation with the operator present, I'll just have to wait and see.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:05 PM

There's a couple of possibilities, but I thought it interesting that I'd noticed some similar things and never put the two together, so kudos on that, you made the connection.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:44 PM

View PostTia, on 18 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

QC, nothing is written in stone as NO ONE can know any of the things for sure. I know by some they consider my encounters are invalid even the ones with multiple witnesses because they were either family or friends. I don't see myself in all these years having made any money from any of this, if anything it has caused a lot of stress and trouble by certain factions but I keep on going....why because it has been happening for years, we have been safe with our guys and it was a part of our lives and I won't justify myself more.

My husband was with me when we walked at a different time of day and place then usual and spooked a female and group gathering. She sent out a warning call and the bush went still all around us. My husband is a skeptic and at the time I remember filming him on my old camera, laughing at him when he finally admitted that it was HGs it was his second encounter and no known Australian animal made the call we heard. I've also been down at night more so when the alpha isn't around with other humans and we've heard vocals of definite different creatures. 2 or 3 around, early in the piece with one of my daughters we were encircled by 3 of them which was scary at first until we realized they were just as interested in us as them.

From years of field research there seems to be the alpha male in our group, there are also rogues as I've mentioned lone males sometimes howlers (one of the worst and spine chilling calls you'll hear) they just constantly move through different areas and best avoided.

Would one come to help another, 5 witnesses would attest to that. But I refuse to further talk about this last bit, call me a tease or what ever but I freely answered the other parts and have a right to preserve the identity of the people and the incident, but you wanted an answer, would they all do that? I guess it's like humans I stopped for a motor cycle accident today with my youngest daughter and 1 other man and we helped and checked on the people, every one else just watched. Humans show a lot of disgusting traits, animals normally show more unconditional love and concern.

Yes, my response was not to discount your personal experience or anyone else's. I simply stated that without any scientific documentation and study of these creatures we can all only speculate and each of us may be right and wrong. Accounts in the states are as varied as the witnesses. I've heard several in the U.S. (with personal experiences) claim our creatures here are "gentle giants". They are curious about humans, and wouldn't hurt us. So, not arguing what you know of these animals, just nothing is scientifically documented to know any which way what is their way.  All speculation is fair in the world of bigfoot.
Case in point, black bear aggression varies in the U.S.. Those that live north of the contiguous United States have a reputation for being more aggressive. (read it somewhere, have no link) And it is not mothers defending cubs (again black bear), but 88% are looking for food and 92% of those are male!  http://www.nytimes.c...ce/11bears.html

Edited by QuiteContrary, 18 April 2013 - 06:56 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

View PostStardrive, on 18 April 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

That's just it Ken, I don't know for a fact the true origin. I can can only speculate on that. And since I'm not comfortable putting all my eggs in one basket, I've come up with a couple of theories. Until the day I can see it in operation with the operator present, I'll just have to wait and see.

Do you have access to trail cam(s)?

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