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[Beckys_Mom]

glorybebe, on 12 December 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I searched and there were two threads in 2007.  I didn't think it was that long ago....I'm getting old. Lol

Blimey, it was 5 years ago.. I searched through the thread Still Waters posted, and thought to myself - BM I sure hope you haven't posted in this thread, otherwise your memory is shot to bits  lol

I have seen me do this a few times.. I read the title of a thread, think wow this is bizarre, and scroll through it, only to find I had already posted in it, and some of them were only a few months old..Maybe my memory is going

[Lava_Lady]

Still Waters, on 12 December 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

"Nurse at Duchess of Cambridge's hospital was found hanged"

http://www.telegraph...und-hanged.html

Thanks for the update.... so very sad.  

One tiny pebble caused a tsunami.

[glorybebe]

Still Waters, on 12 December 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

"Nurse at Duchess of Cambridge's hospital was found hanged"

http://www.telegraph...und-hanged.html

Found hanged?  That's horrible!

[Helen of Annoy]

glorybebe, on 12 December 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

No, no pre-existing idiosyncratic response there.  It is a matter of the body not being able to flush the toxins out.  We learned this in biology in highschhol here in BC.  Also, a nurse called into the show to warn them that it was dangerous and someone could severly sick or die.  So, yeah, they were liable.

I apologise for nitpicking, but it’s not the body being unable to flush the toxins out because of extreme water intake, it’s the body flushing minerals out at too fast rate. Just because your potassium is technically still inside your body, if it sits in your bladder, it’s useless. And without potassium, to start with, nerves can’t transmit impulses and your muscular contractions cannot be performed. Since heart is the muscle, you’re dead.
One of the reasons why diuretics (unless prescribed by professional for actual conditions) or drastic “water diets” are dangerous.
Sadly, the woman who died could take all that water without throwing up, which is something most of us would naturally and unstoppably do, then give the damn contest up and - live.

[Beckys_Mom]

Still Waters, on 12 December 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

"Nurse at Duchess of Cambridge's hospital was found hanged"

http://www.telegraph...und-hanged.html

I wonder why it didn't say she was found hanged before now?  Unless I missed it days ago?  It's just, previous news reports called her death - Unexplained, so found hanged is not what I would say is unexplained?

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 12 December 2012 - 05:50 PM.

[Still Waters]

Beckys_Mom, on 12 December 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

I wonder why it didn't say she was found hanged before now?  Unless I missed it days ago?  It's just, previous news reports called her death - Unexplained, so found hanged is not what I would say is unexplained?

I hadn't seen anything about her being found hanged either, but it seems to be headline news today. I'm wondering if the unexplained part is because there's some doubt that she did take her own life although everything so far seems to suggest she did. However I think we'll find out more after the post-mortem.

"A post-mortem examination on her body to determine the cause of death has been carried out by a Home Office pathologist and the results are expected to be published at the beginning of the inquest into her death on Thursday."

[Beckys_Mom]

Still Waters, on 12 December 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

I hadn't seen anything about her being found hanged either, but it seems to be headline news today. I'm wondering if the unexplained part is because there's some doubt that she did take her own life although everything so far seems to suggest she did.

Yes I see what you mean, but still,  it would have at least stated she was found hanged, but I didn't read that beforehand,    If I know the media, it would have read - Nurse found hanged following DJ prank, suicide note found... But it didn't, not even the more non reliable news rags bothered.....It's weird !

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       I think we'll find out more after the post-mortem.            

Tomorrow will shed more light, I agree

[Mr Right Wing]

hatecraft, on 07 December 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

She got what she wanted.  No one else is to blame.

I agree.

A nromal person woudlnt top themselves because of something like this. It may have been the final trigger but there will be a history of mental health problems with the nurse even if she wasnt receiving help for them.

The two presenters have nothing to feel guilty about. The nurse had that look about her too which says shes mental.

Edited by Mr Right Wing, 12 December 2012 - 07:21 PM.

[glorybebe]

Beckys_Mom, on 12 December 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

Blimey, it was 5 years ago.. I searched through the thread Still Waters posted, and thought to myself - BM I sure hope you haven't posted in this thread, otherwise your memory is shot to bits  lol

I have seen me do this a few times.. I read the title of a thread, think wow this is bizarre, and scroll through it, only to find I had already posted in it, and some of them were only a few months old..Maybe my memory is going

I know the feeling!  LOL

[Beckys_Mom]

glorybebe, on 12 December 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I know the feeling!  LOL

I poke fun at myself for it too

[glorybebe]

Beckys_Mom, on 12 December 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

I poke fun at myself for it too

Well, gotta laugh or sometimes we cry.  Or sometimes laugh as we cry...

[Beckys_Mom]

glorybebe, on 12 December 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

Well, gotta laugh or sometimes we cry.  Or sometimes laugh as we cry...

It's a bit like that in my house from time to time  lol

[psyche101]

glorybebe, on 12 December 2012 - 07:06 AM, said:

I've mentioned that same thing.  She gave out the information, did she assume since the call was forwarded that the person forwarding it had verified it was the Queen? Personally, I think their higher ups threw them under the bus.  Permission wasn't given by the hospital or the nurses because the radio station did not get through to the hospital ( kinda fishy there too).  The station had a press release saying they hadn't done anything wrong...passing the buck.

Indeed, there is more to this than meets the eye. It seems the DJ's are a scapegoat, the connection seems fairly tenuous to be frank.



ETA I love you nick, it's not only heartwarming, it's a great RL Burnside song. (almost)

libstaK, on 12 December 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

That's pretty spot on - the potential is now that it could cost 3 lives.  As I have said somewhere earlier also - this would not have gone "viral" if the U.K. press had not taken an interest, it should have just been a local spot on a radio station.  Where are all the stations and news groups that made this such a huge deal?  Why was it so wrong for the DJs to pull the prank but not the rest of the world to play it over and over again making it an international event?

That is a really good point. Easy to point the finger, but Australia seems to be copping a bit of that lately.

Edited by psyche101, 13 December 2012 - 07:18 AM.

[psyche101]

Simbi Laveau, on 12 December 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Considering its from years ago,I've never even heard of it,I assume you googled until you found some case of soommmeeething ,so best guess,you already know the answer.

You assume incorrectly. Although I do admit I was surprised that it has already been 5 years, I thought it was more like 2. It even made radio news down here. But not harassing the DJ's, just illustrating the tragedy. And that it was too.

Simbi Laveau, on 12 December 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

It's also a completely different scenario ,which is much like the guy that ate cockroaches in a CONTEST ,and died .
Every contestant probably gave written legal release to be in the contest ,and I'm not even sure if it was broadcast ,but alll the contestants would know they were on the air .

Yes, it is a different scenario, it is worse IMHO. But did the DJ's cop any flak like the Aussie ones are? All these people had to do was read up. I do not now if you have clicked on the thread here at UM, but if you do, you will see many people say they thought it was common knowledge. I thought so as well.
Who cares if they knew they were going to be on the air, this poor mum, like yourself did not know about water toxicity. The contest organisers did not bother to look up heavy water consumption when they came up with the idea. That is negligence. Resulting in death.

Simbi Laveau, on 12 December 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Everyone sues when someone dies ,and I've never heard of water toxicity ,which means she had some pre existing idiosyncratic response .
But people do stupid things to win junk so ....

Well, these DJ's did not cop half the flak these two Aussies are, and they do not deserve bloody death threats. That is just plain crazy. People who go that far need to see a doctor.

And now you know about water toxicity, and that it is not idiosyncratic. Anyone on this board can suffer the same. Combined ignorance cost a life. And people deride skeptics! Gracious!

Still Waters, on 12 December 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Is this it?
http://www.unexplain...e  contest&st=0

http://news.bbc.co.u...cas/6261509.stm

Indeed it is. Thank you.

[psyche101]

Helen of Annoy, on 12 December 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

I apologise for nitpicking, but it’s not the body being unable to flush the toxins out because of extreme water intake, it’s the body flushing minerals out at too fast rate. Just because your potassium is technically still inside your body, if it sits in your bladder, it’s useless. And without potassium, to start with, nerves can’t transmit impulses and your muscular contractions cannot be performed. Since heart is the muscle, you’re dead.
One of the reasons why diuretics (unless prescribed by professional for actual conditions) or drastic “water diets” are dangerous.
Sadly, the woman who died could take all that water without throwing up, which is something most of us would naturally and unstoppably do, then give the damn contest up and - live.

Please keep it up. Nitpicking might have saved that Mums life.