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What do you Think Happened; Dyatlov Pass


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#1    WillowWolf

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

(I hope I put this in the right forum.)

Ok so I was reading a bunch of articles on Dyatlov Pass recently and am getting more and more interested in theories on the subject.

So I gotta ask, what do you think happened at Dyatlov Pass.

(Here's a link if you don't know the story http://en.wikipedia....v_Pass_incident )

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:38 PM

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:46 PM

Frankly, nobody knows.  I do know from years of outdoor activities that panic and inexperience kills and the harsher the conditions, the faster this can happen.

I agree with Brian Dunning, however, that whatever did happen can be explained with fairly simple and mundane explanations.

Here's his podcast (you can also read the transcript) if you're interested:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4108

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 07:30 PM

<p>Avalanche or some kind of similar event followed by hypothermia which lead to paradoxical undressing well that my 2 cent at least p>

Edited by Cynical Sounds, 01 July 2013 - 07:31 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

All of it sounds strange and bizarre.

" All members were experienced in long ski tours and mountain expeditions"
what would make them want to leave their tent so bad that they tore from the inside and left without any footwear?

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

All that sounds very good but how do you explain a missing tongue??


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:37 PM

View Posttinysbox13, on 02 July 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

All of it sounds strange and bizarre.

" All members were experienced in long ski tours and mountain expeditions"
what would make them want to leave their tent so bad that they tore from the inside and left without any footwear?

Panic kills.

The Granite Mountain Hotshots were highly trained with years of experience - they were the elite of the elite.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostMantis914, on 02 July 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

All that sounds very good but how do you explain a missing tongue??

Animal Predation or in all of the turmoil, she simply bit her tongue off.  

Remember, their bodies were exposed for weeks before recovery.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:58 PM

View PostRafterman, on 02 July 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Animal Predation or in all of the turmoil, she simply bit her tongue off.  

Remember, their bodies were exposed for weeks before recovery.

I don't completely disagree but wouldn't the bodies have been ravaged also?  I remember something about an orangish tinge to the bodies or the surrounding areas too...


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:10 PM

View PostRafterman, on 02 July 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Panic kills.
There must a be a reason for sudden panic then, right? Seems more than simple "panic."

View PostRafterman, on 02 July 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

The Granite Mountain Hotshots were highly trained with years of experience - they were the elite of the elite.

That statement I would agree on, although both are under different circumstances, both teams were highly skilled and trained. Just seems to me though there are too many details gone unexplained...

View PostRafterman, on 02 July 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Animal Predation or in all of the turmoil, she simply bit her tongue off.  

Remember, their bodies were exposed for weeks before recovery.

I would think they'd go more in detail as to which animal(s) would've come to scavenge the scene. And/or mentioned that she was in such a state of panic she bit her tongue off.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 12:51 PM

View PostMantis914, on 02 July 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:



I don't completely disagree but wouldn't the bodies have been ravaged also?  I remember something about an orangish tinge to the bodies or the surrounding areas too...

Orangish tinge is consistent with being left exposed to the elements in those types of conditions.

Perhaps the tongue was removed before the bodies completely froze?  As I said, who knows.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 12:53 PM

View Posttinysbox13, on 02 July 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:


There must a be a reason for sudden panic then, right? Seems more than simple "panic."



That statement I would agree on, although both are under different circumstances, both teams were highly skilled and trained. Just seems to me though there are too many details gone unexplained...



I would think they'd go more in detail as to which animal(s) would've come to scavenge the scene. And/or mentioned that she was in such a state of panic she bit her tongue off.


- Also I think this was in an episode of Ancient Aliens if I'm not mistaken!?

Who are you referring to that would have said those things?  The bodies were out there for weeks before they were discovered.  The folks that discovered them didn't know anything more about what happened than we do.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

Whether it is paranormal, or a mundane explanation, this is one of the most interesting unexplained cases i have read. I have been interested in it for a number of years and still find it intruiging.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:19 PM

View Posttinysbox13, on 02 July 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

There must a be a reason for sudden panic then, right? Seems more than simple "panic."



That statement I would agree on, although both are under different circumstances, both teams were highly skilled and trained. Just seems to me though there are too many details gone unexplained...



I would think they'd go more in detail as to which animal(s) would've come to scavenge the scene. And/or mentioned that she was in such a state of panic she bit her tongue off.


- Also I think this was in an episode of Ancient Aliens if I'm not mistaken!?

I'm not sure if this is the whole thing or part of it:



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:21 PM

Look at this thread, and to save reading all way through, look at the last page were I laid out various information and links to the full autopsy reports, though they are in Russian.
http://www.unexplain...pic=177708&st=0





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