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Katherine K. Young states "(t)he fact remains, however, that not all conspiracies are imagined by paranoids. Historians show that every real conspiracy has had at least four characteristic features: groups, not isolated individuals; illegal or sinister aims, not ones that would benefit society as a whole; orchestrated acts, not a series of spontaneous and haphazard ones; and secret planning, not public discussion."
Source: http://en.wikipedia....piracy_theories

[unit]

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Because honestly most conspiracy theories never seem to make a material difference whatsoever.

why bother? ..is that what you're saying?

..well, what are you saying?

i feel a bit like one of those douchebag scientists at the zoo, one of these monkeys almost said something that made sense.. or a parrot just spoke, i'm left wondering if it understands what it just said?

because honestly, if all these (dead and living) folks trying to unmask the conspiracy aren't at least giving you an overall impression of what it entails, then hey, i'm right with you on that ~ why bother indeed.

[orangepeaceful79]

unit, on 29 October 2012 - 12:52 AM, said:

why bother? ..is that what you're saying?

..well, what are you saying?

i feel a bit like one of those douchebag scientists at the zoo, one of these monkeys almost said something that made sense.. or a parrot just spoke, i'm left wondering if it understands what it just said?

because honestly, if all these (dead and living) folks trying to unmask the conspiracy aren't at least giving you an overall impression of what it entails, then hey, i'm right with you on that ~ why bother indeed.

I was revisiting my feelings on conspiracy theory.  I've pretty much always regarded them as  fringe imaginings of people which never amount to any actual change, and so in my estimation are truly pointless.  BUT I wanted to ask the question of whether in fact, any conspiracy had actually gone so far as to accomplish something meaningful other than to give potheads something to argue about while passing a bong around.  I like to re-evaluate my beliefs from time to time just to make sure that the evidence available still supports them.

The results, in this case at least,  seem mixed.  I'm pretty confident still that most conspiracy theories are 99% pointless thought exercises.   And the 1% that might actually be true are pretty much unactionable, rendering us back to...well... pointless.

For example (because I love to give examples) lets look at HAARP.   Could the government have a top secret weather controlling facility in the upper northern US?  Sure.  But what the #%&@ are you gonna do about it?  Get Chuck Norris to lead a crack team of commandos up there to blow it up?  Who gives a crap?  If you can't change it, what does it matter if its true or not?  The end result is the same.

In the final analysis, I'm back where I started.  Results matter - conspiracy theories don't.

[unit]

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Who gives a crap?  If you can't change it, what does it matter if its true or not?  The end result is the same.
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In the final analysis, I'm back where I started.  Results matter - conspiracy theories don't.

you're just being lazy here.. or what was the thing that motivated *me* to uncovering it for myself?
oh, that's right, people like me are just "nuts", right?

a persons judgement is only as good as their information..
..are you saying you're fully informed?

i'm not.. i still learn new things every day.. but as for the overall agenda, why they're doing what they're doing.. it makes sense to me.. we live in the same world, do we not? ...i wonder what the difference is between us? it might have something to do with the part where "you don't give a crap"?

i also liked the part where you expect proof (from chuck norris?), but you know you're up against a deceptive opponent anyway.. perhaps this is another insight, you want someone to save you, i'm all for just saving myself..

ever been bird watching? ..after a while you don't even need to *see* them because you've become familiar with their calls, know what i mean? so you're looking for a bird that doesn't want to be found.. but it exists.. you know that.. "we" know that..

no lazy tweeter ever saw his elusive quarry.. seek and you *will* find..

you'd be suprised who smokes bongs.. i certainly was

[orangepeaceful79]

Heya, Unit.  i speak for myself only.  i asked the question for my own information and am satisfied with what i recieved.  

i'm not laying judgement on anyone who believes in conspiracy theories.  heck i'm not even saying that some of them aren't true.  in the grand scheme of things, they just don't fall in the pile of stuff i worry about.  i have other worries much more pressing.  

i guess in a way its nice that someone is out there doing the worrying for me.  so maybe i should just thank you (conspiracy theorists) for looking out for the rest of everybody else the government and the illuminati are silently and secretly bent on killing in treacherous ways.  
i guess that makes me lazy.  throw me in the corral with all the other sheeple.  

thanks for reading.  have a lovely day.  i know i will.