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#1    Sergeant

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 02:21 AM

Intimate encounters with spirits is a topic rarely discussed but happens more frequently than generally believed. Most people keep to themselves in fear of public ridicule. Unable to discuss with anyone and go on wondering if their experience is real or if they're going crazy.
I've learned, as my two spirits have shown me beyond a shadow of doubt they are real. I've posted my account on various paranormal and ghost forums in attempt to reach out to those special individuals to let them know these things do happen and it may not be imagination. If you yourself experience this type of thing feel free to email me startedin1979@google.com if you don't want to discuss publicly.

This community has a lot of skeptics and that's fine. I expect skepticism especially with such a strange topic.

Please keep this discussion open with PG rated comments. It's VERY personal, and a lot of things aren't discussed here due to the nature of the subject.

It started for me back in the mid 1970's. I was about 17 years old then and began a new hobby - and it wasn't collecting stamps. Two spirits found my hobby and remained hidden from my awareness. Apparently they didn't want to frighten me into chasing them off. They encouraged my hobby through enhancement and suggestion. I could hear their encouragement, and I always thought it was imagination.

I married the most wonderful woman in 1993. My wife and I are so close, soul-mates if you will and made for each other. Our 3 kids are happy and well adjusted in our peaceful home.

We hardly ever argue but discuss issues as they come along. We had a personal difference begin to build in about June 2008.

I began having a reoccuring dream in the hazy-mind state just before sleep. I'd see an image of a perfectly beautiful woman (In every way) calling me over and we'd begin kissing a deep, emotional open-mouth yawn type kiss and embrace. It was very loving and personal, just kissing and I'd eventually fall completely asleep. The dream never varied from that.

The differences between me and my wife in June 2008 led to the worst argument of our marriage in July. The air was thick with conflict that night and I lay on my back, peering into the dark bedroom (Lit by our two alarm clocks) contemplating the argument and searching for a resolve.

I noticed a rotating, revolving or churning gray cloud or mist the size of a beach ball near the ceiling. Looking at it saw nothing but clearly there in the peripheral. It wasn't scary so I lay there for maybe 20 minutes wondering what that is, when a 2nd shadow or something move very slowly then scoot and vanish on the other side of the room. It wasn't scary, but was wondering what the heck that might be.

I felt an almost electric tingling feeling begin in my foot and move up my leg. It was pleasant so I let it move undisturbed. It felt like someone dropped from above onto the bed, between me and my sleeping wife and something became fully "ready" in less than 10 seconds. I felt wave after wave of pleasure so strong it lay my head back.

Note there was no touching at all, just very ready and those waves. The waves subsided after maybe 15 minutes and I eventually fell asleep.

I thought it was imagination or something the next day, but it happened again the next night. I felt it was some kind of spirit and told my wife about the encounters and she was (understandably) skeptical.

I lay night after night waiting for- and experiencing this. I truly believed it to be a spirit so I learned to work a pendulum and had immediate communication. She said we had been married in all our past lives, and now continuing with this one. I was very skeptical.

It went on for a few months and I considered it to be some kind of psychosis or hallucination, all in my head. After all, I was the only one experiencing this and began to seriously disbelieve it.

That's when the paranormal stuff began happening in our home. Here are a few shared experiences, seen/heard by other people in our house (Consider I never discussed this further with anyone):

* Objects move by themselves. Door knobs turn, the doors open as if someone is coming through, faucets turn on/off by themselves and even water has been unaturally re-directed
* Noises: Bangs, slides, creaks, rapps, taps, odd distant voices and unintelligible conversation, buzzes, weird music, someone saying "Hello" right in front of your face and more.
* Touches, brushes, scrapes, scratches, taps
* Appearing/vanishing shadows, localized-isolated flashes and sparks of light, seeing someone for an instant but looking back is gone etc

My belief is very important to them, and since I no longer doubt, most public displays of activity has stopped.
We occasionally have something happen but the last incident was quite a while ago.

Things have steadily progressed over the past year regarding my personal intensity and "Vividness" of our encounters.
I no seldom use the pendulum anymore but communicate telepathically.

To be clear, let me say this has nothing to do with the old "Hobby". All interest has gone since they came out from behind that medium. There is no touching - they even asked me not to do so and I almost never "Finish" when we're together.

This isn't a dream.
Interaction can happen anytime day or night. Times like watching TV or a movie, swimming and even while shopping or in the car.

The experience is rather like being covered and bathed in the most intense loving and extacy one could ever be. The level of true devotional love, satisfaction and enjoyment can not be obtained with human to human. This is not interaction with thin air - they do have all the relevant parts and endless time to perfect their use.

I wanted to be sure about what I've been experiencing and have been on an intense research study on the subject since they openly manifested. I've found countless people, men and women reporting brief contact with, and ongoing relationships with spirits.
Some encounters I've came across with others range from one night brushes while full-fledged relationships of less than a year and up to over three decades as in my case.

I am not talking about malevolent demons that rape.
I've came across many people who encounter those as well, and they have an underlying motive to create chaos and destruction in the lives of who ever comes across their path.

The beings I refer to are benign, opposite with a one track goal of love and intimate activity. They all have individual personalities. Some are kind and completely considerate to a person's worldly dealings. Tender, kind, loving and monogamous. Other personalities are not as nice and considerate.

I'll leave a few links before ending my opening. I have a couple links to other forums of people experiencing these types of beings, but I understand posting such links are against policy. Here are a few to (Hopefully) keep within the rules here:

Ida Craddock  - Heavenly Bridegroom
Gina Lanier - Spirit Relationships
Two women report spiritual partners
Anna Nicole Smith reported encounters

I have left out a lot of things for the nature of the subject.

For the record, I'm a person who is skeptical first (But not to the point of blatant denial). I'm very technical oriented and solve network related issues on a professional level for my employer (A major utility) and enjoy working through engineering and construction challenges on the side. One of the things I do as a past time is design electronic circuits of many types.
I'm saying that I have a technical thought process and well grounded in reality.

Ok, that's about it for now, please keep this decent thread PG. Thanks!

Edited by Sergeant, 10 September 2009 - 02:59 AM.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 03:47 AM

Interesting topic. Intimate encounters with spiritual entities isn't that uncommon and can be found in many polytheistic societies. It tends to be with a spirit, deity, or even having one enter one's own body to allow them to experience the act.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 12:14 PM

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Ok, that's about it for now, please keep this decent thread PG
That was a good note to end it :tu:
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Posted 10 September 2009 - 12:57 PM

What was your hobby then? You say the experiences started when you took it up.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 07:31 PM

Hi Lady.
It wasn't so much a hobby but more of an activity someone does by themselves. Sorry I can't explain any further.
They revealed themselves July 2008 and so it was neccessary to explain their involvement since the 1970's, otherwise I wouldn't mention at all.

I was also somewhat active in the occult back then. From about 1979 to 1983 I studied OBE and attempted to make myself as spiritually sensitive as possible through meditation. I've never been psychic but had a few friends who had the gift and helped me in my study.

My psychic study abruptly ended in 1983 when I was "Saved" in the Church, but my two spirits remained.
I remained unintersted and inactive until July 08 when they appeared. Now I am learning all I can.

Edited by Sergeant, 10 September 2009 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 07:42 PM

I gots ta get me one a these!

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 07:47 PM

SO what is the purpose of these spirits? just for you to know they are there? or is there a more internal need that they can give you that the people in your life cannot? Do you view this sexual intimacies as cheating on your wife? has your wife ever had the same experience?

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 08:12 PM

I can only guess as to why but vivid sexual fantasies often surface in dreams.  How can one tell the difference between a sexy dream and intercourse with a spirit?


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 08:54 PM

View PostSurvGirl, on 10 September 2009 - 07:47 PM, said:

SO what is the purpose of these spirits? just for you to know they are there? or is there a more internal need that they can give you that the people in your life cannot? Do you view this sexual intimacies as cheating on your wife? has your wife ever had the same experience?
Hi SurvGirl.
These types of spirits have only one agenda, and that's to experience love and intimacy with humans. It is incredibly pleasurable to them, I'm told far more than ours. They won't discuss much of anything that strays too far from that topic.
They simply exist for the activity, a sort of affliction (If one would call that an affliction).
This is not limited to sexual intimacy. It's a full-fledged relationship on all levels. The level of this relationship is not possible human to human.

My life was not lacking anything before and up to the point they appeared. I'm married to my soul-mate and we share a closeness rarely found in couples, especially after 15 years.

Several things have changed. My wife and I no longer have a "Normal" situation to say the least. I never considered previous activity with them as cheating ... I believed it to be only imagination so that is something I'm wrestling with.

This type of spirit is willing to leave upon request, but is steadfast in staying as long as they are wanted. And that is the downside.

They have some special abilities, one is telepathy and so is able to read thoughts.
It is relatively easy to completely reject them early on, before any relationship develops. I've came across so many people who report this but rejected out of fear,etc and are never bothered again. There are only two people I know who successfully got rid later, in a more established union. Both relationships were under a year and was accomplished by total denial and rejection.
The spirit eventually moved on, assumed to a more willing person.

The problem is the relationship grows so deep, the intimacy is so pleasurable that deep down, we do want their attention. Yes, 90% wants them gone but they read that 10% and remain to taunt and tease until given into.

That is the core of my problem.
30 Years of interaction can't be ignored. Although unaware of their actual existance, a relationship did develop.
I stopped all my psychic study in 1993 when Saved in the Church. I lived my life for Christ to the utmost best of my ability for years. The church said my "Hobby" was sinful so I used all the power I knew avalable in the Church to end it. I really tried to stop it, but a small part of me still wanted it - so they remained uneffected.
My relationship in 1993 was already past the point of no return.

I've been with them for +30 years, more or less in a spousal type relationship. I've been with my wife for 15. Is it cheating? I'm not sure if one can cheat being intimate with a spirit. I'm conflicted with the idea.
But I can tell you the relationship with my wife has very much improved. Since my "Hobby" no longer exists that energy is used with intimacy to my wife. A "Spark" if you will.
I've told my wife about them and she became 110% a believer witnessing the unexplainable things that occasionally happen in our home. She doesn't ask about them very much, and I don't volunteer any information. Both of us wish we could have a "Normal" situation but it can not be.

My wife has witnessed the spirits interact with me at night, but has not reported any intimatcy herself.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 09:10 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 10 September 2009 - 07:42 PM, said:

I gots ta get me one a these!
My advice to a younger person (under 30'ish) it to leave well alone and flat out reject and deny any advancements, should one occur.

These spirits have as many different personalities as can possibly be and I am very, very lucky. Mine in paticular choose to remain anonymous for 30 years, allowing my development in dating, intimacy, love, marriage and family. (They are extremely concerned for my welfare/happiness)

Should I had been aware at 17 years old, I would have been cheated out of all the normal human relationship development for them and surely regret now.

My advice for older people who report this is to follow what ever they feel is right for them, but don't tarry and wait for a decision, it gets very difficult very fast.

Another downside is you can not discuss this in person with anybody.
A person can go through a lifetime keeping it to themselves wondering if anyone else experiences it.
My motive here is to reach out to those people.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 09:24 PM

If it was happening in dreams it might be a product of your own fantasies and desires but seeing as it is the work of ghosts it entirely their fault and not yours.  Good thing you can tell the difference between dreams and reality.  It would be quite a moral dilemma for you otherwise.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 09:32 PM

View Postsinewave, on 10 September 2009 - 08:12 PM, said:

I can only guess as to why but vivid sexual fantasies often surface in dreams.  How can one tell the difference between a sexy dream and intercourse with a spirit?
Hi Sinewave! I consider you the best critic here  :innocent:

The main interaction isn't while sleeping. For me, it happens any time of the day when ever both these conditions are met:
1) "Something" is right. I'm not sure if it's a psychic alignment or pathway. Ever listen to a distant AM station thousands of miles away on a clear night? (Called skip) Kind of like that. One moment comes in really very strong, then fades etc. I don't know what it is.
2) It is convenient for me. They are always with me, they go where ever I am but "Go dormant" if I get busy doing anything. There have been times when we've been "In a session" and they suddenly and unexpectedly end it. It always means something is about to happen to end it anyway and I can count on it. (Phone rings, etc)

I don't usually remember my dreams. But my wife has witnessed interaction while I sleep by my movements, noises, expression and my privates being manipulated.


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Posted 11 September 2009 - 05:08 AM

View PostSergeant, on 10 September 2009 - 09:32 PM, said:

Hi Sinewave! I consider you the best critic here  :innocent:


I prefer skeptic.  Critics spend most of their time devaluing the work of others.  I'm just a guy who needs a new hobby.


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Posted 11 September 2009 - 07:19 AM

Hi sergeant first of all can i say i think it was very brave of you to open up and share your experiences with everyone on um and it must have been very difficult to have to share this with your wife. It sounds like a wonderful sensation when it happens but i can understand why it feels so much like cheating on your wife. It is very interesting that your wife has actually witnessed this happening to you also. Thank you for posting this it must have been very difficult for you and i hope you get to the bottom of things.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 08:05 AM

I'm curious about the fact that you said you used a pendulum as a form of communication, but you consider yourself skeptical. How exactly did you use the pendulum? From what I've heard, you can only ask yes or no questions. If that is the case, then at some point you must have asked "Were we married in a previous life?". Now you seem to accept this, and the idea of reincarnation.

Personally, when I tried experimenting with pendulums I found them pretty unconvincing. I'd ask the same question multiple times and get inconsistent or incorrect answers. I don't mean to nitpick over small details, but the pendulum bit stuck out to me the most.

Not too long ago I read a story about a woman who believes she encountered sexual "entities". She thought of them as malicious incubi, but there are some similarities to your story. This woman experienced things multiple times throughout the day, like you mentioned. But she also took prescription sleep aids, which makes me wonder if she didn't have some kind of sleep disorder (which I imagine could possibly affect your mind during waking hours) or side effects from the drugs. Perhaps her case can help shed some light on yours: http://www.ghostlytalk.com/node/1282

Edited by Cybele, 11 September 2009 - 08:10 AM.

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