Holder + Obama Cabinet attacking USA?

[SRCivic98]

hey ya'll I have been looking at the news recently and have found this link to a comment that Holder has stated about the American people here in the USA. Now Obama has also been playing the race card a lot too. Along with Hilary Clinton wanting a connection with the Islamic and Muslim societies by bringing them here and opening the USA borders....I'd like to hear your opinion on these links and articles and be truthfully honest. thanks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_..._pe/holder_race

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_...inton_indonesia

[doesnt_matter]

hey ya'll I have been looking at the news recently and have found this link to a comment that Holder has stated about the American people here in the USA. Now Obama has also been playing the race card a lot too. Along with Hilary Clinton wanting a connection with the Islamic and Muslim societies by bringing them here and opening the USA borders....I'd like to hear your opinion on these links and articles and be truthfully honest. thanks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_..._pe/holder_race

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_...inton_indonesia

I think that cowardly isn't exactly the term I'd chose to describe it with. Racism is a simple beast when its slaughtered and hung out to dry. Its simple self interest and selfishness that drives it. No one wants to share what they have with another, so any excuse will do. With the color of skin, it is blatant, and can not be simply overlooked. Its a perfect decoy for the real intent. Right now, there is a big problem with ethnic minorities getting their share of the pie in this country, no doubt about it. I note Mexican immigrants here. However, it is just an excuse so that other people don't have to share. So I suppose in a way hes right. We have been too cowardly to face up to our own and others selfishness. Of course, I expect the elite class's to get in on this sharing thing too...Be a person white, black, tan, or purple, they have burning within them the same great flame that those of opportunity, power, and wealth have in them. The flame of human life and dignity. IMO

I'm glad that Clinton is engaging the other countries of the world in a less militaristic and stubborn way than the Bush administration had. I'm curious to see the results.

Edited February 20, 2009 by doesnt_matter

[ninjadude]

If by "attacking" you mean attacking real problems, ideaologies, and corruption that has driven our country right off a cliff, then yes of course. and it's about time too.

[MasterPo]

It was always about race.

Just that we as a nation have PC'd ourselves into a corner where no white person can say to the contrary without being labeled a racists, tared and feathered and run out of town.

[SRCivic98]

It was always about race.

Just that we as a nation have PC'd ourselves into a corner where no white person can say to the contrary without being labeled a racists, tared and feathered and run out of town.

heck, except now it's being carried out of town covered with a body bag and having bullet holes in you and beheaded

[InHuman]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

chickens = roosting.

[MasterPo]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

chickens = roosting.

If that means what goes around comes around, I thought Obama was going to bring tolerance and understanding? I thought he was going to heal old wounds and bring us together?

Another campaign promise broken just weeks into the term.

[Kevin7557]

hey ya'll I have been looking at the news recently and have found this link to a comment that Holder has stated about the American people here in the USA. Now Obama has also been playing the race card a lot too. Along with Hilary Clinton wanting a connection with the Islamic and Muslim societies by bringing them here and opening the USA borders....I'd like to hear your opinion on these links and articles and be truthfully honest. thanks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_..._pe/holder_race

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_...inton_indonesia

Old philosophies which no longer applie. In the begining we were a melting pot now we are a nation. That is what people fail to realise. Well until they are under attack. Then they whine a lot and pass blame around.

If by "attacking" you mean attacking real problems, ideaologies, and corruption that has driven our country right off a cliff, then yes of course. and it's about time too.

What drove our country off a cliff was idiots. Not corruption and idealogies. Every country has those so what made ours so special. No I am afraid you are wrong (again). It was stupidity that got us where we are now. We are a country of ideas. We are a country of Freedom. We have to shoulder the blame for what has happened if it is ours instead of passing it onto everyone else. So stop swollowing and repeating everything Obama says.

[Jack_of_Blades]

What drove our country off a cliff was idiots........It was stupidity that got us where we are now.

Very nicely put

[HKCavalier]

hey ya'll I have been looking at the news recently and have found this link to a comment that Holder has stated about the American people here in the USA. Now Obama has also been playing the race card a lot too. Along with Hilary Clinton wanting a connection with the Islamic and Muslim societies by bringing them here and opening the USA borders....I'd like to hear your opinion on these links and articles and be truthfully honest. thanks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_..._pe/holder_race

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_...inton_indonesia

I'm honestly sick of people calling any mention of race or racism "playing the race card." "Playing the race card," properly meaning, refering to race to gain advantage or to silence your opponent is THE OPPOSITE of what Holder is doing. Of course the country is "cowardly," that's all political correctness is: terror of being accused of being un-pc. Political correctness is purest cowardice. And since we're on the subject of cowardice, I find it cowardly to fear our country making diplomatic overtures to Indonesia. So freakin' what, y'know?

[Kevin7557]

I'm honestly sick of people calling any mention of race or racism "playing the race card." "Playing the race card," properly meaning, refering to race to gain advantage or to silence your opponent is THE OPPOSITE of what Holder is doing. Of course the country is "cowardly," that's all political correctness is: terror of being accused of being un-pc. Political correctness is purest cowardice. And since we're on the subject of cowardice, I find it cowardly to fear our country making diplomatic overtures to Indonesia. So freakin' what, y'know?

I have the best responce to that and I am going to share the story that goes with it.

Me and this black person were argueing over who was more insane. Yes we were.

I was like I am socialpath.

He was like I am a socialpath and a pyromaniac.

I was like owe yeah I am a socialpath and pyromaniac and I advicate the destruction of the catholic church. (there was more but I can't remember it inbetween that point and the point before or maybe not.)

THen he pulled the slave card. Owe yeah well my ancestors were slaves.

Then here is my answer. Owe yeah well I suffer from the rare and incurable condition called don't give a ****.

The other person listening in was surprised by the whole thing and was laughing. He was too. We all were. I have had more civil conversations with black people on the race issue than I have other places.

Race shouldn't freaking matter. He is against blacks. And!? Well it is wrong to be against blacks. And!? It is simple word but kills that argument so fast. Cause eventually the stupidity in their argument will kill it or become apperant to everyone and it will be over. LOL.

[SRCivic98]

nice replies ya'll. but remember, so we don't have the moderators getting on to anyone, that you need to keep it civil and collective. thanks ya'll. keep the replies coming though, I'm really impressed on everyone's opinions and everyone does get a say so.

[Hansel]

It was always about race.

Just that we as a nation have PC'd ourselves into a corner where no white person can say to the contrary without being labeled a racists, tared and feathered and run out of town.

You are 100% correct. Give it a few more years and see how bad it can really get. In essence accusing someone of racism is racist in iteself.

Example: I dont like Obama for his socialist ways, but since Im white it has to be a race thing, right?

Trust me, Ive already been told that many times to my face by other people. LoL, my what a world we live in.

[Hansel]

e destruction of the catholic church. (there was more but I can't remember it inbetween that point and the point before or maybe not.)

THen he pulled the slave card. Owe yeah well my ancestors were slaves.

Then here is my answer. Owe yeah well I suffer from the rare and incurable condition called don't give a ****.

LOL thats hilarious!

[Kevin7557]

Thank you

[MasterPo]

You are 100% correct. Give it a few more years and see how bad it can really get. In essence accusing someone of racism is racist in iteself.

No one can ever prove they aren't a racist.

[Kevin7557]

No one can ever prove they aren't a racist.

I can. I once was watching a show on tv and 15 minutes in it dawned on me the person was black. Which got the "Wait he's black". Plus one time I took a good hard long look at black person and I saw just another human like me who was just black.

Though good point. Racism is hate. You can be discriminate, profiler, or racism. You can prove your not racist. But you could be another.