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#1    Magicjax

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:41 AM

I'm just curious. If you're in the US did or would your religious belief effect who you did or would vote for?

I can see that it could for some people. I know it depends on if they'll bring their religious beliefs into their decision making. In some cases I can't see how they can't play a part. For example bush certainly let it effect stem cell research.

Just curious how much of a consideration it really is/was to people. I know the answers will vary from person to person.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:49 AM

I vote based on ideology, not myth and faerytales.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:58 AM

Me too. But there's a lot of talk about it in this election particularly with one of them being a Mormon. The other getting steam for not saying "god bless America" I know it's all mostly hype. That's why I asked the question directly.

Some say if the Mormon church demands something. By the "rules" of the religion he must comply. That's what they say anyway. That doesn't mean the church will or he'll obay if they did. Heck hes changed his mind so many times on issues who knows what hes capable of changing. Including his religion if it doesn't fit his agenda. But I've read that issue voiced.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:58 AM

Not really, I try to maintain a secular stand. In away it is because I have a very Pagan moral base, that is very different from a Christian moral base.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:59 AM

View PostMagicjax, on 07 November 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Me too. But there's a lot of talk about it in this election particularly with one of them being a Mormon. The other getting steam for not saying "god bless America" I know it's all mostly hype. That's why I asked the question directly.

Some say if the Mormon church demands something. By the "rules" he must comply. That's what they say anyway. That doesn't mean the church will or he'll obay  if they did. But I've read that issue voiced.
Same thing with Kennedy and the Pope.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:01 AM

People are going to vote for those that reflect their own beliefs whether its religious, abortion, the economy.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:38 AM

I don't really have a religion. And personally, I don't care what religion someone is, you will get my vote if you stand for what I believe in.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:02 AM

I couldn't vote..but if I could have, I most likely would have picked Romney .......Because he seems like a nice man  lol  I like Obama too..

Hopefully Romney will run again next term and win...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:27 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 07 November 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

I couldn't vote..but if I could have, I most likely would have picked Romney .......Because he seems like a nice man  lol  I like Obama too..

Hopefully Romney will run again next term and win...

Just shoot me, please.   Ask his poor dog how nice he is, he put him on roof rack on the car, then ran down the freeway. Poor dog, the man is a jerk.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:44 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 07 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Just shoot me, please.   Ask his poor dog how nice he is, he put him on roof rack on the car, then ran down the freeway. Poor dog, the man is a jerk.

He must have been watching  - National Lampoons Vacation then   lol ...No wait, the Griswolds  had their dog tied to the back of their car and drove off down the freeway  lol  

Lighten up Dark..it doesn't matter to me who won.. I cannot vote...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:27 PM

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Just shoot me, please.   Ask his poor dog how nice he is, he put him on roof rack on the car, then ran down the freeway. Poor dog, the man is a jerk.

You know, that weighed much more heavily on my mind than his religion. In my opinion, that incident, combined with the lack of evidence of any subsequent regret or understanding why anybody would question him about it, revealed a debilitating blind spot, an inability to empathize with another sentient being's suffering, or even an inability to reason about another human being's ethical thinking. His mask slipped, in my view.

And, although it is unrelated, except for not being about his religion, either: allowing an aide to crow "We're not going to let fact checkers run our campaign" was just about the stupidest thing for any campaign official to say.

Maybe it's just my circle of friends, but I don't know anybody personally who thought there was anything in particular which Romney could be counted on to stand for, because he'd stood on both sides of so many issues at one time or another.

But, just to put in a word for religious tolerance. As the Cardinal of New York noted, it was the first time in American history that there was a Roman Catholic on both national tickets (Biden and Ryan). I think it's good that, by and large, we do often look past religious differences, and that America would be an even better place if there could be more of it.

I never felt that Romney was shoving Mormonism down my throat, anymore than I thought Ryan or Biden was shoving Catholicism. If anybody cuts me some slack, then I'll cut them some, too. I think that's the American way :) .

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:02 AM

:tu:  I didn't even know Biden or Ryan are Catholic, that is how much I care about what their religion is.  Yes the whole dog thing nailed it for me.  If that is how he is going to treat a dog, how is he going to treat me. Even if a Pagan was running if I didn't agree on major issues then he is not getting my vote. .

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:31 AM

Truth be told, religion has no place in politics

I would also like to say I did not think of religion as I voted. Times as they are, I end up looking at who is the  most religious and staying away from them.

United States is to much of a mix of religions and non religious people. And that is how it should be. Politics needs to stay away from religion and religious people should not look for political gains for their faith/religion.

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Maybe some day there will be a presidential race in which religion/faith is something that is not to be spoken about or tolerated within speeches.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:57 AM

Actually if they want to bring religion in to politics let them but they need to let God do his whole job. That judgement thing is his job not theirs. They say to give what has been given fine... you say God has given us free-will then let us use that gift. You cannot give free-will if your taking away choice by silly out-dated laws.

That is what in God we trust means on the dollar bill. We trust in our choices, our free-will.


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:12 AM

I knew he was shot in the foot with his traditional attitude towards women. To many strong independent women in this country. Even in his last little speech he basically thanked his sons wives for being good little house wives. Im a bit of a feminist so it bugged me a bit.

Still Obamas economics is a desaster that is going to get worse.  He and his staff don't seem to have the slightest clue how real economies or businesses work..... to bad. Businesses in the US will continue to flee. Our loss.

This is why I am a libertarian.

Dosnt matter anyway. I live in CA my vote dosnt count.

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