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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Not necessarily true.


http://www.foxnews.c...-teacher-south/


If people want to use this as a pawn in their 2nd Amendment agenda... either for or against.... Just give it a few days.

Children are dead regardless of the manner or means.

well imagine if he had a gun! lol those children wouldnt be alive.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:11 PM

I'm honestly dreading clicking on CNN or MSNBC in case they have the faces of the little angels. Maybe I should stay away from the Internet and go outside all weekend with my 2 month old.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:12 PM

View PostMr Right Wing, on 14 December 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

In the context of the US I quote 'The rate of mental illness is staggering' and '25% of Americans have a mental disorder at some point' - http://www.webmd.com...s-is-staggering - I also quote 'researchers still consider the figure an underestimate'

I also quote 'Among the study's findings are an 18% rate of anxiety disorders and a 10% rate of mood disorders in the U.S. Both figures are above that of any other country, but range far beyond what is found in places such as Shanghai, which showed just a 2.4% rate of anxiety and a 1.7% rate of depression'

A lot of US citizens are negative and abusive towards each other. What you call a lack of respect or a broken society is actually mental illness. The abused become the abusers and the chain continues with the occasional person going nuts and shooting everyone.

I totally disagree.

I think that mental illness is not nearly as prevalent in the USA than the doctors and big pharma would have us believe.
Nearly every normal human emotion is now being considered a mental illness that demands chemical treatment.

I think it's the drugs that are screwing people up.

I know, I know, it's not been confirmed yet if the shooter was on any medication, but I'll bet $100 he was.  Call it a hunch.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:15 PM

View PostMaizer, on 14 December 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

I'm honestly dreading clicking on CNN or MSNBC in case they have the faces of the little angels. Maybe I should stay away from the Internet and go outside all weekend with my 2 month old.

awwww you have a two month old???  

H O M E S C H O O L ! ! ! ! ! !  

i already cried my eyes out practically watching an interview of a woman who saw the police tell parents their children were dead... she looked completely traumatized having seen that... i can not imagine witnessing that.. it would tear me into a million pieces.. let alone being the parent of the murdred child.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:16 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 December 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Guys  I wish you would take your worry over politics elsewhere .  This thread is a tragic story.. Using it to yap over   * Oh our gun laws may suffer now * .. Right now, people are more concerned  with the   actual story at hand..  not your worry over gun laws.. Give it a rest..

I think Obama did a good job of this, I thought it was a very respectful speech.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:17 PM

What is this world coming too. I for one think that Fire arms manufactures should responsible for these crimes as. We all always point fingers at the shooters, but never at the people making the guns. What is the point if making guns after guns. There is already too much out there. They are the biggest criminals out there and they just sit back and roll in the dough. They should be held responsible for all these gun crimes. Also games like COD should be banned. These first person shooter games are too much. You have kids playing these violent games and whats worst is that parents are buying their kids these games to play. I for one support the ban on guns.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:17 PM

View Posttapirmusic, on 14 December 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

I totally disagree.

I think that mental illness is not nearly as prevalent in the USA than the doctors and big pharma would have us believe.
Nearly every normal human emotion is now being considered a mental illness that demands chemical treatment.

I think it's the drugs that are screwing people up.

I know, I know, it's not been confirmed yet if the shooter was on any medication, but I'll bet $100 he was.  Call it a hunch.

Come on its from psychological research not speculation.

The shooter may well have been on medication and yes I agree it does make many people flip.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:21 PM

View Posttapirmusic, on 14 December 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

I totally disagree.

I think that mental illness is not nearly as prevalent in the USA than the doctors and big pharma would have us believe.
Nearly every normal human emotion is now being considered a mental illness that demands chemical treatment.

I think it's the drugs that are screwing people up.

I know, I know, it's not been confirmed yet if the shooter was on any medication, but I'll bet $100 he was.  Call it a hunch.

I agree. I've lived abroad, and despite the flaws, America probably has much less mental issues than average because of its prosperity and attention to mental health and counselling. Of course, we've still a long way to go.

Also, the majority of mental drugs actually do help. Its just the few addictions and side affects that taint the picture. I don't know if this killer was on medication, but if he wasn't he probably needed it.

Edited by Maizer, 14 December 2012 - 11:22 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:24 PM

View Poste u n O i a, on 14 December 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

awwww you have a two month old???  

H O M E S C H O O L ! ! ! ! ! !  

i already cried my eyes out practically watching an interview of a woman who saw the police tell parents their children were dead... she looked completely traumatized having seen that... i can not imagine witnessing that.. it would tear me into a million pieces.. let alone being the parent of the murdred child.

Thanks :) :). I think I'll hold her a bit more tonight.

And yeah I can't imagine anyone having to inform those parents of something like this... I hope there's counselling available for the cops who do that sort of stuff...


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:29 PM

View PostCassea, on 14 December 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Did I say there was?  I pointed it out.  Because killers have the opportunity to target practice.  Before the real deal.  It is especially dangerous.  Think.  You don't get to practice stabbing someone to death?   How could you practice other methods of murder?   But with guns.  Just by playing video games.  You can practice murder.

Are you honestly comparing playing a video game to practice for shooting a gun or murder.  Maybe I am misreading that statement and not getting the correct meaning, but if you are then it sounds like you have never shot a gun or played one of the varies shooting games.  Not one of the popular shooting games has realistic shooting mechanisms, even most of the unpopular ones have unrealistic shooting mechanisms.  Shooting a gun in real life is no where near the same as playing a video game and trying to compare playing a video game to practice for shooting or murder is potentially one of the most ridiculous things I have heard.  Very few games have gun sway, and if they do it is often unrealistic, you don't feel the recoil, hear the sound of the gun going off, or even have realistic bullet physics.  So trying in anyway to equate a shooting game with actual practice of a gun is just utterly ridiculous.

As for the shooting itself, it is a tragedy and personally I think this is a sign of a greater social problem going on in America.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:39 PM

View PostMr Right Wing, on 14 December 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Come on its from psychological research not speculation. The shooter may well have been on medication and yes I agree it does make many people flip.

This is the last I'll mention it, and maybe we can start another thread, but psychological research is about as reliable as something that's not reliable (see what I did there?)

read more:
http://www.naturalne..._diagnosis.html

any way, back to the morose reality of this thread...


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:40 PM

View PostDarkHunter, on 14 December 2012 - 11:29 PM, said:

Are you honestly comparing playing a video game to practice for shooting a gun or murder.  Maybe I am misreading that statement and not getting the correct meaning, but if you are then it sounds like you have never shot a gun or played one of the varies shooting games.  Not one of the popular shooting games has realistic shooting mechanisms, even most of the unpopular ones have unrealistic shooting mechanisms.  Shooting a gun in real life is no where near the same as playing a video game and trying to compare playing a video game to practice for shooting or murder is potentially one of the most ridiculous things I have heard.  Very few games have gun sway, and if they do it is often unrealistic, you don't feel the recoil, hear the sound of the gun going off, or even have realistic bullet physics.  So trying in anyway to equate a shooting game with actual practice of a gun is just utterly ridiculous.

As for the shooting itself, it is a tragedy and personally I think this is a sign of a greater social problem going on in America.

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Under their logic, I suppose banning video games would be the next logical move.

Because Millions upon Millions of ruthless cold-blooded killers are training on their x-box's as we speak.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:44 PM

View PostSol Mirdad, on 14 December 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Also games like COD should be banned.

No way jose!

Just because it's a shooter game doesn't mean it's bad! I play it and I know many people who do and none of them even own guns or hunt.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:45 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

I wish I could like this twice.


Under their logic, I suppose banning video games would be the next logical move.

Because Millions upon Millions of ruthless cold-blooded killers are training on their x-box's as we speak.

Im pretty sure galaga made you want to just kill someone too.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:58 PM

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The shooter, who sources identified as Adam Lanza, 20, shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, in the face at their home in Newtown, Conn., then went to nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School where she taught and gunned down her entire class, according to sources.



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