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Hitler didnít kill himself in Berlin


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#76    Spectre1979

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:24 AM

View Postbigtroutak, on 20 October 2011 - 11:01 PM, said:

I know , i'm certainly not claiming that it is FACT that Ole Adolf escaped, just that it is as plausible as any other theory given the lack of evidence.

IMO Hitler making a deal with Eisenhower for hidden technologies and scientists makes the most sense, especially since there are apparently more witnesses who saw him in Argentina than who saw him shoot himself.

Its not like our government was exactly driven by morals back then : http://en.wikipedia....ilis_experiment

Just a small example

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:43 PM

View Postbigtroutak, on 20 October 2011 - 11:01 PM, said:

I know , i'm certainly not claiming that it is FACT that Ole Adolf escaped, just that it is as plausible as any other theory given the lack of evidence.

IMO Hitler making a deal with Eisenhower for hidden technologies and scientists makes the most sense, especially since there are apparently more witnesses who saw him in Argentina than who saw him shoot himself.

Its not like our government was exactly driven by morals back then : http://en.wikipedia....ilis_experiment

Just a small example

How though? The Russians were in complete control of Berlin. I doubt they would have allowed the Americans to walk in and grab Hitler with a bunch of loot.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 06:08 PM

For those of you who believe that the history you were taught is the truth then skip my comment and continue to be a good sheeple. The truth is that what you are told is no where near the truth about history. Hitler and the Nazis war were financed by the very same bankers as the Allies. We entered that war in the same fashion as we entered all wars, concocted lies and misinformation.

The War Machine is a huge business, and do you think that American corporations wouldn’t support both sides? You would be wrong. IBM got busted supporting the Nazis and even sending American technicians into Concentration Camps to maintain the IBM equipment sold to the Nazis. By the way, when IBM got caught, all the U.S. government did was slap them on the wrist with a small financial penalty. Anyone remember reading about that in history class in school?

Not to mention, Hitler had support of the Pope as well.

Do you think it’s possible that the U.S. Government faked Hitler’s death? Absolutely, it’s still happening today (Bin Laden) who by the way was on the American payroll for years before 9/11 and his family has business connections with the Bush family. The wealthy bankers who control governments (including the U.S.) and finance wars because they makes billions in profit from them are powerful enough to start them.

Could he have survived and gone to Argentina. I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

Edited by Swadwa, 23 October 2011 - 06:09 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2011 - 10:59 PM

View PostSwadwa, on 23 October 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

For those of you who believe that the history you were taught is the truth then skip my comment and continue to be a good sheeple. The truth is that what you are told is no where near the truth about history. Hitler and the Nazis war were financed by the very same bankers as the Allies. We entered that war in the same fashion as we entered all wars, concocted lies and misinformation.

The War Machine is a huge business, and do you think that American corporations wouldnít support both sides? You would be wrong. IBM got busted supporting the Nazis and even sending American technicians into Concentration Camps to maintain the IBM equipment sold to the Nazis. By the way, when IBM got caught, all the U.S. government did was slap them on the wrist with a small financial penalty. Anyone remember reading about that in history class in school?

Not to mention, Hitler had support of the Pope as well.

Do you think itís possible that the U.S. Government faked Hitlerís death? Absolutely, itís still happening today (Bin Laden) who by the way was on the American payroll for years before 9/11 and his family has business connections with the Bush family. The wealthy bankers who control governments (including the U.S.) and finance wars because they makes billions in profit from them are powerful enough to start them.

Could he have survived and gone to Argentina. I donít know, but I wouldnít be surprised.

Wow "Sheeple", the whole none yards, almost, in one post!

Even the redundant and nonsensical usage of that term, "sheeple"!


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Posted 23 October 2011 - 11:51 PM

View PostMID, on 23 October 2011 - 10:59 PM, said:

...the whole none yards, almost, in one post!

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

View PostJerry Only, on 23 October 2011 - 11:51 PM, said:

Sweet Freudian slip!

        Yes, it is the whole nine yards indeed. I have learned that my church, IBM and the US financed the Nazi regime. Who would have known? LOL Gheese Louise, I guess Hitler is living in a mansion in the Hamptons which is financed by the Vatican and IBM. I bet all those rascals ( genocidal maniacs) are living near his neighborhood as well.:whistle:

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 03:32 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 24 October 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Yes, it is the whole nine yards indeed. I have learned that my church, IBM and the US financed the Nazi regime. Who would have known? LOL Gheese Louise, I guess Hitler is living in a mansion in the Hamptons which is financed by the Vatican and IBM. I bet all those rascals ( genocidal maniacs) are living near his neighborhood as well.:whistle:

Im not sure what the point of this post is..are you trying to refute the facts or just being a nationalist?

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 03:37 PM

View Postbigtroutak, on 24 October 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

Im not sure what the point of this post is..are you trying to refute the facts or just being a nationalist?

       I was being jokingly sarcastic. Don't take it to heart and I would have to see those "facts" written and proven. I have heard many of these " rumours but I never knew they were concrete facts, thats is all I am saying. Conspiracy theories abound in regards to Hitler and his regime. Very few of these statements you made were proven but...I am open.

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So, I am not a Nationalist but can be when needed.

Edited by Robbie333, 24 October 2011 - 03:41 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 03:49 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 24 October 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

I was being jokingly sarcastic. Don't take it to heart and I would have to see those "facts" written and proven. I have heard many of these " rumours but I never knew they were concrete facts, thats is all I am saying. Conspiracy theories abound in regards to Hitler and his regime. Very few of these statements you made were proven but...I am open.

     Nationalist :Nationalism at various times has come to denote different things at different periods; it has been associated with racial superiority as in Germany in Nazi times or it has meant the struggle for independence of African and Asian nations against colonial rule of European nations.
So, I am not a Nationalist but can be when needed.

As for the facts, I know the IBM story is true as for the rest i'll be honest I'm at work and don't really feel like googling links LOL.....Oh Ok here's a couple about IBM: http://www.cbsnews.c...04730.shtml†††† http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

Make sure and read the whole CBS article, the last paragraph is very telling.

Anyways, to me in the 21st century a nationalist is anyone who can ignore or deny their nation's atrocities regardless of severity or evidence.  After 10 years of war I see alot of that in these forums and in everyday life.

Edited by bigtroutak, 24 October 2011 - 03:50 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:19 PM

View Postbigtroutak, on 24 October 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

As for the facts, I know the IBM story is true as for the rest i'll be honest I'm at work and don't really feel like googling links LOL.....Oh Ok here's a couple about IBM: http://www.cbsnews.c...ain504730.shtml     http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

Make sure and read the whole CBS article, the last paragraph is very telling.

Anyways, to me in the 21st century a nationalist is anyone who can ignore or deny their nation's atrocities regardless of severity or evidence.  After 10 years of war I see alot of that in these forums and in everyday life.



      I have a hard time believing any of the millions of hits on any conpiracy theories on the web. I am speaking of " legitimate" copies of legal paperwork on these alleged deeds. Also, the US has never committed any atrocities since the genocide of the Native Americans.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:23 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 24 October 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

I have a hard time believing any of the millions of hits on any conpiracy theories on the web. I am speaking of " legitimate" copies of legal paperwork on these alleged deeds. Also, the US has never committed any atrocities since the genocide of the Native Americans.


There is serious need for a sarcasm font

Edited by bigtroutak, 24 October 2011 - 04:24 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:22 PM

View Postbigtroutak, on 24 October 2011 - 04:23 PM, said:

There is serious need for a sarcasm font

      LOL, rest easy. It is only my opinion and like other things, we all have one, LOL

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 10:41 PM

Anythings possible, it wouldnt have been hard for Hitler to dress in Russian uniform and escape, What do you believe when our History has been manipulated mis-information and propoganda. The Jewish population in Germany was 500,000 and somehow the Jews will have you believe 6000000 were gassed. Take into the account the Typhus Epidemic, Starvation/ Malnutrition and the overworked workers in Labour Camps the Holocaust figures are over exaggerated. How can Hitler be blamed for the Final Solution when all countries closed there borders to Jews, the English closed the gates at Palestine and protected it with Warships, the richer Jews in Germany chose to flee and not help there poorer people. Poland were dumping there Jews at the German border. Hitlers idea was to emigrate the Jews out of Germany and Poland. It wouldn't suprise me if Hitler was delibrately put in this situation so the State of Israel could be created and financed with Germany's compensation for the Holocaust.


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Posted 25 October 2011 - 03:58 AM

View PostSpid3rCyd3, on 20 October 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

Really?! That's all too convenient, eh?  <_<
I fail to see how this is "all too convenient." These relatives had nothing to do with the Nazi Party (if i recall, they've been in America since before the war) and have been trying for well over half a century to distance themselves from the horrors of the 3. Reich. Believe it or not, some people have had family experiences that they want to forget. I'm sure some of the posters here have ancestors or some relation to the people that took part in driving Native Americans from their land, perhaps even contributing to the starving deaths of women and children as the natives were "relocated." Every country has its dark history, not everyone took part, or wants to be reminded that a relative did.

Edited by Muenzenhamster, 25 October 2011 - 04:00 AM.


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Posted 25 October 2011 - 04:06 AM

View PostHalloween78, on 20 October 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:

The 1st pic is from a slightly different angle. Look to the top and right of the red square, you can see the white sleeve or whatever it is. The square has been placed around the empty space between the head and the white sleeve.
This widely publicized photo of Hitler's Doppelgšnger is just that, Hitler's double. It can be doctored and retouched all that anyone would like. It is still not a picture of Hitler, and proves no conspiracy whatsoever, sorry.





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