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[docyabut2]

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Well the US could sell them a hundred dollar a barrel of fresh water

[and then]

I guess they had better do like Israel and invest in desalination plants.  Expensive I guess but it beats the alternative and it's not like they don't have the cash.

[Br Cornelius]

and then, on 13 February 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

I guess they had better do like Israel and invest in desalination plants.  Expensive I guess but it beats the alternative and it's not like they don't have the cash.

Massively expensive in terms of their long term climate impacts. Desalination plants create massive carbon emissions which in turn leads to climate change which will make for greater desertification in those areas running low onn water. Treating water as an infinite resource without consequence is the real issue here. We all waste massively to much fresh water because we have been taught thats acceptable to simply flush it down the drain.

What will become of all those expensive desalination plants when oil doubles in price again ?

Br Cornelius

[Babe Ruth]

Just as we are experiencing climate change here on Earth, there is evidence that other planets in our solar system are and have been undergoing even more significant climate change.

I think there will come a time when water is more rare than oil, and thus more valuable.

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Babe Ruth, on 13 February 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Just as we are experiencing climate change here on Earth, there is evidence that other planets in our solar system are and have been undergoing even more significant climate change.

I think there will come a time when water is more rare than oil, and thus more valuable.

There will be enough water, just not there where people need it.

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Br Cornelius, on 13 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Massively expensive in terms of their long term climate impacts. Desalination plants create massive carbon emissions which in turn leads to climate change which will make for greater desertification in those areas running low onn water. Treating water as an infinite resource without consequence is the real issue here. We all waste massively to much fresh water because we have been taught thats acceptable to simply flush it down the drain.

What will become of all those expensive desalination plants when oil doubles in price again ?

Br Cornelius

There are other methods than these energy guzzling plants in use nowadays, solar desalination (as used in small scales in the Canary Islands) could be an option. reverse osmosis powered by wind turbines another. Just the initial investment would be a little higher.

[Br Cornelius]

Babe Ruth, on 13 February 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Just as we are experiencing climate change here on Earth, there is evidence that other planets in our solar system are and have been undergoing even more significant climate change.

I think there will come a time when water is more rare than oil, and thus more valuable.

Show some evidence for consistent climate change across the solar system which cannot be attributable to orbital systems. Its warming in the Northern hemisphere than it was two months ago, I wonder why ??

Br Cornelius

[Jackofalltrades]

Babe Ruth, on 13 February 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Just as we are experiencing climate change here on Earth, there is evidence that other planets in our solar system are and have been undergoing even more significant climate change.

I think there will come a time when water is more rare than oil, and thus more valuable.

Could be the reason why there are some people/companies buying up all or a majority of the land surrounding the freshwater lakes in USA...

[Rafterman]

I'd be happy to trade them one barrel of oil for one barrel of water.

Drink up fellas!

[the-Unexpected-Soul]

you are kidding guys?, in Saudi Arabia oil is cheaper than water, 1 liter of oil cost 0.12 $ , while 1 liter of water cost 0.45 $
you can give them one barrel of water and they give you two barrels of oil

Edited by the-Unexpected-Soul, 13 February 2013 - 04:01 PM.

[Doug1o29]

How about that?  Faux News finally got something right!

Ground water depletion is a problem in many parts of the world, mostly due to simple over-use and mismanagement.  It's going to be a problem in the US, too.  The Ogalalah, Snake River and Imperial Valley aquifers (our big three) are all dropping.

Desalinization is the solution, but it is expensive.  Most of the world's worst depletion problems are in semi-desert areas where there's lots of wind and sunshine.  Even a small current is enough to run a desalinization process, so even a small windmill could do the job.  What if the wind's not blowing?  That's what reservoirs are for.
Doug

[Doug1o29]

Br Cornelius, on 13 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

What will become of all those expensive desalination plants when oil doubles in price again ?

Br Cornelius

Don't power them with oil.
Doug

[Babe Ruth]

Br Cornelius, on 13 February 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Show some evidence for consistent climate change across the solar system which cannot be attributable to orbital systems. Its warming in the Northern hemisphere than it was two months ago, I wonder why ??

Br Cornelius

I was remiss in not mentioning that I just read that last week in David Wilcock's book, The Source Field Investigations, which I have now finished.

Near the end he cites sources from NASA and other scientific places, that for the last 10 years or so(?) the climates on other planets, as we observe them, have changed considerably.  I find it interesting that such is happening throughout the solar system.

[freetoroam]

the-Unexpected-Soul, on 13 February 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

you are kidding guys?, in Saudi Arabia oil is cheaper than water, 1 liter of oil cost 0.12 $ , while 1 liter of water cost 0.45 $
you can give them one barrel of water and they give you two barrels of oil

That sounds like a better deal....done....I am going over there before Evian do. (wonder of they want some can of baked beans too, just a thought).

[and then]

Br Cornelius, on 13 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Massively expensive in terms of their long term climate impacts. Desalination plants create massive carbon emissions which in turn leads to climate change which will make for greater desertification in those areas running low onn water. Treating water as an infinite resource without consequence is the real issue here. We all waste massively to much fresh water because we have been taught thats acceptable to simply flush it down the drain.

What will become of all those expensive desalination plants when oil doubles in price again ?

Br Cornelius

I guess they'll convert to natural gs which they just found in incredible abundance off the coast?  I understand and do not ridicule your point about the impacts of the carbon - but sometimes one chooses between two evils.  Water is a resource that cannot be done without - the rest can be dealt with in time.