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The Turin Shroud ( Cont'd )


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#16    Althalus

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Posted 17 May 2003 - 08:13 PM

                                                  I remember reading somewhere a while back that it was said that clones do not have souls, as they are assentially a double of someone else.                                                  
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Posted 17 May 2003 - 11:46 PM

                                                  ok, so if a clone doesnt have a soul, how can it be a double. since the origional had one. that would mean that they arnt duplicates, but just the outer shells of us                                                  
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Posted 18 May 2003 - 10:28 AM

                                                  The way I understood it, the only thing that is cloned is the body and not the soul, as it can not be, being insubstantial.                                                  
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Posted 19 May 2003 - 12:31 AM

                                                  Thats an interesting question ... It is a belief in some religions and one that I find facinating that the soul is made up of a collective concions (spelling) . That it is someway connected to every body as well as being an individual thing .
  so as my soul wich resides both in my body and as a part of the collective conscience (second attempt :0) ) may also reside partly in someone else's body .  This would mean that it would be possible to share the soul ether out amongst  clones allowing them to have a soul also .
   Perhaps even a new soul can be created when a birth takes place who knows  , very interesting indeed .


   Now I just have to get this darn Wizard of OZ song out of my head   huh.gif

  P.S I still don't know how anybody will be able to tell for sure that they have  Jesus's DNA.                                                  


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Posted 19 May 2003 - 09:20 AM

                                                  not sure about the DNA either, but it was just an assumption                                                  
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Posted 20 May 2003 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (Kismit @ May 19 2003, 12:31 AM)
P.S I still don't know how anybody will be able to tell for sure that they have  Jesus's DNA.

                                                  Exactly what I was thinking Kismet wink.gif, Even if they did manage to get a sample from the 'Shroud', What the hell are they going to compare it to ?                                                    
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Posted 20 May 2003 - 12:55 PM

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Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense. ~ Carl Sagan

"...man has an irrepressible tendency to read meaning into the buzzing confusion of sights and sounds impinging on his senses; and where no agreed meaning can be found, he will provide it out of his own imagination." ~ Arthur Koestler




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