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#1981    sards

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:05 AM

Quite a roundabout this.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:44 AM

I avoided this post since the start. Now that I know Sakari was the OP I'm curious to read through some of it. (I usually post/look from my phone)

Interesting idea. Has he come up with anything since? It's been hundreds of pages since...

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 12:38 AM

View PostTwilightSilver, on 12 March 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

I avoided this post since the start. Now that I know Sakari was the OP I'm curious to read through some of it. (I usually post/look from my phone)

Interesting idea. Has he come up with anything since? It's been hundreds of pages since...

You will have to read through it :)

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

I have been rereading this train wreck of a thread (No offense to Sakari but over half of the posts i have had read so far has been people arguing amongst themselves about how gifted they are or giving idol warnings to sakari) and I have slowly been cataloging each suggestion once (As in the first person who suggest it) and will post this bucket list to avoid future suggestions (keep in mind people normally just read the first post and just reply).

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

Are there actually gifted people here or do most want to feel gifted


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:39 PM

View Postsards, on 13 March 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Are there actually gifted people here or do most want to feel gifted

*derail time*

The ones who claim to be gifted fall into four catagories.

A) They like to advertise, brag and openly talk as if they know what they are talking about. They are the ones who reply to almost every thread and have a rediculas high post count over a month, more than even the members who been active for years here. The people who claim they are gifted want to feel special, admired or want to feel they have control of their "life" and even convince themselves to the point that they swear to their grave.

When it comes down to the crunch when people here ask questions about these so called claims, the "gifted" would pull the "I don't need to prove you any thing" card and expect that to sit in the water, except it floats like oil.

B) They want to convince people they he or she is gifted and go far to try and make a buck, such as selling haunted items or buying their merchandise etc. It doesn't last very long here.

C) Certain people at some point will admit secretly or even in openl to having mental health problems, some even say that their mental health problem is the true cause of their gift. We had one guy who posted he was biopolar and is cronic depressed and was able to see into the souls of people and know when they die and can do it by looking at people photos.

D) People who are amature writers and testing their creativity here. They the ones who post a couple of posts and vanish. Most the time those stories go in par with the movies or popular books or tv shows or even internet stories (Slanderman).

Edited by Brian Topp, 13 March 2013 - 08:39 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:06 PM

Brian... how do mental problems cancel out possible "gifts"? Or altered states of perception to the "mystical" extent? What category would you put me there?

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

View PostMikko-kun, on 13 March 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

Brian... how do mental problems cancel out possible "gifts"? Or altered states of perception to the "mystical" extent? What category would you put me there?
I never said cancel, We have had members who say their bipolar or depression, drug addiction, and other mental health problems have gave them their gift or enchanced it.

As for you, Mikko-kun, what does a single small minded skeptic matter to the "gifted"? I really never read your posts or memorized your user name if i did read them. I could class you in one of those four catagories but then that will cause tension and debates here and I think there is enough debates in this topic and we just end up derailing sakari long dead thread.

And If you think this need further discussion then we should do it on another thread.

Edited by Brian Topp, 13 March 2013 - 09:23 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:12 PM

I'm not gifted, unfortunately... maybe I had some when I was at pre-school, but that's about it. It's okay if you dont really read my posts and even if you still categorize me on one of those four things.. I dont want to cause any tension either, you're not all-bad guy either you know. But you're just contradicting yourself a bit there, four categories, you think you could put me to one of those but you've not read much of what I've written nor remember it really. I'm not saying I'm any better when it comes to prejudices :) on the contrary, but I think it's just healthy to recognice that we're talking about prejudices here. To each to his own, in any case.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

View PostBrian Topp, on 13 March 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

I have been rereading this train wreck of a thread (No offense to Sakari but over half of the posts i have had read so far has been people arguing amongst themselves about how gifted they are or giving idol warnings to sakari) and I have slowly been cataloging each suggestion once (As in the first person who suggest it) and will post this bucket list to avoid future suggestions (keep in mind people normally just read the first post and just reply).


Would love to see it.....I tried to go back and jot it all down, but as you said, train wreck.....And, no offense taken.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:04 PM

View PostBrian Topp, on 13 March 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:



*derail time*

The ones who claim to be gifted fall into four catagories.

A) They like to advertise, brag and openly talk as if they know what they are talking about. They are the ones who reply to almost every thread and have a rediculas high post count over a month, more than even the members who been active for years here. The people who claim they are gifted want to feel special, admired or want to feel they have control of their "life" and even convince themselves to the point that they swear to their grave.

When it comes down to the crunch when people here ask questions about these so called claims, the "gifted" would pull the "I don't need to prove you any thing" card and expect that to sit in the water, except it floats like oil.

B) They want to convince people they he or she is gifted and go far to try and make a buck, such as selling haunted items or buying their merchandise etc. It doesn't last very long here.

C) Certain people at some point will admit secretly or even in openl to having mental health problems, some even say that their mental health problem is the true cause of their gift. We had one guy who posted he was biopolar and is cronic depressed and was able to see into the souls of people and know when they die and can do it by looking at people photos.

D) People who are amature writers and testing their creativity here. They the ones who post a couple of posts and vanish. Most the time those stories go in par with the movies or popular books or tv shows or even internet stories (Slanderman).
Though not at all a bad analysis of some, you are makeing some big generelazations there. One could easily say that yourself is fulfilling a psychological need to put down others and raise your own status.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:02 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 15 March 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Though not at all a bad analysis of some, you are makeing some big generelazations there. One could easily say that yourself is fulfilling a psychological need to put down others and raise your own status.

There are subclasses, just like every thing in life.

I don't have a status, if i did, i certainly wouldn't be hanging around on a forum!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

Well I have a damn high post count, mainly because I don't have anything else to do; I hate TV and am accustomed to being very busy and now I am having a health-enforced rest.

I don't think I'm gifted spiritually or in any psychic way, and I don't believe in any of the stuff posted here, although I can't say I disbelieve either.  I do like attention when it is friendly.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

Introduction:
After reading the same suggestions, I have decided to create this post for those who want to add a suggestion but don't want to read all 10,000 posts and not have the filter people posting "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?" with sakari explaining why, or people advertising how magical they are, or arguments etc it was getting old. A lot of people recommended the same thing over and over, i just picked the first person who suggested it.


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Brown is my comments as a skeptic.

Sakari's Bucket List:
1. Cybele recommended to do Lesser and Greater Keys of Solomon

2. Kazahel suggested to buy a webcam.

3. Kazahel recommended to astral project with your eyes with rituals called LBRP. Kaz also suggested lucid dreaming.

4. puridalan Said to try and stare at a dead relative's photo and imagine the dead relative. If any thing comes to mind, write it down.

5. puridalan also mentioned about backwards projection.

6. louisvilleseeker advised to do a pagan summoning ritual, involving a pentagram as a summoning circle, forget to destroy the circle and the spirit will be bound the the spot/ house.

7A. Big Chief, Swore in an offensive manner and said you need the power of belief to summon a spirit, he then suggested to do ouija. he later tells sakari to record himself doing it on video.

7B.Evo Pressed further on the oujia board, use a wooden one in which the characters were emblazoned with fire or a very hot object. Must have a high spirital power (DBZ reference),  

7C. Sakari got a PM of unknamed person. Home made necklace of metal thread on a home made oujia board made of paper. move necklace while saying simple words. Must have spirit power!

8. Giavanna Said with confidence to Put blood on clear white paper and burn it. Chant aloud that you are offering up a sacrifice to them. (note, Did not mention what type of chant)

9. puridalan wanted sakari's picture to curse/place negative life summon a spirit/demon, then backs out.

10. Conditor Malorum mentioned about Painting some big veves on your wall, or on some posterboard that you attach to your wall. then disrespecting them.

11. DawnieK Recommend sleep/meditation laying down. Also Oujia

12. Akatsuki-pein Says to knock on the devils door.

13. Evo said to stay in the boog (Sand Lick) for a while, because it has a lot of things happen there.

14. markprice said, table turning. Check out Carl Jung's experience in Jung on Synchronicity and the paranormal, and Eliphas Levi Transcendental Magic its Doctrine and Ritual if you are curious.

15. Kazahel gives the Link (Of The Arte Goetia)

16. bornmystic mentions about lucid dreaming and meditation

17. xcodesia Says to go to a remote house that is considered haunted and ask questions over and over.

18. chaosdarksoulz Says to shut all doors (except one) and windows, make a circle of salt around you and sit in it.

19. PETER GORE SEER, Said to buy a spirit with money from a demon on a website.

20. Waymarker believes if you are an evil person you will get evil spirits. (Wouldn't prisons be the most heavily haunted place on earth? and wouldn't weird and unsusual things happen?)

21. Enoonmai said sketch an inter dimensional entity, using The Amalantrah Working.

22.scepticalbeliever talks about knowing a spirit planetry hour and draw it's seal on a blank peice of paper and have some incense burning, poke your finger and put the blood on the paper.

23. scepticalbeliever goes completely off topic and tells you to light a green candle (made by yourself prefered) and then scratch the amount of money you want and the next day you find it in your yard. (if this was true the enconemy would collapse from every one being rich!)

24.Shadesong inquired if Sakari tried using techniques night-time, candles, mirrors, sigils, and milk and cookies.

25. regandpip suggest reading a book called summoning spirits.

26.UFO_Monster informs sakari to hire a witch.

27.Auto-GAsks for sakari's gps coordinates so he can send a demon. (seriously, Demons have GPS' now?)

28.Banshee Song suggesting to go to hell gate locations or drinking bloody mary (or maybe do bloody mary in the mirror?)

29.gambino78 openly suggest sakari to summon baal (yet failed to tell sakari HOW)

30.metaphysical implies that you must have a near death experience to see a ghost, or starve for two days also can call ghosts (ahh, hallucinations? I starved for a week when i was a child and i didn't see any demons or spirits)

31.Thelea said she uses a bait to get spirits to show themselves. Works every time. Too bad she can't remember it's ingredients. (ironic). Then suggests, Diethyl ether, Sage oil, Rosemary oil, Oil of Amber/Amber oil, Distilled water, human Blood, heliotrope. Instructions Water-other liquid-solid, amount of the three oils don't matter, according to her just few drops should be fine, at least that's how much she puts. Place in a small (coloured) glass container. open container, you can also empty it on a wide plate/bowl, or pour to ground. (This is close to lighter fluid)

32.Purifier said to use dowsing rods.

33._Only say do not sleep for 72 hours and walk, you see shadow people (it's called sleep deprivation)

34.metaphysicalSuggest using black magic via google.

35. rashore acutally gives a more original idea apart from the damn oujia boards, take dirt from a grave and make a mud- apply to the eyelids.

36.Seeker79 Tells sakari to I will make my way to Oregon. I will meet you a designated place... Just you and I will decend into the wilderness. We will not speak a word to each other. (He said he doesn't garentee ghosts but sakari will walk out a changed man)


37.  Hartmut produce the claim of researching TULPA, with the power of postive or negative thinking.

38.Apopo said to kick a grave.

39.  lighting candles, chanting/praying to certain diety/demon on a certain moon light

40. djainir suggests to have a shower and enter a dark room with no light and chant YAYARAI. DADA ARDI. YAMAYYITI. 1000 times

41.FlyingAngel believes that sakari's angel is protecting him and needs to dimiss it by saying in your mind to stop protecting you and let the evil spirit approach you, and live at your place. Do this three times at night (Wouldn't it work any time since the angel is with you 24-7??)

Hey Mr. Tallyman bring me a banana
1. people claiming it was a bad idea: 61
2. Skeptics that say nothing will happen: 9
3. Suggestion of using oujia board: 25
4. People claiming they know how and won't tell: 17

5. People putting curses or summon spirits on Sakari: 6
6. Jokes about drinking "spirits" aka booze: 10
7. Jokes about upsetting your spouse or getting married: 6
8. People who claim to read the entire thread (up to that point) but post the exact same thing: 4
9: Joke about politicians or fbi/cia: 5
10: jokes about inlaws: 7
11. Suggestions on traveling to haunted locations: 5
12: Suggestions on seeing a minister or church: 7
13. how many claiming you need belief/fear of god/spirit energy: 15
14. Suggestion of using drugs: 5
15. How many people know How to get rid of them: 17
16. Recommend going to a satanic church: 4

Wait, What?
From my reading I learned a lot of beliefs that i feel condricting.
1. Spirits only haunt evil people. VS You need to have spirital powers to see it.
2. You need more people for oujia board VS you only need 1 person to do it.
3. You/Skeptics lack the power of belief/spirit/fear of god to summon/see a ghost. I find this strange since it's saying Skeptics are immune, So the belief can kill?
4. People know all these techniques but failing to explain the method to doing it.

5. People insist on commiting crimes, like rape, murder etc.  I find it amusing how quite a few say his yet i never heard of a pyschic coming publicly and saying "that man is a bad man, he has evil spirits" before the criminal was arrested.
6. They say you Need spirit power or belief yet they fail to summon a ghost or demon themselves on sakari.


Things I thought people would suggest but didn't:
1. Play a record backwards, sing with it.
2. Defile a church.
3. Drive to haunted locations where you have ghost hitchhikers
4. wear a bed sheet on with eye holes and look at yourself in a mirror.
5. give a recipe on a meal as a joke.
6. joke about the movie ghost busters

Edited by Brian Topp, 15 March 2013 - 04:56 PM.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

Well almost 5 years being here i finally hit over 1k posts.

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