devvo Posted November 8, 2004 #1 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Has anyone ever heard of the legend of this big dino who lives in africa somewhere and haunts and scares even terrorizes the local people , im interested because i once saw a program about it on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 8, 2004 #2 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Errmm... yes I heard about this fella, but I'm a bit skeptic. On the other hand, the last dinosaur became extinct only 15,000 years ago, so who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugnugget Posted November 8, 2004 #3 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Yep i've heard of it, supposedly on the congo river, overturns the odd boat and scares the hell outta the locals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted November 8, 2004 #4 Share Posted November 8, 2004 What is interesting about this is that many of the stories that allegedly came from the natives concerning the behaviour of the beast mimic what scientists used to think of sauropod behaviour back in the days, but now consider to be incorrect. There were stories of the animals reaching up to the tops of trees with their necks, while today scientists do not believe the long neck could have supported the weight vertically, and stories of the animal lounging in the swamplands, when today people think they lived on dry land instead. In short, there is more evidence that the legend was created by the explorers than by the natives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diebytheflyguy Posted November 8, 2004 #5 Share Posted November 8, 2004 (edited) They say this creature is a herbivore. "Living in the jungles of central Africa countries of Congo, Cameroon, and Gabon are reports of animal an animal with a long neck, a long tail, and rounded shape tracks with three claws. The closest known animal that has these characteristics is a sauropod dinosaur." Info! Size comparison: Can you see a long thin creature swimmming?: The creatures lair?: Links: Good read! Skeptic view! Edited November 8, 2004 by Diebytheflyguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_5150 Posted November 8, 2004 #6 Share Posted November 8, 2004 There seems to be alot of reports of dinosaur-like creatures and I'm starting to doubt they're complete extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 8, 2004 #7 Share Posted November 8, 2004 It doesn't neccesary have to be a dinosaur - it could be a reptile that evolved to look similiar, maybe a lizard or something. Actually, I would be surprised if no reptile evolved to a shape similiar to some dinosaurs, as no matter how the climate changed on earth, dinosaurs were the most successfull creation for tens of millions of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 8, 2004 #8 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Or maybe it is a giant long-neck tutrle, like these ones: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos Posted November 8, 2004 #9 Share Posted November 8, 2004 hmm, I don't know about that. People never describe a shell on Mokele Mbembe. Its always said to have smooth leathery red skin, but no shell. and when showed drawings of sauropods they identify them as Mokele Mbembe. Mokele also has a long tail. Interesting theory though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Oguh2 Posted November 9, 2004 #10 Share Posted November 9, 2004 everyone on this forum heard about the mokele mbembe. its so cool that is the only unexplained mystery i am 100% that it is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_halo Posted November 9, 2004 #11 Share Posted November 9, 2004 i love the idea that a dinosaur could still be alive somewhere in the world but... i can't see a dinosaur surviving until the present day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 9, 2004 #12 Share Posted November 9, 2004 I agree with mr halo. I too do not believe that dinosaurs, other than birds, have survived to this day. What could be possible is that a reptile evolved into something similiar, becuase the conditions in the Congo forest are similiar to those of the dinosaur ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugnugget Posted November 9, 2004 #13 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Yes, but crocodiles have lived in the same environments for millions of years and have hardly changed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 9, 2004 #14 Share Posted November 9, 2004 True, but Crocodiles and Sea turtles (another reptile that survived to this day) managed to survive because of the wide range of their leaving envirement. There was this show on the National Geographic channel some year ago, and the crocodiles are equipted with number of features that helped them become the perfect survivors that they are today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diebytheflyguy Posted November 9, 2004 #15 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Frogs and other reptiles have been around just as long as Crocs and Sea Turtles. What do you account their survival to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 9, 2004 #16 Share Posted November 9, 2004 (edited) They were small and fast moving. Sauropods were anything but small. I could understand if theropods, which did have some small species, could survive to this day. As a matter of fact, birds, which are theropods, survived mainly because they were small and fast and could go from one envierment to next quite fast. This too though didn't help many birds who became extinct with other theropods 65 million years ago. But Sauropods were just too big and heavy to survive such a drastic change. And also many reptiles did become extinct with the dinos, the reptiles we see today are only small percentage that did make it. Edited November 9, 2004 by Erikl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted November 10, 2004 #17 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I read a lot about Mokele mbembe. Initially it seemed to me possible the presence of a dinosaur in unexplored areas of Africa. However, several serious expeditions had failed in finding any evidence of the existence of this cryptid. Furthermore, they found contradictions in the stories of some of people that claimed to have whatched it....so I am exceptical now. What I am sure is that in the swamps of Congo there are many undiscovered species ready to be discovered provided it is a huge unexplored area of difficult access with very high biodiversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_halo Posted November 10, 2004 #18 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Frogs and other reptiles have been around just as long as Crocs and Sea Turtles. What do you account their survival to? 350070[/snapback] they are small and can hide.. also frogs have been known to survive inside a rock...in a sort of hibernation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diebytheflyguy Posted November 10, 2004 #19 Share Posted November 10, 2004 ^ Yes in the winter, they shut their bodies down and freeze themselves until the weather is warm enough for them to thaw out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devvo Posted November 10, 2004 Author #20 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Frogs and other reptiles have been around just as long as Crocs and Sea Turtles. What do you account their survival to? 350070[/snapback] I believe that something terrible happned - for example a meteor, creatures living in the water were able to withstand the years of darkness and duststorms. This is a good explination for fresh water creature like frogs and crocs. but im not shore about the dinos of the salt water kind!! What happened to them may i ask....? any ideas dudes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 10, 2004 #21 Share Posted November 10, 2004 devvo, it's not just the dinos. Any big air-breathing animal became extinct by whatever killed the dinosaurs. Turtles, crocs etc. weren't very big and thus were able to survive. If whales were to exist back then, they would have become extinct as well. This is the reason why plesiosauros and maosaurs and other big air-breathing reptiles became extinct. Sharks, on the other hand, and many kinds of fish, were able to survive, because they weren't affected by what happened outside the oceans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man_in_mudboots Posted November 10, 2004 #22 Share Posted November 10, 2004 and when showed drawings of sauropods they identify them as Mokele Mbembe. the natives have also identified elephants, hippos, and lions as 'mokele mombe'. anyway, theres a couple other threads on mokele around the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_halo Posted November 10, 2004 #23 Share Posted November 10, 2004 and when showed drawings of sauropods they identify them as Mokele Mbembe. the natives have also identified elephants, hippos, and lions as 'mokele mombe'. anyway, theres a couple other threads on mokele around the boards. 351375[/snapback] maybe the creature is just a elephant, i mean maybe they keep seeing elephants in the water with their trunks sticking out, and maybe the story has just been passed down over the years and exaggerated.... who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Oguh2 Posted November 11, 2004 #24 Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) I know! in cameroon if you ask the natives to show you a mokele mbembe they probably will. except you have to go threw miles and miles of swamps but in the end you will see one. not in congo though because of they think mokele mbembe are cursed. they are definetly not elephants because other people than natives saw them. guys stop inventing stupid excuses to explain weird stuff please just accept it Edited November 11, 2004 by Sir_Oguh2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted November 11, 2004 #25 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Maybe it is a forest elephant. They are much smaller than savanah elephants (rarely exeed 3m, usually about 2.5m), and they live in African jungles. Maybe it was this forest elephant, which is known to spend many hours in lakes, which they thought to be a dinosaur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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