Chrlzs, on 26 January 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:
One of the principles of a discussion forum is that you bring evidence *here*. That way you can put in your own words what impressed you and why, and the readers can judge how much weight your opinion should be given, and if it is worth visiting the site for further investigation.
So may I politely ask, could you or Elljay please offer a small quote of the most compelling evidence at that site, or at least summarise what they found and (much more importantly) how they applied some semblance of decent methodology?
Either way, when I have time I may go and take a long hard look, but I'm guessing this hasn't passed 'peer review' - otherwise I think I would have heard of it...
Yes, it looks at the wave function of sounds of various materials being 'rapped' or 'tapped' upon. Rapping is defined as a single strike to a surface by another object. It shows that with every case observed, the sound wave function starts at its highest amplitude, and gradually becomes lower. They then observed rapping sounds reported at several sites in which poltergeists were reported, as rapping is a common 'symptom' of these areas. They then recorded the rapping which is done here. Again, the sound is a single strike to a surface by another object, the only difference in the case of the poltergeist sites is that the objects being struck are a mystery. In all of these sounds, the rapping sounds' amplitudes started low, worked their way up to highest amplitude, and then lowered again. This goes against the findings of every other preliminary wave recording. The only other wave they'd found which followed this pattern, as far as noise goes, is caused by seismic activity. The study does not draw any final conclusions on this. It may be seismic activity at the poltergeist sites, but why so quietly, why only in those homes and not in others, and why so frequently, with no seeming correlation to fault lines? It was done quite well, in my opinion, and described perfectly well so it may be replicated by anyone with access to a reported poltergeist site.
Sakari, on 27 January 2013 - 12:07 AM, said:
Going into grave yards should only be to pay respects to loved ones.
The phrase " Rest in Peace " should say it all.
This is a matter of opinion, though. I think paying respect to the dead should be done merely for respect of the living, so the relatives do not need to see the memories of their loved ones disrespected. My goal is, one could argue, to pay a great respect to the dead by spending a few hours there in pursuit of getting the site left alone indefinitely if I can get the information publicized well enough.
Overdueleaf, on 27 January 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:
never enough evidence/proof for someone who chooses not to believe... simple enough...... have you asked her what it would take for her to believe rather than trying to smother her in pictures and stories that are so easily believed not to be true/real
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orangepeaceful79, on 27 January 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:
My advice - listen to your girlfriend. She's right. The sooner you figure that out you can get on with your life AND quit worrying about the paranormal. If she's an intelligent skeptic, then she will agree that there isn't anything thats been posted on this site, to date that is evidence of anything other than wishful thinking, pareidolia, hysteria, and confirmation bias.
How about tell her to sign up and see for herself? Obviously you are biased and going to be cherry-picking evidence anyway. To me the plethora of NON-evidence for the paranormal (fakes, mistakes, ignorance) is just as convincing as the lack of credible evidence. She should come see it all and decide for herself.
I am not smothering her, I asked her, she said convincing evidence. I am not trying to prove it exists, nor am I truly convinced that it is ghosts. As I've said several times over in this thread, it is the CHANCE that it might be possible.
I am also not cherry picking evidence. I am looking at it all. I admitted to her that 99% of what is out there, if not more, is total bs done for attention, money, fame, or just for the lulz. I am a very unbiased person. I also don't need to 'get on with my life.' My focus on the paranormal, if you can even call it that, is nothing more than an interest. I pay much more time and put in much more effort into practical, rational things in life, such as school, work, academic pursuits, leisure activities, etc. Your comment was so full of presumed thoughts that were pulled seemingly from nowhere, and in the future you should try to really make sure you're hitting the mark on your assumptions.
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