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[Mnemonix]

Just terrible.

[sarah_444]

Taun, on 05 December 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

This photographer is either a liar or a moron...

Probably both. How is a camera's flash supposed to catch the attention of the driver?  He claims he was not trying to photograph anything at all, right...and then he sold the pictures. ( or "licensed" them in his words) I can't believe anyone would actually believe that.

Whether or not he was the closest person to the guy or not, he should have tried to help. Everyone should have. Selling and printing the photos of someone's last moments alive is disgusting and cruel.

Edited by sarah_444, 05 December 2012 - 07:42 PM.

[Taun]

My main problems with the photographer were (first) taking the picture, then SELLING the picture to make money... and now of course lying about the whole thing... The paper is just as contemptable to me...

My contempt for the other people there is just as strong - except they didn't make money off of this man's death...


Reminds me of lines from the Gordon Lightfoot Song "Cold Hands From New York"

"I heard a young musician play in a place
Where they paid you not to listen
I heard a woman scream for help while men stood by
And offered their best wishes
That's how it is

It was too unreal for me
I found no one who trusted me
There was no man could offer me
A cold hand from New York

Cold hands from New York
A voice within you cries, "Won't someone please help me
I'll do the same for you one day
If you should ever pass my way and need me"

Edited by Taun, 05 December 2012 - 07:51 PM.

[Insaniac]

Reminds me of the bloke who took a picture of African child dying, rather than saving it: http://serendip.bryn...ange/node/10276

That photographer later took his own life out of guilt, or so I'm lead to believe.

Edited by Insaniac, 05 December 2012 - 07:47 PM.

[Insaniac]

Taun, on 05 December 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

My main problems with the photographer were (first) taking the picture, then SELLING the picture to make money... and now of course lying about the whole thing... The paper is just as contemptable to me...

My contempt for the other people there is just as strong - except they didn't make money off of this man's death...


Reminds me of lines from the Gordon Lightfoot Song "Cold Hands From New York"

"I heard a young musician play in a place
Where they paid you not to listen
I heard a woman scream for help while men stood by
And offered their best wishes
That's how it is

It was too unreal for me
I found no one who trusted me
There was no man could offer me
A cold hand from New York

Cold hands from New York
A voice within you cries, "Won't someone please help me
I'll do the same for you one day
If you should ever pass my way and need me"

Indeed. Also, Phil Collins "Another Day In Paradise."

[Taun]

Insaniac, on 05 December 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Reminds me of the bloke who took a picture of African child dying, rather than saving it: http://serendip.bryn...ange/node/10276

That photographer later took his own life out of guilt, or so I'm lead to believe.

It is beyond me how anyone could stand by and not at least TRY to help...

Sadly though, that child was probably beyond any help the photographer could have given - but a human would at least have TRIED...

[libstaK]

I can only get the gist of what happened from people's comments, won't read the article because I might just scream.  I simply cannot believe that a man died in a crowd of onlookers who had a whole minute to hoist him up onto the platform and out of harms way.  Then, I thought about the shock factor and the fear some might have that instead of pulling him up they too might fall onto the tracks in the attempt, people can behave like deer in the head lights sometimes.

This "photographer" however, wasn't in that state.  He was quite lucid and clear about taking a photo of the event when he could have been acting to save a life instead.  Total scum.

[Michelle]

If I wasn't able to pull the man to safety by myself I would have been screaming my head off for someone to come and help me. I don't know if I could live with myself for not at least trying.

[xCrimsonx]

If it had of been me I would have screamed at the last minute.,. "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE".

[tipotep]

What a dirt bag , I know if I was in the same situation I would do my best to help , there is no better feeling that being able to help someone in trouble and personally I think if you are un-willing  help someone who is in trouble , well ....you just suck !

TiP.

[Simbi Laveau]

http://www.dnainfo.c...lideshow/314122


http://newsinfo.inqu...ts-done-is-done

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 06 December 2012 - 11:41 AM.

[Insaniac]

Simbi Laveau, on 06 December 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

http://www.dnainfo.c...lideshow/314122


http://newsinfo.inqu...ts-done-is-done

My condolences go out to all his family. Rest in peace.

It's good to see they charged the guy with murder. I didn't read the links so wasn't aware he'd been pushed onto the tracks.

Edited by Insaniac, 06 December 2012 - 01:38 PM.

[coldethyl]

There is a sociology study that reveals that the more people that are present when another person is in need of help, the less likely people will not help.

[pallidin]

Right.
Surely with only less than 1 minute, most of the bystanders(and the victim of course) likely could hear/see the train coming.

While one could certainly be labled a "hero" for saving that man's life(which obviously did not happen), I'm not so sure that I could blame the bystanders for not placing their own selves in a potentially lethal situation during a rescue attempt.

Let's keep in mind that many people were MUCH closer to the victim than the photographer.

[coldethyl]

I'm certainly not excusing anyone, I'm just saying it is the way society functions.  It's screwed up.

You are more likely to get help the fewer people around.

My daughter just wrote a paper about it for her humanities class.  Very interesting.