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[through the fire]

skyeagle409, on 29 November 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Osama bin Laden was the leader of al-Qaeda who issued orders from a position of power, so it wouldn't have been difficult for al-Qaeda to
ascertained what happened to its senior leader. I am very sure that if an army general was killed, it wouldn't take long for his troops get the news.

You didn't answer the question. How would they possibly be able to know he was killed and not captured?

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through the fire, on 29 November 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

You didn't answer the question. How would they possibly be able to know he was killed and not captured?

What did his daughter say? Remember, she was an eyewitness and she didn't say her father was captured, but she did reveal he was killed. If he was captured, al-Qaeda would not have admitted he was killed by U.S. forces and family members, who were taken into custody, would have revealed his capture as well.

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skyeagle409, on 29 November 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

What did his daughter say? Remember, she was an eyewitness and she didn't say her father was captured, but she did reveal he was killed. If he
was captured, al-Qaeda would not have admitted he was killed by U.S. forces and family members, who were taken into custody, would have revealed his capture as well.

She didn't say anything. A Pakistani military source allegedly said she said her father was killed. And that article you linked to was last updated on the 4th of May 2011.

"al-Qaeda" seemed to "confirm" it very quickly. How long after the raid would they have access to meeting and talking to bin Ladens family?

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through the fire, on 29 November 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

She didn't say anything. A Pakistani military source allegedly said she said her father was killed. And that article you linked to was last updated on the 4th of May 2011.

"al-Qaeda" seemed to "confirm" it very quickly. How long after the raid would they have access to meeting and talking to bin Ladens family?

We can take a look here.

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'In Front of Her Eyes': Osama bin Laden's Teen Daughter Witnessed Death

In an hour-long exclusive interview with ABC News, the official said all of bin Laden's relatives who were captured are cooperating with intelligence. That includes his 13-year-old daughter, who witnessed his killing, bin Laden's youngest wife, who was injured while defending him, and about 6-7 other children.

http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=13527830

Which, coincides with what al-Qaeda has said.

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Al Qaeda admits bin Laden's death online

CAIRO - Al Qaeda on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and warned of retaliation, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness."

The confirmation came in an Internet statement posted on militant websites, signed by "the general leadership" of al Qaeda. The announcement opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and is a very likely contender to take his place.

The statement, dated May 3, was the first by the terror network since bin Laden was killed Monday by U.S. commandos in a raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The statement's authenticity could not be independently confirmed, but it was posted on websites where the group traditionally puts out its messages.

http://www.cbsnews.c...n20060382.shtml

http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=13527830

Simply capturing Osama bin Laden would have created problems.

Edited by skyeagle409, 29 November 2012 - 11:36 PM.

[with bells on]

yeah but the quote above says " The statement's authenticity could not be independently confirmed, but it was posted on websites where the group traditionally puts out its messages."  

how easy would it be to post on those sites?? real easy!!.. so that statement doesn't count.. its just so clearly obvious, as is everything to do with the whole 911 drama..  I'm just amazed that people still believe it all.. there is no need to provide proof and evidence like its demanded on these topics.. its plain as day obvious.. it was an inside job, dont be so gullible..

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with bells on, on 29 November 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

yeah but the quote above says " The statement's authenticity could not be independently confirmed, but it was posted on websites where the group traditionally puts out its messages."  

how easy would it be to post on those sites?? real easy!!.. so that statement doesn't count.. its just so clearly obvious, as is everything to do with the whole 911 drama..  I'm just amazed that people still believe it all.. there is no need to provide proof and evidence like its demanded on these topics.. its plain as day obvious.. it was an inside job, dont be so gullible..

It is no secret that al-Qaeda admitted that bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces and it was no secret that bin Laden's family was taken into custody shortly after the raid, and it was no secret that U.S. special forces were there because they left their calling card and it was no secret that there was a leadership change within al-Qaeda after the U.S. raid. In other words, bin Laden was no longer in the picture after May 2011. Where are you going to bury his body? Definitely not in the United States, but then again, why would the U.S. government bury him here anyway? Burying him on land would create a problem of its own.

To sum it up, it is just a matter of placing the pieces of the puzzle in the right place to determine what picture the puzzle depicts.

Edited by skyeagle409, 30 November 2012 - 12:06 AM.

[through the fire]

skyeagle409, on 29 November 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

We can take a look here.




Which, coincides with what al-Qaeda has said.







Simply capturing Osama bin Laden would have created problems.

So you actually think that by may 3rd al-Qaeda had access to bin Ladens 13 year old daughter and she confirmed to them that he was killed?

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through the fire, on 30 November 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

So you actually think that by may 3rd al-Qaeda had access to bin Ladens 13 year old daughter and she confirmed to them that he was killed?

With all of the noise generated during the raid, how long would it have taken Pakistani forces to respond?

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skyeagle409, on 30 November 2012 - 12:23 AM, said:

With all of the noise generated during the raid, how long would it have taken Pakistani forces to respond?

completely unrelated to the question. But I know where you're trying to go, basically word of mouth got it out.

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through the fire, on 30 November 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

completely unrelated to the question. But I know where you're trying to go, basically word of mouth got it out.

And, how was it determined that something was up during the raid at the residence of Osama bin Laden?

[through the fire]

skyeagle409, on 30 November 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:

And, how was it determined that something was up during the raid at the residence of Osama bin Laden?

Go on.

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through the fire, on 30 November 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

Go on.

One only has to figure that explosions and gunfire was going to attract attention that time of night.

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Bin Laden killed in fiery raid in Pakistan

Abbottabad resident Mohammad Haroon Rasheed said the raid happened about 1:15 a.m. local time.

"I heard a thundering sound, followed by heavy firing. Then firing suddenly stopped. Then more thundering, then a big blast," he said. "In the morning when we went out to see what happened, some helicopter wreckage was lying in an open field."

http://www.timesfree...-raid-pakistan/

It's vacation time tomorrow!!

Edited by skyeagle409, 30 November 2012 - 03:13 AM.

[acidhead]

skyeagle409, on 29 November 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Evidence, is the name of the game.

Yeah... and there is zero evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that OBL was killed by Seal Team 6 because they didn't allow any independent sources to vet the body.

You're gullible to believe this story without any proof.

And citing al-Qaeda as a source is even more dumb.

Edited by acidhead, 30 November 2012 - 03:59 AM.

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acidhead, on 30 November 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

Yeah... and there is zero evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that OBL was killed by Seal Team 6 because they didn't allow any independent sources to vet the body.

Apparently, the evidence was good enough for al-Qaeda, and as a result, they made a leadership change.

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You're gullible to believe this story without any proof.

I wouldn't say that! With over 40 years experience within the defense field, I know how things work in the background.

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And citing al-Qaeda as a source is even more dumb.

Al-Qaeda would never handed us an overwhelming victory in the eyes of the world. Study their mindset!  I might add that U.S. forces did not go to Pakistan for rest and recuperation.

Edited by skyeagle409, 30 November 2012 - 04:43 AM.

[acidhead]

skyeagle409, on 30 November 2012 - 04:40 AM, said:

Apparently, the evidence was good enough for al-Qaeda, and as a result, they made a leadership change.



I wouldn't say that! With over 40 years experience within the defense field, I know how things work in the background.



Al-Qaeda would never handed us an overwhelming victory in the eyes of the world. Study their mindset!  I might add that U.S. forces did not go to Pakistan for rest and recuperation.

Tell me more about this 'studying their mindset'.. please.

Edited by acidhead, 30 November 2012 - 06:14 AM.