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#61    joc

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:20 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 28 October 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Lets see, you claim that the white house knew this was a terrorist attack, fact is they did not know it as the CIA did not know that until a day later.

You imply that the White House had something to do with the denial of action of the Delta Force, when all evidence points that this information never got out of the CIA Resident's office.

You claim that there was a drone in the air showing it all directly to Obama in the situation room, when we know that the drone got there 2 hours after the beginning of the attack and Obama was in Illinois (did not know that the situation room was there).

And to round the whole thing up, you present us with a general indicted for corruption (see the corresponding thread on this forum) as King's witness.

Do you think we are all idiots or something?

But as I said in another thread: Very sad that this is all you have to make the case for not reelecting the incumbent, and just reinforces what I have been claiming for quite some time: both parties are broken, time for something new.
What do you propose as something new....the same old Obamanation?

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:20 PM

The whole hoopla about when the Government knew an attack was going on and the response is sorta missing the bigger issue; that of which the embassy should not have been so relatively unprotected at the time regardless. We have marines crawling over embassies in Paris, Tokyo, London... but for the embassy that they know is surrounded by bases for many various factions (several of which have strong ties to enemy groups) we had none, only a few PMC's.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:28 PM

View Postwittyusernamefailed, on 28 October 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

The whole hoopla about when the Government knew an attack was going on and the response is sorta missing the bigger issue; that of which the embassy should not have been so relatively unprotected at the time regardless. We have marines crawling over embassies in Paris, Tokyo, London... but for the embassy that they know is surrounded by bases for many various factions (several of which have strong ties to enemy groups) we had none, only a few PMC's.

Correct, where we have to add a few things:

The Embassy was a provisional emplacement, funds for further security was denied by Congress.

Ambassador Stevens send a request for additional funds to fortify the compound, which never was discussed 'cause the masters of the purse were too busy creating the fiscal cliff.

Ambassador Stevens requested additional security personnel, a request that still was hanging somewhere in the DoD machinery at the time of the attack.

There is no one guilty party here, there are only guilty parties, even those who think they can get an advantage out of finger pointing.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:36 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 28 October 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

Correct, where we have to add a few things:

The Embassy was a provisional emplacement, funds for further security was denied by Congress.

Ambassador Stevens send a request for additional funds to fortify the compound, which never was discussed 'cause the masters of the purse were too busy creating the fiscal cliff.

Ambassador Stevens requested additional security personnel, a request that still was hanging somewhere in the DoD machinery at the time of the attack.

There is no one guilty party here, there are only guilty parties, even those who think they can get an advantage out of finger pointing.
mmm hmmm...the fact remains...the commander in chief, secretary of state, and ambassador to the UN, went on 'tour' touting a youtube video as the reason for the attack.  And, they knew, and you know they knew, that there was absolutely no truth in that scenario..none...and they knew it, and, I repeat, you know that they knew it, I know that they knew it, they know that they knew it, everybody in the whole freaking world now knows that they knew it...and what do we get...spin, spin, spin...why...so we get confused and don't keep our eye on the ball...which is they knew...and yet they lied about the reasons.  End of story...that's what it is all about.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:51 PM

View Postjoc, on 28 October 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

mmm hmmm...the fact remains...the commander in chief, secretary of state, and ambassador to the UN, went on 'tour' touting a youtube video as the reason for the attack.  And, they knew, and you know they knew, that there was absolutely no truth in that scenario..none...and they knew it, and, I repeat, you know that they knew it, I know that they knew it, they know that they knew it, everybody in the whole freaking world now knows that they knew it...and what do we get...spin, spin, spin...why...so we get confused and don't keep our eye on the ball...which is they knew...and yet they lied about the reasons.  End of story...that's what it is all about.

Fact remains a captain is responsible for the ship, not for everybody who breaks a nail 'cause some idiot is not doing his job or the purser does not buy the necessary materials to safeguard the crew from nail breaking. In those cases the captain fires the idiot and/or the purser...just in this case the captain can't.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:20 PM

View PostIs it for real, on 27 October 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

You're an arm chair general too. You apparently know for a fact exactly what can and can't be done. The difference is that I don't know what could've been done but I highly doubt the answer is nothing.

No I'm listening to those in charge. Like Leon Panetta.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:22 PM

View PostIs it for real, on 27 October 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Wrong. He was speaking in generalities about acts of terrorism.

again you fail to answer why the use of the word "act of terror" was important to you.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:20 PM

I almost hope O'barry IS reelected so I can watch the trial.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:57 PM

View Postninjadude, on 28 October 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

again you fail to answer why the use of the word "act of terror" was important to you.

It's more about why the President won't calla spade a spade. Why do you think it's ok to pussyfoot about who the enemy is?

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:42 PM

America's disgust and anger personified:



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Nice midterms democrats.  As Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:46 PM

View PostMerc14, on 28 October 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:



I love the predictable play of the two uber-libs, they drag you into the weeds to argue minutiae so as to avoid the bigger questions and more important facts.  It means they are losing.  Now the AP is trying to concoct a mob story.  Patently ridiculous.  The only good outcome from this tragedy is that Obama and company will be so busy defending themselves during their lame duck that they won't be able to burn the place down as they are ousted.

This is going to get as ugly as ugly can be for the democrats and Obama dropping 7 points in popularity in 3 days (unheard of really) means the garbage being spewed by the MSM and the regime isn't being bought by the people.  Dance ninja and question dance, we are enjoying the embarrassing spectacle. :clap:

Merc, you're right. I meant to add a follow up question to my post which was to ask why, in this entire subject with all these posts is he fixating on, well like you said, minutia? I think we know the answer. Doesn't matter. You're a terror on this matter and you got to keep it up.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:28 AM

View PostMerc14, on 28 October 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

America's disgust and anger personified:


wow :tu:

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:56 AM

I have removed certain posts. Enough with the personal attacks. If members are unable to remain civil and courteous They will find themselves removed from the conversation.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:14 AM

View PostDaughter of the Nine Moons, on 29 October 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

I have removed certain posts. Enough with the personal attacks. If members are unable to remain civil and courteous They will find themselves removed from the conversation.

Are you letting people know their post was removed so they can tell us and we know what you find acceptable?

Nice midterms democrats.  As Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:12 PM

View PostMerc14, on 29 October 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

Are you letting people know their post was removed so they can tell us and we know what you find acceptable?
I think she removed certain posts, including mine, because of name calling and the over all vileness of some of the posts.  This isn't an adult forum.  But, as adults we should be able to conduct ourselves without sinking into the gutter.  What is unacceptable ....and is spelled out in the rules...is that flaming is disallowed. Sometimes in the heat of discussion it happens...but when it happens regularly enough it becomes detrimental to the entire thread and bodes badly for UM in general.  If one's post was removed, one should already know why.  The One and Only Daughter of the Nine Moons is fair and loving and kind...(not to mention beautiful) and has a tolerance for some but not for much...and she is always right...not because she is a MOD but because she just is.  Another way to say that is:  She is not always right because she is a MOD, she is a MOD because she is always right!

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