Do you think you are a Angel?

[BigBTheOneNOnly]

In genesis it talks about how the angels decended down from heaven and mated with the most beautiful women of earth. And that their children grew up to be superheros or something along those lines. So do you still think that that angelic traits are still in our system and could help explain some of these special abilities that people have? Note I know that a lot of people don't believe in the bible but hey this is just a theory being put out.

[marduk]

In genesis it talks about how the angels decended down from heaven and mated with the most beautiful women of earth. And that their children grew up to be superheros or something along those lines. So do you still think that that angelic traits are still in our system and could help explain some of these special abilities that people have? Note I know that a lot of people don't believe in the bible but hey this is just a theory being put out.

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well if you'd actually read the bible it would help your theory be taken seriously

until then

you're on your own

[Falco Rex]

I don't think so. This is an origin myth; and they're always strange and unbelievable..So naturally people spent years believing in them..

For real weirness explaining where humanity came from, read the Greek or Chinese Myths..You'll wonder why people even made up stories this out there..

And if personal history has shown me anything, it's that if there ever were angel in me; it's been thoroughly bred out.

[marduk]

I don't think so. This is an origin myth; and they're always strange and unbelievable..So naturally people spent years believing in them..

For real weirness explaining where humanity came from, read the Greek or Chinese Myths..You'll wonder why people even made up stories this out there..

And if personal history has shown me anything, it's that if there ever were angel in me; it's been thoroughly bred out.

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Lol well i won't speak for myself but seeing as my sign in name is the basis for the christian satan i would imagine thats about 100% angel

bad ass angel admittedly ?

does that still count

[AncientMyste]

I definitely do not have any angelic (Nephilim) traits. In the bible it says that the only pure 'humans' that survived the flood was Noah and his family. All the Nephilim were destroyed. I don't know what to believe... I guess I'll find out when I leave this plane of existence!!!

One question. Are you serious about this subject or are you just messing around on a message board? Just curious.

[BigBTheOneNOnly]

I definitely do not have any angelic (Nephilim) traits. In the bible it says that the  only pure 'humans' that survived the flood was Noah and his family. All the Nephilim were destroyed. I don't know what to believe... I guess I'll find out when I leave this plane of existence!!!

One question. Are you serious about this subject or are you just messing around on a message board? Just curious.

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I am half serious I don't know what to think, I guess I use to think that the bible had some outstreched quotes, but a lot of things that people use to think were lies turned out to be true. I.E. The whole quote about water coming out from the sky was thought to be rain, but now there is substantial evidence that water actually use to exist in the sky. And many different historical nations talk about Noah existing, so who knows maybe that quote in the bible was meant to be taken seriously. I mean in the bible it says these people that the angels went down and spawned with human people turned out to be giants. And there are many tribes that talk about Giants roaming the earth. So why couldn't this be true?

[earthchick]

Hmmmm....I grew up as a preacher's daughter.....ate, slept and breathed the Bible while I was growing up, but this is a new one on me!

My answer would be...

Edited May 7, 2005 by earthchick

[marduk]

I definitely do not have any angelic (Nephilim) traits. In the bible it says that the  only pure 'humans' that survived the flood was Noah and his family. All the Nephilim were destroyed. I don't know what to believe... I guess I'll find out when I leave this plane of existence!!!

One question. Are you serious about this subject or are you just messing around on a message board? Just curious.

609063[/snapback]

I am half serious I don't know what to think, I guess I use to think that the bible had some outstreched quotes, but a lot of things that people use to think were lies turned out to be true. I.E. The whole quote about water coming out from the sky was thought to be rain, but now there is substantial evidence that water actually use to exist in the sky. And many different historical nations talk about Noah existing, so who knows maybe that quote in the bible was meant to be taken seriously. I mean in the bible it says these people that the angels went down and spawned with human people turned out to be giants. And there are many tribes that talk about Giants roaming the earth. So why couldn't this be true?

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Because its a quote from the bible

the first part borrowed heavily from other cultures and the second part was put together in the 4th century ad onwards.

You apparently think that the myth about water being in the sky is true

it isn't. it was a load of bull dreamt up to prove creationists wacky theories

No different historical nations talk about Noah existing. Thats just christians

where in the bible does it say that giants are the offspring of angels and humans, could you point out chapter and verse for me.

It isn't true unless you're a devout christian and even then its a bit of a stretch.

Luckily most people don't take the bible seriously. Or we'd all be in trouble.

[Amalgamut]

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went into the daughters of men and had children with them, they were the heroes of old, men of reknown" (Genesis 6:4)

This is the main reason why God destroyed in the first place, most of the earth was infested with this evil, hybrid race.

The "Nephilim" are not human.

It does say that after the flood, Nephilim appeared again, in numbers (13:33)

You would think this is somewhat contradictory, due to the scripture...

"Every living thing that moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind." (Genesis 7:21)

However, notice the word "on the earth."

Obviously, we see that the angels that originally fell (that produced Nephilim) came back down after the flood to make more hybrid beings. This is why I personally think that these "angels" and "Nephilim" are aliens, due to many stories you hear about people being forced to perform sexual acts.

You also hear of stories that consist of people seeing "hybrid" humans. These things the people speak of could very well be "Nephilim."

[marduk]

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went into the daughters of men and had children with them, they were the heroes of old, men of reknown" (Genesis 6:4)

This is the main reason why God destroyed in the first place, most of the earth was infested with this evil, hybrid race.

The "Nephilim" are not human.

It does say that after the flood, Nephilim appeared again, in numbers (13:33)

You would think this is somewhat contradictory, due to the scripture...

"Every living thing that moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind." (Genesis 7:21)

However, notice the word "on the earth."

Obviously, we see that the angels that originally fell (that produced Nephilim) came back down after the flood to make more hybrid beings. This is why I personally think that these "angels" and "Nephilim" are aliens, due to many stories you hear about people being forced to perform sexual acts.

You also hear of stories that consist of people seeing "hybrid" humans. These things the people speak of could very well be "Nephilim."

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yeah sure

and the moon is made of green cheese and santa claus and the tooth fairy are real people.

If you actually go read genesis personallyyou'll find it isn't like that at all

heres the entire section for you to read:-

Genesis 6

The flood

When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with [a] man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them."8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

9 This is the account of Noah.

Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked with God. 10 Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham and Japheth.

11 Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. 13 So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth

So god sent the flood to kill the halfbreeds did he

which bible are you reading ?

the one supplied by your friends at m.u.f.o.n. ?

The fact that you think something written in the christian bible is factual is bad enough

The fact that you don't seem to have read it but consider yourself an expert is worse

[Amalgamut]

So god sent the flood to kill the halfbreeds did he

609457[/snapback]

This was one reason, yes.

which bible are you reading ?

609457[/snapback]

The NIV. Have you ever heard of it?

the one supplied by your friends at m.u.f.o.n. ?

609457[/snapback]

No

The fact that you think something written in the christian bible is factual is bad enough

609457[/snapback]

Awww.....I'm sorry you feel this way.

The fact that you are bashing me because I read it is childish.

The fact that you don't seem to have read it but consider yourself an expert is worse

     

609457[/snapback]

I have read it, and I never considered myself an expert. If I did, by all means, quote me on it.

This was merely my opinion.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

And if you would take the time and read what you just gave me, then you would understand more. But judging by your use of words, you probably lack the skills of reading comprehension.

[marduk]

So god sent the flood to kill the halfbreeds did he

609457[/snapback]

This was one reason, yes.

which bible are you reading ?

609457[/snapback]

The NIV. Have you ever heard of it?

the one supplied by your friends at m.u.f.o.n. ?

609457[/snapback]

No

The fact that you think something written in the christian bible is factual is bad enough

609457[/snapback]

Awww.....I'm sorry you feel this way.

The fact that you are bashing me because I read it is childish.

The fact that you don't seem to have read it but consider yourself an expert is worse

     

609457[/snapback]

I have read it, and I never considered myself an expert. If I did, by all means, quote me on it.

This was merely my opinion.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

And if you would take the time and read what you just gave me, then you would understand more. But judging by your use of words, you probably lack the skills of reading comprehension.

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nice retort, pity everyone else can read english where you claim that the reason for the flood was to kill off the human angel halfbreeds.

Thats not what it says in the NIV bible

It doesn't

Learn to read

Reading Comprehension os not something I have trouble with

everyone can see that's your problem.

the fact that you think i have that problem is just a bit of good old fashioned abnormal psycology transference

keep taking the pills

[Brittany_NC]

maybe there could be very small chance i think

[marduk]

maybe there could be very small chance i think

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small to none

if that

[Essan]

-when the sons of God went into the daughters of men and had children with them

Well there you go - proof that Jesus Christ (who as we all know was the Son of God) had kids!

[Hans Dolbrook]

i'm certainly no angel,but i'm certain i have at least two guardian angels though!

[BigBTheOneNOnly]

I definitely do not have any angelic (Nephilim) traits. In the bible it says that the  only pure 'humans' that survived the flood was Noah and his family. All the Nephilim were destroyed. I don't know what to believe... I guess I'll find out when I leave this plane of existence!!!

One question. Are you serious about this subject or are you just messing around on a message board? Just curious.

609063[/snapback]

I am half serious I don't know what to think, I guess I use to think that the bible had some outstreched quotes, but a lot of things that people use to think were lies turned out to be true. I.E. The whole quote about water coming out from the sky was thought to be rain, but now there is substantial evidence that water actually use to exist in the sky. And many different historical nations talk about Noah existing, so who knows maybe that quote in the bible was meant to be taken seriously. I mean in the bible it says these people that the angels went down and spawned with human people turned out to be giants. And there are many tribes that talk about Giants roaming the earth. So why couldn't this be true?

609077[/snapback]

Because its a quote from the bible

the first part borrowed heavily from other cultures and the second part was put together in the 4th century ad onwards.

You apparently think that the myth about water being in the sky is true

it isn't. it was a load of bull dreamt up to prove creationists wacky theories

No different historical nations talk about Noah existing. Thats just christians

where in the bible does it say that giants are the offspring of angels and humans, could you point out chapter and verse for me.

It isn't true unless you're a devout christian and even then its a bit of a stretch.

Luckily most people don't take the bible seriously. Or we'd all be in trouble.

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Um actually there are cultures that talk about A great flood that came over the earth and I believe there are even a few cultures that talk about a giant boat riding on top of the flood, and even a few talk about how only one family were able to survive the flood.

[KevinM]

The NIV. Have you ever heard of it?

NIV isn't a bible its glorified scratch paper. I'm sorry the NIV is one of the least accurate translations ever made of scripture. It edits out parts the authors didn't care for and dramaticly changes many others.

[KevinM]

Ok couple things first the Flood story is largely universal. IT wasn't borrowed from the Babylonians its probably a refference to a real event. Based on what? The fact tribes every where from New Zealand to North America have myths of the world being destroyed by water because of the wickedness of man. Most also say only a single family or very small group survived it by divine providence.

As to the Nephillim given I"m only 5'10, a peaceful person, and not a cannabal I'm quite certain I'm not one. Half breeds were considered giants prone to eating human flesh and extremely violent(many scholars for example believe that Goliath was supposed to have been a Nephillim). While the original blood lines were entirely destroyed in the flood refferences exist well into the middle ages of demons and devils interbreeding with mortals. Merlin for example was believed to be the son of a witch and an incubus(several medevil demonology texts even go on at length about how a spirit could bring about such a union). I'd also observe that Judaism is not the only culture to have stories of half breeds. Many of the ancient religions tell tales of the gods breeding with man kind and creating super human children(Hercules any one).

[Vox]

I think that in the Babylonian texts it's called the 'Saga of Gilgamesh'. Didn't know about any texts from New Zealand. If you know of any link that you'd recommend I'd greatly appreciate it!

[KevinM]

I think that in the Babylonian texts it's called the 'Saga of Gilgamesh'. Didn't know about any texts from New Zealand. If you know of any link that you'd recommend I'd greatly appreciate it! 

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Your actually quite right about the Babylonian. It comes from the Epic(saga) of Gilgamesh which in point of fact is believed to be the oldest written tale in existence. As to a link I wish I could unfort I don't always have the most perfect memory for where I read things. There are lists at any rate of places the flood story pops up and it is almost universal(at least one of the Native American tribes(navaho I think but don't quote me on that) even go so far as to say that the earth has been destroyed once by water and will be destroyed again by flame mirroring biblical prophecies that say much the same).

[Amalgamut]

The NIV. Have you ever heard of it?

NIV isn't a bible its glorified scratch paper. I'm sorry the NIV is one of the least accurate translations ever made of scripture. It edits out parts the authors didn't care for and dramaticly changes many others.

610097[/snapback]

Hmmm....Yeah, and thats why the NIV includes many words used in the original Hebrew manuscripts.

[Amalgamut]

nice retort, pity everyone else can read english where you claim that the reason for the flood was to kill off the human angel halfbreeds.

Thats not what it says in the NIV bible

It doesn't

Learn to read

Reading Comprehension os not something I have trouble with

everyone can see that's your problem.

the fact that you think i have that problem is just a bit of good old fashioned abnormal psycology transference

keep taking the pills

 

609745[/snapback]

Learn to spell.

You can't even write correctly, and you tell others they need help.

[KevinM]

The NIV. Have you ever heard of it?

NIV isn't a bible its glorified scratch paper. I'm sorry the NIV is one of the least accurate translations ever made of scripture. It edits out parts the authors didn't care for and dramaticly changes many others.

610097[/snapback]

Hmmm....Yeah, and thats why the NIV includes many words used in the original Hebrew manuscripts.

610353[/snapback]

And deletes many more and completely changes still more.

[Amalgamut]

And deletes many more and completely changes still more.

610364[/snapback]

You can take the KJV and the NIV version, and the only difference is some of the words used. Yet the words basically mean the same thing. The wording is slightly different in some parts, yet it means the same thing.