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First, to start with: I am a person who has had many paranormal experiences, none of them particularly negative, malevolent or "bad".

Second, I would appreciate only real input on this topic from people with similar experiences. Please, don't reply to this saying "ouija isn't real" because that is just unhelpful and irrelevant.

Okay so, I have had my ouija board for several years. Every time I have used it with my mom, aunt, sister and cousin we have gotten extremely successful results (we are all pretty receptive to paranormal activity- having seen full body apparitions etc ). We have conversed with passed loved ones with amazing results. We follow the rules of ouija pretty strictly and are sure to never use suggestion. We have done it with such success that the planchett has gone off the table and you can feel energy coursing through your arms. Anyway, every time we use it, we write down everything it spells out. I keep the papers in my ouija board box, I never throw them away. Recently, my mom and I decided to do a session. We were having trouble speaking to the normal type of spirits because something seemed to be domineering the board and commanding it.

It kept reading AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZ and repeatedly going around and around in circles. Whenever we asked who was on the board, it kept spelling ZAMA. We didn't think anything of this, but I happened to record this session and showed it to my two friends. The next day they asked if we three could do a session together. Again, the board simply kept spelling ZAMA ZAMA ZAMA. One of my friends decided to google what that meant, we figured it could mean something in a language other than English. We were a bit surprised to find out that according to google- ZAMA is a demonic spirit that tries to trick people on the ouija board and lure them into letting it out, or some other such thing. Something was strange about this. I felt like this was familiar. I decided to take out my old papers and to my horror my records going as far back as 2010 say ZAMA at least a few times on the paper on which I transcribed our ouija sessions. I was really creeped out that apparently this ZAMA had been contacting my family and myself for years over the board and we didn't even realize or make the connection.

What I would like to know is: has anyone else ever spoken to this ZAMA on the ouija board? I was pretty creeped out and the ouija board has been in the trunk of my car ever since b/c I felt I was being tricked this whole time and now the board is unsafe to be in the house. Literally every time we have used it ZAMA has tried to talk to us with a very dominating presence.

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I wish I could help you but other than saying, I've heard ouija boards are really dangerous, I don't know what to tell you, I'm sorry. I think you did the right thing, putting it in the trunk of your car though. I think they came out with a movie called "Ouija" about the board. Afaik, it's a horror type film. How appropriate.

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first of all when some one dies, there dead you can not speak to the soul(so called loved ones) that is a myth and fake, people make movies and paranormal crap where they say oh its haunted by the so and so, NOOOOO

there dead the soul is out of this world three main religions also say this.

Ghost of humans is all bull its spirits in Human form

there's three things in this world

Human, Spirits and Angels

Angels are there for what God tells them to do and are Pure good

Humans well your a Human you know what Humans are cable off

and then we have spirits

there's two types Good and Evil

the Good are a minority and tend to keep a big distance from the human world and interventions

but just like us humans eat, sleep, procreate etc...

and then there's the Evil ones

some are just born into Evil families and think what the doing is normal, harassing, possessing, killing and Satan is the lord etc...

i can tell you more if you ask to know

basically they are another being that the human eye can not see unless they are in a smokey cloudy form or they manifest into a solid being i.e. human

you obviously had spoken to a Spirit whom most likely is a demon and you should stop doing what you do or he/she will possess one of you

be it your mom or aunt cousin etc...

however, considering how you already been speaking to this spirit be ready for a roller coaster cause **** just got real

your will have stuff happening to you and your family and home

it will start of slow but gradually get worse and worse

aches and pains on the body

seeing shadows here and there

things missing or in wrong place

sudden anger burst at friends and family

horrible smells etc...

Demons lie constantly so what ever you got from the oujia board is stuff you guys already know and it read your minds

plus it will always tell you one truth followed by 99 lies

GOOD LUCK

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Second, I would appreciate only real input on this topic from people with similar experiences.

Absolutely - no-one else could possibly have something worthwhile to say. Indeed I have already left and will not return.

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There are only two Zama's that I am familiar with or have ever heard about...

1. Zama - a site in North Africa, where the Roman's under Scipio Africanus met and defeated the Carthaginian's under Hannibal Barca, ending the second Punic War...

2. A small town in Japan, south west of Tokyo, site of the US Army Camp Zama...

That's it...

The Ouija board is a TOY.. .made by a toy manufacturer... It has no more ability to contact "spirits" than a random rock does...

If you truly want to see if 'spirits' are moving the planchet, take your fingers off of it and let them move it... Nothing happens...

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Maybe your Ouija entity is just thirsty. :P

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Get rid of the old ouija stuff as it's tainted. The entity is linked and will keep coming back if you regurgitate the same board and same paper.

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I love how half the people on this thread did the exact opposite of what i asked them not to do, which is respond saying ouija isn't real. thanks a lot trolls for your useless comments. just because you think something is stupid or not real, doesn't mean you are correct. i have physically seen apparitions and have experienced ghosts almost all of my life so you saying spirits etc. aren't real is just annoying.

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The Ouija board is a TOY.. .made by a toy manufacturer... It has no more ability to contact "spirits" than a random rock does...

If you truly want to see if 'spirits' are moving the planchet, take your fingers off of it and let them move it... Nothing happens...

ouija boards have actually been around for THOUSANDS of years before milton bradley decided to manufacture them. they used to be made out of wood. you can even make your own board if you want to. so obviously you know nothing and are just spouting off BS. but thanks for trolling this thread.

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Absolutely - no-one else could possibly have something worthwhile to say. Indeed I have already left and will not return.

i'm not sure why you even bothered posting???????????

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An historical correction: although oracles and methods of diving and possibly contacting the dead have been around for thousands of years, Ouija boards have not. They are the final form of what was originally called a psychograph, which evolved into the planchette, which was a wooden platform with a pencil in the center. The psychograph was patented in 1854. Information on this can be found here and further in my UM Ouija column article here. The assertions that ancient Greeks or whatever used oracular devices similar to Ouija boards are entirely without historical evidence and completely fabricated.

On the other hand, Ouija boards are "real" and you can get results from them that are quite interesting and often nothing any single individual using them would ordinarily come up with. I've been party to sessions where the board personalities had some really lively and obscure senses of humor, and came up with words or phrases or pretty unique ideas. I think they're wonderful as experiments and entertainment (for MOST people) if the users keep perspective.

Your ZAMA is a very common Ouija Board occurrence that I call "anchoring" and is also responsible for the more famous "ZOZO", which is supposed to be a "very well documented ancient demon present in many cultures" (it isn't; that too is entirely fabricated and there are no mentions of ZOZO in ANY books of any kind before the 1990s or probably 2000s, I've researched this myself). Anchoring would occur a good 30% of the time we used the ouija board, where it would "stick" to 2 or 3 letters and just repeat them over and over. We got DADADA, MLKMLK (oddly, on MLK day) and other such results. I don't claim to know the exact reason for this, but I can assure you from MY experience, it isn't at all uncommon and is very unlikely to have any significance. It doesn't mean it isn't interesting or fun to do research, and I've looked up many things the board "revealed" to us, including a mystical text that was in a cave that could only be read while in the astral plane - some interesting ideas, for sure!

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looks like there was a famous "Battle of Zama",

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I wouldn't recommend fooling around with Ouija... You could open a portal for lower level entities (i.e; demons) to enter your home and your life.. Basically darkness and nothing but negative energy. ZAMA is a DEMON. Look up "ZOZO", Another Ouija Demon. Get rid of the board and smudge the house with cedar or sage smoke.

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Come ON. A whole TWO posts up, I addressed this. There is NO information on ZOZO prior to this internet creepypasta nonsense. This is utter fiction.

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Come ON. A whole TWO posts up, I addressed this. There is NO information on ZOZO prior to this internet creepypasta nonsense. This is utter fiction.

They just don't read, man. Silly goose's. Great post btw!

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i have physically seen apparitions and have experienced ghosts almost all of my life

Seeing entities may be all on you and have nothiing to do with the board

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I actually have this problem just about every time I play the ouija, when i ask for the name it give me zazazaza..ect or zozozozo...ect and other z names just repetitively which it gets really boring to play, also when i ask other question it makes no sense at all....

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I actually have this problem just about every time I play the ouija, when i ask for the name it give me zazazaza..ect or zozozozo...ect and other z names just repetitively which it gets really boring to play, also when i ask other question it makes no sense at all....

Hmmm. Mine just usually goes, 'zzzzzzzzzz...'

Welcome to the forums Sozoobo. :) Did your Ouija give your user name as well?

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Hi,

I read your posting and a lot of the negative responses as well. I'm not claiming to know everything but from personal experience I know what you are doing is dangerous. Ive dealt with this in the past and can tell you it was a horrible time for me. You are dealing with demons that will lie to you and manipulate everything. It is so bad to mess with the board. You may not sense things at first but little happenings will start and at first seem to your benefit, but later you will know it's not. I've seen things that would make anybody run for their lives. I don't even really like to bring it up or think about it. These beings are very smart and know your weaknesses. They can actually read your thoughts and just the simple act of meditation is enough to bring them about now. Don't use that board, it will lead to nothing but negativity. Throw it away. If you have any questions feel free to email me. Take Care.

James

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This seems like a good time to point out that the OP hasn't been active on this site since Oct 24 2014. Any replies or offers of help posted in this thread might not even be read.

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I wish people with questions (or uncertain answers) would just take the time to do research. There's a multitude of search engines, if Google or Bing aren't your cup of tea. But let me demonstrate what a couple of simple searches and less than 30 minutes netted me for Zama...

Among the references Wikipedia mentions [HERE] are:

  • Zama (Tunisia), the name of some towns in the Roman province of Africa Proconsularis (now northern Tunisia)
  • Zama, Kanagawa, a city of Kanagawa prefecture, Japan
  • Zama, Mississippi, an unincorporated community in the United States
  • Zama City, a hamlet in Alberta, Canada
  • Camp Zama, a United States Army base in Kanagawa prefecture, Japan
  • Other name of Tulum, a Maya site in Mexico
  • Zama Lake is a large lake in northern Alberta, Canada
  • Zama (film), a Spanish/Argentinian film (non angel/god related)
  • The Battle of Zama, fought around October 19, 202 BC, marked the end of the Second Punic War.

The site Heavenly Bridegrooms has this single mention:

The Mayas of Yucatan had a virgin-born god, named Zama.

I looked specifically for "Angel" and "Zama".

Zama in an 1814 literature book

St. Zama - first recorded bishop of Bologna

Zama Codex excerpt from Catholic.Org, about Mayan rituals

Zamaregion in Japan, includes the Angel Heights location (interesting coincidence)

Miss Supranational Elana Zama (from Romania) in Angelopedia (what even is this, I don't even...)

Lastly, this interesting excerpt from 'Inside an Autistic World: Spiritual Experience of People with Autism':

The paragraph describes zama as "little other beings", somewhat similar but different than sylphs, that can transform water and air into matter that grows upward. (btw this sounds like it would be a FASCINATING book to read!)

And this book, the Religions and Religious Ceremonies of All Nations At The Present Day (1824), that mentions "the daughter of Zama", as a name of a woman in the section on "the Mahometans" (Muslims). This book ALSO sounds very interesting!

So, while potentially the Mayan river god or the autistic book or on an outside chance, Zama possibly being a less known Japanese entity of some kind, there's no "well-known" or established or commonly referenced historical basis for any of the nonsense in our century about Zama being a demon or a fallen angel or anything. There are exactly NO examples of "Zama" or anything like it, being listed in any reference to actual angels. MYTH BUSTED.

(And regarding Still Waters' post, I agree but would like to take posts like this as opportunities to make some points about posts and responses and research in general)

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I know I have heard of many occurances with ZoZo but never have I once heard anyone come across Zama. BUT regardless Ouijia boards regardless of how expeirenced you think you are or how expeirenced you assume someone else is, should not be messed around with. Sadly believe it or not a dead family member rarely EVER will come through on a ouija board and chances are if you were told it was a family member it was a lie. Teh only way that is possible is if the family member is haunting the home etc. People who die and cross over dont come through on ouijia boards because thats a slight against the universal law of turbulance or something like that anyways. I have been studying and doing ghost hunts with people since i was thirteen, when i was twelve i started studying the art of wicca. I studied wicca for seven years to make sure i fully understood what it was about, then i moved on to the more mystical paranormal side of it and studied that for another four years before I even decided to touch a ouija board I wanted to make sure I knew EXACTLY what i was doing and who and what i was dealing with. My suggestion close it, cleanse it study it, be wary be smart.

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Paranormalcy stated the following:

Your ZAMA is a very common Ouija Board occurrence that I call "anchoring" and is also responsible for the more famous "ZOZO", which is supposed to be a "very well documented ancient demon present in many cultures" (it isn't; that too is entirely fabricated and there are no mentions of ZOZO in ANY books of any kind before the 1990s or probably 2000s, I've researched this myself).

Perhaps he is the one that should brush up on his skills as a researcher? Zozo is mentioned in plenty of books before the 1990's. Zozo is listed as a demon who along with two other spirits, severely possessed a young girl in 1816. This account is described in the French Dictionnaire Infernal written by Colin D'Plancy. Zozo is also described in a Catholic newsletter in Latin written in 1876 as The Mass of Zozo.....Commune Omnius Daemonum. Translated as "Common to all Demons.

There are many more references to Zozo in unrelated literary sources connecting the word to demonic origins. I can list many more references, but would prefer to publish them in a future book on the Zozo Phenomenon.

Zama is reported in other people's Ouija encounters,along with Zoma ...... and is obviously a name contrived by the entities that often use the Zozo / Mama Ouija handles. The "Supernatural" Ouija board manufactured by Usaopoly actually omits the letter Z from their popular Ouija board. What other reason than to attempt to cut down on visits from old Mr. Z?

Regardless of whether or not spirits are involved in Ouija phenomena, thousands of people have had unusual experiences and exchanges with Zozo and other Z-Entities. The letter Z has a fascinating history and was eliminated from several languages for various reasons including because the mere pronunciation of it resembled "The rictus of death." Called The Whoreson Zed, the letter of the Zig Zag, a prophetic letter etc.

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