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#16    ThickasaBrick

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

Go out to a restaurant and find you only have a choice between a bland steak and dry chicken; would you go back to that restaurant? America needs more than a choice between Dem and Rep. All parties should have equal footing, equal financing, and get equal exposure. This will not happen due to the predominant parties who fear the independent candidates.

Regardless of what is said now, America has 4 more years of Obama. I hope that he will actually do well, but as the saying goes, hope in one hand, defecate in the other, see which fills up first.


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

View PostJackofalltrades, on 08 November 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

In my opinion, it might benefit the US if there was another party elected and not just the democrat's or republican's party's that normally get elected...
They have both had more than their fair share of running the country, and where has it got the US ?

It would be benficial for the US to actually give the people a choice, rather than making them choose from the lesser of two evil's (Lib's/Dem's) which judging by what I seen in this election there is not much difference to each other

In my opinion, the playing field should be levelled out and make all candidates spend a maximum amount of money, and not spend million's/billion's to run for president (which I think is disgusting, as the money could be put to better use like housing the homeless etc), doing that would give the third party candidate's a chance at winning (some seem like they may do a better Job than any Lib/Dem has done to date) it would give the American people more choice to who they want as President, and who they think would actually do a better job

IF I voted (I dont vote) IF I could vote in the US, then I would vote for ANY other third party that seem they would do the job better, and not the Lib / Dem party's

Matthews seem's like a **** in my opinion (judging by what he said about people voting for third party's)

Yeah the maximum payment is a great idea. As you can see the massive amounts they have spent (the two richest parties), it gives them the most exposure, advertisement and air time. A massive advantage over the rest.


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostOrcseeker, on 08 November 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Yeah the maximum payment is a great idea. As you can see the massive amounts they have spent (the two richest parties), it gives them the most exposure, advertisement and air time. A massive advantage over the rest.
It really hurts me to say this but...I agree with Chris Matthews...OUCH....(just put a bandaid on it...and stop the bleeeeding now)
Voting Third Party is stupid.  A third party is not going to ever win...and even if they did...then what?  Then they have to work with democrats and republicans because...THERE ARE NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES WHO HAVE ANY POWER WHATSOEVER IN CONGRESS...I apologize for shouting at the top of my lungs...
...and besides that...it always...ALWAYS...splits the vote of the other two parties...so effectively what you have is a third party candidate that has no chance of winning influencing the election of the two who do have a chance.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:01 PM

That's why I love our country. 'You have the power! Vote! Except don't vote for anyone you actually agree with if they're third party! It's stupid! They'll never win! Now get back in line and vote for one of the real parties!' *troll face* -Most main party supporters

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

View Postjoc, on 08 November 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

It really hurts me to say this but...I agree with Chris Matthews...OUCH....(just put a bandaid on it...and stop the bleeeeding now)
Voting Third Party is stupid.  A third party is not going to ever win...and even if they did...then what?  Then they have to work with democrats and republicans because...THERE ARE NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES WHO HAVE ANY POWER WHATSOEVER IN CONGRESS...I apologize for shouting at the top of my lungs...
...and besides that...it always...ALWAYS...splits the vote of the other two parties...so effectively what you have is a third party candidate that has no chance of winning influencing the election of the two who do have a chance.

I think you are nuts.   Everyone should vote for the person they would most like to see get into the office.   I voted for Ross Perot.   He received 19% of the popular vote.   Not bad for a 3rd party.
As far as splitting another parties votes, if a canidate loses votes to another canidate, then he/she didn't really have that vote locked up.


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:58 PM

View Postjoc, on 08 November 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:


It really hurts me to say this but...I agree with Chris Matthews...OUCH....(just put a bandaid on it...and stop the bleeeeding now)
Voting Third Party is stupid.  A third party is not going to ever win...and even if they did...then what?  Then they have to work with democrats and republicans because...THERE ARE NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES WHO HAVE ANY POWER WHATSOEVER IN CONGRESS...I apologize for shouting at the top of my lungs...
...and besides that...it always...ALWAYS...splits the vote of the other two parties...so effectively what you have is a third party candidate that has no chance of winning influencing the election of the two who do have a chance.

But should the government be structured as such? Is it right for the media to imply there are simply only two parties and that it will always be so? All this talk of change in the elections but nothing will change one bit.

If you make things fair, it at least givens everyone an even ground instead of those who just have the most money. Other parties should be given a chance to be elected into congress too.

Do you think it is right for two parties to have a monopoly on the politics?


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:51 AM

300 million Americans and 2 views to pick from. Heck no. There should be an amendment that for every 100 Million in population there should be another party mandated to participate. I mean legitimately participate. Ron Paul could of easily disrupted the establishment if he chose to initiate a third party after the primaries. He had tons of support and enough exposure. At least enough that people knew who he was. He could've made Obama lose. Doubtful but why not? Also, I think he could've gotten the magical 5%. He is definitely not the typical republican or even politician for that matter.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:53 AM

View PostOrcseeker, on 08 November 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

But should the government be structured as such? Is it right for the media to imply there are simply only two parties and that it will always be so? All this talk of change in the elections but nothing will change one bit.

If you make things fair, it at least givens everyone an even ground instead of those who just have the most money. Other parties should be given a chance to be elected into congress too.

Do you think it is right for two parties to have a monopoly on the politics?
After this election...I think it very obvious that we do not have a two party system...there is only one party...wow...is that something or what?  I mean look at the effing Governor of NJ...did NJ vote for Romney...no...Did the big Fat Repub get a thrill up his leg for Obama?  yep  And Romney...Homney Romney...what a pathetic joke!  Viscious...absolutely VISCIOUS during the primaries...oh, so Ward Freaking Clever against Obama...and Boehner?  Everyone has got an opinon right...Boehner is just a big woosie OPINION!  I hate the freaking Republicans...I do...more than I loathe the Dems...I absolutely HATE the Republicans...At least with the Dems...they are what they are and you can kind of count on that...liars, thieves, hypocrits (not you guys, the Government Agent Democrats)but the Republicans...worse than that...because they are oh so nicey nice...Well guess what folks?  They are all the same ...Vipers everyone of 'em...we have been duped...duped by One Party Rule for years...Bush?  Loser!  Clinton?  Loser!  Bush's Daddy? Loser! Obama?  Loser!  If it weren't for all the innocent lives in Washington, I would wish DC would get nuked...then we could start all over with genuine real people...
Like alot of you...If I were President...I would make Orcseeker VP...I would make HuttonEtAl Secretary of State...I would put Mr. Fess in charge of the Budget and I would make Hasina Secretary of Bringing us All Coffee cause she is just so damn cute....
We are screwed ya'll...seriously screwed...it'll take years for it all to wash out...and Romney...we'd be just as screwed, who knows, maybe more...
It is what it is and that's all it is...okay, done venting...

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:10 AM

View Postlightly, on 08 November 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

There was a time when our two current major parties didn't exist....  they came into existence by "idiots"  voting for an alternate party.

The two current ones. But there there have nearly always been two strong parties. It is in the nature of winner take all.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:14 AM

Can I be Secretary of Defense, joc?!?!? :sk :gun:


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:14 AM

I'm up for the task. I'll take my coffee straight and black please. Oops, my first politically incorrect gaffe as Budget Secretary. I'll have a statement in the morning...

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:21 AM

View PostMichelle, on 09 November 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

Can I be Secretary of Defense, joc?!?!? :sk :gun:
You got it SweetHeart!  Get with Fess...we need more Daisy Cutters...I'm fixing to grow myself a garden!

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:24 AM

View PostMyles, on 08 November 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

I think you are nuts.   Everyone should vote for the person they would most like to see get into the office.   I voted for Ross Perot.   He received 19% of the popular vote.   Not bad for a 3rd party.
As far as splitting another parties votes, if a canidate loses votes to another canidate, then he/she didn't really have that vote locked up.
Yeah...and that's why we got Clinton...thanks alot!  Not only do you not have a spot in my administration...wait...do you know anything about gardening...no...never mind...you are not even allowed on the grounds!

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:25 AM

View Postninjadude, on 09 November 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

The two current ones. But there there have nearly always been two strong parties. It is in the nature of winner take all.
And I appoint Ninjadude as my Press Secretary...doesn't matter what anyone says he can spin the hell out of it!

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:29 AM

View Postjoc, on 09 November 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:


Yeah...and that's why we got Clinton...thanks alot!  Not only do you not have a spot in my administration...wait...do you know anything about gardening...no...never mind...you are not even allowed on the grounds!
I don't know man. I think I see the birth of a third party right here and you initiated it. Time to rise up. And we got funds for Michelle. We have to have muscle.

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