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[JGirl]

Stardrive, on 31 December 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Ok, I'll say "I'm slow witted in the woods and it seems everyone else I've been out there with is just as slow witted as I am, if not more so."

But all my arguing friends here are the best and very quick witted in the woods. Nothing gets by them. Is that better?

Give me time and I'll learn how to navigate the waters here.

*hands stardrive a cupcake

[Night Walker]

Bigfoot-related threads on UM in 2012:

Russian Bigfoot/Yeti – promotion to raise money for orphans
New Bigfoot Footage: Marble Mountain – likely hoax
Searching for bigfoot among the redwoods – about Bigfooters
Local Residents Spot Bigfoot In West Virginia - orangepeaceful79 becomes a skeptic after 12 posts
Seeking the British Bigfoot – still seeking
The Erickson Project – Bigfoot documentary perpetually in the pipeline
How Gigantopithecus Became Extinct
(Not) Finding Bigfoot Season 2 – self-explanatory
Video from BFRO – a “Class BS” sighting
Really? Bigfoot?
Bigfoot Reasercher Gone Missing – Bigfoot hoaxer-researcher Todd Standing
Bigfoot watching kids? – Blobsquatch
What is Bigfoot?
Bigfoot / Predator control hunting
Bigfoot eat their dead...
I just love these guys.... – BFRO antics
Dung – we ain’t found ****
What do the Hairy Guys eat?
Hairy Giants: Goliath-Sized Monsters
Post your Bigfoot HAIKU
New Bigfoot documentary to prove it exists. – No. Just “Finding Bigfoot”
40,000-yr-old footprint 5ft Spider Monkey USA
brainstorm with me, UM friends – How to find a dead Sasquatch
Porcupines? - Eating Bigfoot bones
Mogollon Monster - Arizona's Bigfoot?
Was it a Big Foot or a Skinwalker?
Brocken spectre - bigfoot? Yeti?
Brand spankin new! – believer lasts 10 posts
Cowboys and Sasquatch
Sasquatch aka Bigfoot Evidence
New Trail Cam Pic – hoax
Do You Think That The Yowie Really Exists?
The Problems with Bigfoot - and why his existence is dubious
Top 50 Sasquatch Verified Videos of all time?
Sumatran Orang Pendek Hairs Match Rock Hyrax
Born to be Wild: The People of the Woods
"Finding Bigfoot"
Bigfoot insights?
List of things BFRO says attract squatch
Yeren
market value of BF footage is $100 per sec. – Who says hoaxing doesn’t pay?
Bigfoot shot by hunters – yet still no bodies
Mapping Big Foot sightings to Vegetation
Four Legged Turns Into 8ft Hairy Man-like
Gorilla or Bigfoot? - Gorilla Reported At Large in Alabama: Nothing found
Rhode Island Big Hairy Man-like Encounter – not even BFRO took it seriously
NPR story on Bigfoot phenomenon
Bigfoot Body, Nessie,or crashed UFO? - What will you do or think if or when this is proven?
Rebuilding the Bigfoot Theory
List of things that BFRO says Bigfoots avoid
Upside down trees - Planted by bigfoot to define territory
On the trail with Bigfoot-hunters
Park Service Requiring Permits to Hunt Bigfoot
" Tree Knocking " For Bigfoot
Zana, the Ape Woman
"Bigfoot" sounds and habits
My new theory on Bigfoots. - Unknown bear
Never heard this take of BF before – Demons
Has this video been proven fake yet ? – Yes
Photo of Bigfoot getting a drink of Water – what ever happened to RoadMaster04?
What 'Finding Bigfoot' has taught me
Australian Yeti
Oliver the "Chimp?"
PGF Breakdown
The Ultimate Patterson film topic
The 6 Ways That Bigfoots Talk To Each Other
Rock Apes
Three Mysterious Creature Encounters – anonymous stories
A Monster-Sized Mistake:When the Eye Deceives
Are Bigfoot Witnesses Really Seeing Reptoids?
Wildfires in Bigfoot Country
Hunting Bigfoot and shooting him Dead - It's been OKed in Texas
Tracking Belief in Bigfoot
Bigfoot: The Implications of Discovery
Stone-throwing Yowie stalks four stockmen
Oxford University project starts serious hunt
Favourite/Best Bigfoot Hoaxes In your opinion
Bigfoot in Idaho
Animal Planet episode seeks Bigfoot
Sasquatch Video Thread - compilation of videos
A quest for all you Bigfoot skeptics
Red Littlefoot Encounter Mirrors Orang Pendek
Panthers, yowie men and a headless roo
Tracking Dogs: Animal Planet 'Finding Bigfoot’
Is the bigfoot
Historical record about Yeti/Almas
Squatch, shadow People & UFOs?
Bigfoot possibly Homoheidelbergensis?
Crazy 1981 Rome Ohio Bigfoot incident
Bigfoot Body Found Conference at 3pm MST – Hoax
Is Bigfoot Possibly an Alien Entity?
Lousiana Rougarou ("bigfoot")
'Yeti finger' DNA test results to be revealed – human
Hunting the Chinese 'Wild Man'
I Killed Bigfoot! - A Conversation With Justin Smeja
Bigfoot Costume
How many fruitless years will it take?
Rock Throwing?
Albert Ostman
Can Escaped Animals Account For Bigfoot?
Does Bigfoot live in the Russian tundra ? – Shenanigans in Russia
Why are there so many versions of Bigfoot?
Long shot theory about Bigfoot – Bigfoot = Alien
Little people in the OR woods
From the mouths of BFRO
Mystery hairy hand terrifies locals – bear
Did a Canadian trapper capture an amazingly clear photo of Bigfoot? – No
students capture images of Bigfoot in Idaho?
Animal Planet TV crew capture yowie audio
Arctic Bigfoot? Balding polar bear?
Man dressed as Sasquatch hit and killed
Anyone catch Survivorman's Top 10 show?
Three separate sightings of yetis in Siberia
Multiple bigfoot creatures in Patterson film
Jane Goodall 'fascinated' by Bigfoot
Sasquatch sighting in Nunavik
The Yahoo 1842
Bigfoot, Witchs, uphill flowing stream, UFO
New Bigfoot video - Hoax
The Jersey Devil, Bigfoot and other cryptids
Hunting Bigfoot
The Patterson/Gimlin bigfoot film re-examined
Bigfoot on wall in cave next to human scull
Bigfoot Vandalizes Winnebago - it speaks for itself
Bigfoot Possibly Caught on Tape – likely hoax
What a surprise! - Melba Ketchum DNA Lab closed down
Reason Bigfooters want to find evidence
New Bigfoot sighting video – Minnesota
New Bigfoot movie
Upswing in Bigfoot activity?
Minnesota Iceman
Tom Biscardi / Ivan Marx Fake Bigfoot Videos
[Merged]Sasquatch in Siberia? Possible Evidence found – Russian shenanigans
Telepathic Bigfoot Research
Provo Bigfoot Breakdown Video
News release from the BFRO!
Bigfoot, Texas
Do you really want Bigfoot to exist?
Unknown “creature” captured on trail camera
Airship to conduct aerial search for Bigfoot
Bigfoot video in Provo, Utah
Bigfoot: real or myth? -- Why? -- Why not?
[Merged]Bigfoot-like creature spotted Tunbridge Wells
Man claims audio proof of Bigfoot's existence
Bigfoot Is Real - Researchers Claim To Have Sequenced Bigfoot DNA
[Merged] Interesting possible Bigfoot pic
Expert view of the Ketchum Bigfoot DNA claim
$10 Million Bigfoot Bounty
Bigfoot Blimp.....
Sasquatch DNA Study Announcement
The Problem with Bigfoot: Part 2
The REAL reason we don't have BF photos
Dr. Melba Ketchum on the radio this morning
Are we closing in on Bigfoot?
Rick dyer tent footage, Dead bigfoot.
why do people still believe in big foot
A Day in the Life of Bigfoot
Bigfoot captured alive?

[Night Walker]

evancj, on 31 December 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

Bigfoot is either a cultural belief, or the border patrol is more effective at keeping bigfoot out of Mexico than keeping Mexicans in Mexico.

Seriously though that map pretty much says it all doesn't it?

If Mexicans are even more stealthy than Bigfoots then perhaps we can use that to our advantage. Finding Bigfoot should hire and send in some Mexicans to get evidence while US Border Patrol is redirected to seal off the area:



Foolproof...

Edited by Night Walker, 31 December 2012 - 05:37 AM.

[Sakari]

Night Walker, on 31 December 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

Bigfoot-related threads on UM in 2012:

Russian Bigfoot/Yeti – promotion to raise money for orphans.................
New Bigfoot Footage: Marble Mountain – likely hoax....................
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Damn NW, how long did that take?.....Nice.

a lot of bf topics in one year....or should I say bs topics.

I wonder how that blimp is going?

[Stardrive]

Sakari, on 31 December 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

I could go out right now and track down a few Elk....My wife on the other hand, would never see them.

I could go out there right now and kill a deer using only the resources available within the environment (2 different techniques). And I don't hunt. But I somehow mysteriously have the knowledge now to do so. Hope I never have to put into practice.

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I am just saying it is not being " witty ", it is having experience, and education on how to do it.

Allow me to clarify. By slow witted I think what I'm really trying to say is, when thrown a curve ball (while out in the forest), it takes a while for us to wrap our head around it. Our deductive reasoning kicks in and the clock starts ticking. Sometimes it's days before an "oh, so that's what that is/was" moment to happen. Experience out there helps to resolve some of the issues quickly, I'll agree on that. But what was it like before that experience was gained?

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Take evancj for example. He can go out and get magnificent wildlife pictures at anytime, because he has experience doing it. Just as you would if you made it a hobby of yours.

evancj?? who is that? Oh, you mean the desktop wallpaper guy. J/K evan Yeah, he's good. Correction, real dam good.

That reminds of a story about evan and I. About a year or 2 ago we were debating and he mentioned how he would go out bushwacking and squatchin by himself. I went all to hell and started preaching to him about the dangers of doing that and so on and so forth. So what do you think I went and did? That is correct, I got the idea to drive out an old fire road and do some squatchin of my own, and on my own. I drove about 4 miles in to where the old growth hemlocks were, parked the rustbucket and with camera in hand set out to see what I could find. After a couple hours out there pokin around I went back to my car. As I approached my car I heard a very loud whistle sound coming from the area where I had just been. I was like "holy cow, what kind of bird is that!?. As I was driving away it hit me like a ton of bricks. It was a mountain lion kit calling for mamma. I apologize evan, I shot off at the mouth and turned right around and did the same thing I advised you not to do. And it had the potential to cost me my life.

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I know one thing, if I were lost i the woods and had to survive on vegetation, I would have a very good chance of dying. I know little to nothing of what is safe to eat.

I looked into that once and discovered a money racket. You have to buy a book on the edible vegatation. No amount of Googling is going to reveal that information.  Yeah, I'd die to, man cannot live on deer alone but I did try it with beer in my younger days.

[Stardrive]

JGirl, on 31 December 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

*hands stardrive a cupcake

[greedily snaps cupcake out of JGirls hand] Thanks!

[QuiteContrary]

Night Walker, on 31 December 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

Bigfoot-related threads on UM in 2012:

Russian Bigfoot/Yeti – promotion to raise money for orphans
New Bigfoot Footage: Marble Mountain – likely hoax
Searching for bigfoot among the redwoods – about Bigfooters
*snip*

That's why I'm here. Love it! Nonbelievers keep the myth alive as well.

[Sakari]

Stardrive, on 31 December 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

That reminds of a story about evan and I. About a year or 2 ago we were debating and he mentioned how he would go out bushwacking and squatchin by himself. I went all to hell and started preaching to him about the dangers of doing that and so on and so forth. So what do you think I went and did? That is correct, I got the idea to drive out an old fire road and do some squatchin of my own, and on my own. I drove about 4 miles in to where the old growth hemlocks were, parked the rustbucket and with camera in hand set out to see what I could find. After a couple hours out there pokin around I went back to my car. As I approached my car I heard a very loud whistle sound coming from the area where I had just been. I was like "holy cow, what kind of bird is that!?. As I was driving away it hit me like a ton of bricks. It was a mountain lion kit calling for mamma. I apologize evan, I shot off at the mouth and turned right around and did the same thing I advised you not to do. And it had the potential to cost me my life.

That would not be a good feeling at all......Glad you were ok, and also glad you went out and did something you wanted to do.

I had a chukar hunt where I was walking a ledge ( Nevada, cliffs about 10 feet above my head as I walked ). I made a big circle around the mountain top, on my second pass I saw large paw prints in the sand where I had walked a hour before....I took 3 shots in the air and walked to truck.

Another, bow hunting, sleeping in the back of my blazer with the top off. When I got up in the morning, bear prints all around camp, including below my tail gate.

I stopped hunting years ago, other then occasional upland bird, but I still go out and explore. I enjoy it out there. I should go more, and actually take a camera with me.


Anyway, why do people still believe in Bigfoot?....Especially with the latest lies and hoax's recently.

[Stardrive]

Sakari, on 31 December 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Anyway, why do people still believe in Bigfoot?....Especially with the latest lies and hoax's recently.

I don't buy into disinformation campaigns, and honestly I despise conspiracy theories. My Dad made sure of that.

When I began my quest into this I went into it with an open yet skeptical mind. The rational part of the mind doesn't take to mental train wrecks very well I eventually found out.

But as far as why I think there could be a real, and undocumented by science, flesh and blood creature is because of what I personally experienced, touched, and studied myself first hand. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. I don't have a body of one of them to offer up for study so nit pickin and chicken scrathin around about evidence or what I found would serve no usefull purpose. But the experience wasn't a total bust, I did manage to walk away with a tidbit of knowledge about our primative past and learned some interesting things about mother nature.

Happy New Year everyone !!!!

[scowl]

Stardrive, on 31 December 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

I don't buy into disinformation campaigns, and honestly I despise conspiracy theories. My Dad made sure of that.

There's a reason why the Bigfoot "disinformation campaign" is so successful: there's is no new information on Bigfoot.

I can understand people believing in fairies since they're small, but I don't understand people who believe that a nine foot bipedal creature which has to eat tons of food is stomping around our forests undetected.

[scowl]

Sakari, on 30 December 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Took a while....Did not get a Deer with a bow for my first 5 years of bow hunting. Had plenty of shots, just nothing inside 50 yards. I wish I had taken a camera with me every time though.

I hit a deer with my car once. Who needs bows and guns?

[evancj]

Back in my hunting days I was watching a group of deer right before sun rise, I could barely make out a very nice buck in the group but wanted some better light before I took it down. Unfortunately they moved off into a forested area before I had my chance. I wanted to track them to their bedding grounds so I made my way to where I last saw them, as I bent down to look for sign, I heard a commotion in a thick stand of scrub oak about 30 meters behind me. I whorled around just in time to see a mountain lion break though the tree line. He came to a screeching halt about 20 meters from me, I was ready to shoot him but he just stood there looking at me. I had enough time to see he was a young one with fading spots. We looked at each other for what seemed like along time then turned around and bounded back into the brush. I walked back to my dad's land cruiser and went to a different location.

Here's the thing, I grew up in the middle of nowhere in the great basin (Sakari knows the place) there was nothing to do but hunt fish trap and observe nature. To the untrained eye the great basin it looks like a desolate and godforsaken wasteland. But if you take the time to actually look, study and observe you will find that it is chocked full of life. I posted some photos yesterday in the trial camera thread that where taken at the eastern edge of the great basin.

I spent the majority of my adult life in the military and spent much of my time in very remote and dangerous places doing what I did growing up, watching and observing the habits of targets of interest. Every living thing is a creature of habit, and being a successful out doors person is nothing than watching, observing, and learning the habits and environmental requirements of those things that you would like to kill, and eat (photograph in my case).

[Sakari]

evancj, on 31 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Back in my hunting days I was watching a group of deer right before sun rise, I could barely make out a very nice buck in the group but wanted some better light before I took it down. Unfortunately they moved off into a forested area before I had my chance. I wanted to track them to their bedding grounds so I made my way to where I last saw them, as I bent down to look for sign, I heard a commotion in a thick stand of scrub oak about 30 meters behind me. I whorled around just in time to see a mountain lion break though the tree line. He came to a screeching halt about 20 meters from me, I was ready to shoot him but he just stood there looking at me. I had enough time to see he was a young one with fading spots. We looked at each other for what seemed like along time then turned around and bounded back into the brush. I walked back to my dad's land cruiser and went to a different location.

Here's the thing, I grew up in the middle of nowhere in the great basin (Sakari knows the place) there was nothing to do but hunt fish trap and observe nature. To the untrained eye the great basin it looks like a desolate and godforsaken wasteland. But if you take the time to actually look, study and observe you will find that it is chocked full of life. I posted some photos yesterday in the trial camera thread that where taken at the eastern edge of the great basin.

I spent the majority of my adult life in the military and spent much of my time in very remote and dangerous places doing what I did growing up, watching and observing the habits of targets of interest. Every living thing is a creature of habit, and being a successful out doors person is nothing than watching, observing, and learning the habits and environmental requirements of those things that you would like to kill, and eat (photograph in my case).

We need to get together some time and swap stories




One of my favorite places in that area......








Little High Rock Canyon, and surrounding area....Picture does not do it justice......Bighorn sheep, Chukar, Wild Horses.....You name it. Best Chukar hunting on the planet...Tons of history also.....





Anyway, back on topic....sorry, brought back memories.

Edited by Sakari, 31 December 2012 - 06:57 PM.

[Stardrive]

scowl, on 31 December 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

There's a reason why the Bigfoot "disinformation campaign" is so successful: there's is no new information on Bigfoot.

Calling them successful is news to me. Don't tell me you......  never mind. There is no new news on bf and more than likely never will be.

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I can understand people believing in fairies since they're small, but I don't understand people who believe that a nine foot bipedal creature which has to eat tons of food is stomping around our forests undetected.

If you're interested in the subject, get out there and look for yourself. If you feel it would be a fruitless venture, with nothing to gain, then I woundn't bother.

[scowl]

Stardrive, on 31 December 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Calling them successful is news to me. Don't tell me you......  never mind. There is no new news on bf and more than likely never will be.

So it's not news to you.

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If you're interested in the subject, get out there and look for yourself. If you feel it would be a fruitless venture, with nothing to gain, then I woundn't bother.

There are many other reasons to go camping and hiking in forests. There is lots of incredible wildlife and beautiful scenery out there. You probably won't see Bigfoot but you won't be disappointed.