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[almeida1]

Hello,

Had the strangest of days, so i'm sat on reception at my girlfriends clinic and in walks this sikh guy with a turban shows me his card and says that he's a palm reader etc and can tell my future etc, so i had it read and to my amazement he was so accurate, there was no way he could of known the information that he gave me about my past current situation illness in my family, parents divorced etc and the most shocking thing no way he could of known that someone close to me suffers from bad backs and long period problems etc.

so how do they do it ?

because i can't see the scam in this one.

[fran123]

My mother told me of an incident that happened with my grandmother. A gypsy woman came to the door (this was the 1940's) and asked if she wanted to buy something. She did and this woman also asked her if she'd  like her fortune told and she agreed to do so, I can't remember if it was with cards, palm reading or whatever, sorry. The woman suddenly said she was unable to do a reading at that time, apologised and left. Some months later the woman returned and my grandmother told her that since her last visit her husband had died. The gypsy woman then told her that the reason she had not done the reading on her last visit was because she foresaw the death of her husband and obviously could not tell her. Now how did she know that? My grandfather had been in good health, in his 50's with no underlying problems, he just died very suddenly yet this woman, a complete stranger, knew somehow he was going to die. Wierd.

[Super-Fly]

fran123, on 20 July 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

The woman suddenly said she was unable to do a reading at that time, apologised and left. Some months later the woman returned and my grandmother told her that since her last visit her husband had died. The gypsy woman then told her that the reason she had not done the reading on her last visit was because she foresaw the death of her husband

Convenient on the part of the gypsy.

Thanks,

[Space_Jockey]

almeida1, on 20 July 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Hello,

Had the strangest of days, so i'm sat on reception at my girlfriends clinic and in walks this sikh guy with a turban shows me his card and says that he's a palm reader etc and can tell my future etc, so i had it read and to my amazement he was so accurate, there was no way he could of known the information that he gave me about my past current situation illness in my family, parents divorced etc and the most shocking thing no way he could of known that someone close to me suffers from bad backs and long period problems etc.

so how do they do it ?

because i can't see the scam in this one.

It's not like the guy could just look at you, judging by your age and the fact that everybody has 'problems' and guess what problems people at that age usually have, it's also not like back problems are quite common, So it must be real.

[almeida1]

not these kind of problems trust me lol no way would he have known or even guessed that no chance. What he also did was write something on some paper screw it up and tell u to hold it in your palm tightly he then asked what your ambitions are for the future so i went onto say what they were he wrote this on seperate piece of paper and he came up with a list of 3 numbers which i had to cross 2 off leaving one remaining number, he then does his calculations etc and low and behold my ambitions were written on that scrunched up piece of paper before i had even spoke a word of it ? and this he got right twice with me and my mrs so hows that possible ?

he knew that my mother and father had split up which is very unusual for an indian couple that were married in the 70s and that i failed to complete my education due to the split.

He also knew i liked to make the house look nice and like doing diy etc.

Edited by almeida1, 20 July 2012 - 08:58 PM.

[Simbi Laveau]

The armenians do coffee ground readings . It's handed down from generation to generation .Some Arabs do it as well .
We knew a little old Armenian woman that did it.
I've had psychic readings,and tarot readings,blah blah .None were good. This coffee ground reader,was amazing.
Like 85% of everything she ever told us,would come true.
She ended up being close to my mom .They would go yard sale thrifting together .

[markdohle]

almeida1, on 20 July 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Hello,

Had the strangest of days, so i'm sat on reception at my girlfriends clinic and in walks this sikh guy with a turban shows me his card and says that he's a palm reader etc and can tell my future etc, so i had it read and to my amazement he was so accurate, there was no way he could of known the information that he gave me about my past current situation illness in my family, parents divorced etc and the most shocking thing no way he could of known that someone close to me suffers from bad backs and long period problems etc.

so how do they do it ?

because i can't see the scam in this one.

Perhaps on an unconscious level we know more than we understand.  For years I used Tarot as an aid for inner reflection and growth and found it helpful.  I did have an experience with a man that was not very pleasant.  He found out that I used the tarot and asked me for a reading.  I told him no, I did not use the cards for that kind of thing.  Finally to put him off I said yes against my better judgment.  

So I threw the spread and something jumped out at me about him being stalked, he said yes, then I told him about the women, but then I saw that he was the cause of all that had happened.  The girl’s friends were trying to scare him off because he was in fact stalking her.  I told him that he needed to stop.  He agreed with all I told him, and I became depressed for a week, something that does not happen to me.  To this day I don't understand what happened, unless things like tarot do upon up the unconscious between one person and another.  Like I said, I found the cards and symbols useful for self introspection, prayer and inner healing and a growth in self knowledge, but reading for others a waste of time.  I don't use the cards anymore, they just lost their appeal after 25 years, did not need them.  Then I started writing a few years later....perhaps they are connected in some way.  Writing does flow from the unconscious I believe and that is why I often find writing healing.

[Beany]

My husband had a friend from India who known an astrologist that wrote 3 pages of single spaced typing about my husband. One of the obscure pieces of information is that my husband's father would have an accident involving a car and a boat, which did happen. He was backing his car up and ran into a trailered boat. What're the odds?

[SuddenPsychic]

markdohle, on 20 July 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Perhaps on an unconscious level we know more than we understand.  For years I used Tarot as an aid for inner reflection and growth and found it helpful.  I did have an experience with a man that was not very pleasant.  He found out that I used the tarot and asked me for a reading.  I told him no, I did not use the cards for that kind of thing.  Finally to put him off I said yes against my better judgment.  

So I threw the spread and something jumped out at me about him being stalked, he said yes, then I told him about the women, but then I saw that he was the cause of all that had happened.  The girl’s friends were trying to scare him off because he was in fact stalking her.  I told him that he needed to stop.  He agreed with all I told him, and I became depressed for a week, something that does not happen to me.  To this day I don't understand what happened, unless things like tarot do upon up the unconscious between one person and another.  Like I said, I found the cards and symbols useful for self introspection, prayer and inner healing and a growth in self knowledge, but reading for others a waste of time.  I don't use the cards anymore, they just lost their appeal after 25 years, did not need them.  Then I started writing a few years later....perhaps they are connected in some way.  Writing does flow from the unconscious I believe and that is why I often find writing healing.

Sounds like you weren't protected and he's a psychic vampire. He went nom-nom on your energy just like he did to the woman he was stalking.  He's weak and doesn't know how to get his needs met so he just takes psychic energy but doesn't do anything but slurp it up and $*i7 it out.  The cards opened up an energetic conduit between you AND you were at close range. I don't know him so it's easy to feel kind of sad for him from a higher perspective - he doesn't know how to bring back to life the dead parts inside. We all do it sometime in our lives, but the poor guy is really sick.  Woe unto his stalkees.  When I figure out someone's been slurping off me, though, there is no pity. I get hella pissed.

[markdohle]

SuddenPsychic, on 21 July 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

Sounds like you weren't protected and he's a psychic vampire. He went nom-nom on your energy just like he did to the woman he was stalking.  He's weak and doesn't know how to get his needs met so he just takes psychic energy but doesn't do anything but slurp it up and $*i7 it out.  The cards opened up an energetic conduit between you AND you were at close range. I don't know him so it's easy to feel kind of sad for him from a higher perspective - he doesn't know how to bring back to life the dead parts inside. We all do it sometime in our lives, but the poor guy is really sick.  Woe unto his stalkees.  When I figure out someone's been slurping off me, though, there is no pity. I get hella pissed.

I thought tha, you said it very well.  It happened about 20 years ago.  LIke I said I did not do readings, well a couple of more times and all people wanted me to do was to tell their future, or tell them what to do.  When I tried to use the cards to use as a take off point for dialogue about their own innards they would not go with that.  So I did three readings over a 25 year period and regreted doing it....

Peace
mark

[The world needs you]

markdohle, on 20 July 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Perhaps on an unconscious level we know more than we understand.  For years I used Tarot as an aid for inner reflection and growth and found it helpful.  I did have an experience with a man that was not very pleasant.  He found out that I used the tarot and asked me for a reading.  I told him no, I did not use the cards for that kind of thing.  Finally to put him off I said yes against my better judgment.  

So I threw the spread and something jumped out at me about him being stalked, he said yes, then I told him about the women, but then I saw that he was the cause of all that had happened.  The girl’s friends were trying to scare him off because he was in fact stalking her.  I told him that he needed to stop.  He agreed with all I told him, and I became depressed for a week, something that does not happen to me.  To this day I don't understand what happened, unless things like tarot do upon up the unconscious between one person and another.  Like I said, I found the cards and symbols useful for self introspection, prayer and inner healing and a growth in self knowledge, but reading for others a waste of time.  I don't use the cards anymore, they just lost their appeal after 25 years, did not need them.  Then I started writing a few years later....perhaps they are connected in some way.  Writing does flow from the unconscious I believe and that is why I often find writing healing.

What an awesome post, did not know you did cards (before). I never tried my hand but picked up a New Age (non-tarot) deck because it had pretty images on them. Maybe one day I'll lay them out.

Your negative experience seems a mystery to me and SuddenPsychic's explanation does not completely satisfy. I could not offer a better explanation but something did click with me but am unsure why. The following is a snippet from an article and it feels like this part of that article could be related somehow. Keep in mind that for me marriage is the epitome of relationships, of connection. So every relationship uses the same processes, even weak relationships between those you infrequently come into contact with, but the processes are in a weaker, less intimate form.

So while the following about mind-mapping was stated about marriage I wonder if the same process of mind-mapping put you on his level. So instead of him taking your energy as a psychic vampire perhaps you actually took on his energy, a week in the life of that man. Who knows maybe he got a bit of you in the process and felt better for a week? Maybe it doesn't apply but I've also read that just by being in the same room as someone we take on their same blood pressure momentarily.

To me maybe that is why some are so intuitive about others, they know what others are feeling, not because they are good at detecting what is in others but because they are good at going within themselves and understanding on some level, even unconsciously, that if I am suddenly feeling anxious when so-and-so walked into the room maybe they are anxious. Maybe this is how authentic psychics operate.

One more item I have thought of is that in church we were told to always be careful who you lay your hands on in that type of prayer where laying of the hands is done because you can become spiritually contaminated. That explanation no longer satisfies me. Still I remain puzzled at your encounter. Now the snippet about mind-mapping.

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"Couples are always complaining that they don't communicate," Schnarch says, "but that's not true." Often, they grasp the dynamic quite well. "We take it as an article of faith that bad behavior in troubled relationships stems primarily from good intentions gone wrong." Schnarch calls this "the big lie." People usually know the harm they're doing and do it intentionally.

Not only are most people aware of the mind games they perpetrate, they're aware that their partner is aware that they're aware, a dynamic Schnarch calls "mind-mapping," after the brain's ability to make a mental map of how another mind works. A man sees an overweight woman on the street and comments disparagingly on her girth to his wife, then insists he couldn't know his wife, at virtually the same weight, would feel wounded. The next day the woman goes on at length about the success of her old friend the investment banker despite the fact that her husband has just lost his job. At some level they both know she is returning the pain. The insidious nature of such exchanges could be one of the best-kept secrets in marriage.

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Edited by Lookitisoneofthosepeople, 21 July 2012 - 01:13 PM.

[Uncle Pockets]

Man has no knowledge of the unseen. No reason to go to these people as they can do nothing for you.

[Darkwind]

This is funny,  my neighbor was showing me his new license to operate as a psychic when the conversation turn to the weather and he ask me if I thought it would rain. I said how would I know you're the psychic.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Uncle Pockets, on 22 July 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

Man has no knowledge of the unseen

Says a Muslim.

[Simbi Laveau]

Well in India,there's a form of Astrology ,that's different from the kind most westerners use.
You can go to an ashram,and for a small fee,a priest will do your astrological chart .
If there's an "affliction" in your birth chart,blocking thing in your life,they tell you how to overcome it.
They do it at the Ganesh ashram I go to ,but I've never had mine done.